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Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.13 07:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: The Mittani
yo we'll discuss it at the Q&A, there's not much to say besides 'looks like a structural failure at the corporate level and i guess they hired some incompetent dudes on the forums team, welp good luck fixing the security breach'.
what would you like to see, mr "sees no necessity"?
Exactly this "We're gathering information and will address this at the Q&A".
Looks like CCP's old pattern:
"We are already working on it but there is nothing to tell now. So what do you expect us to say?"
"Uhm, maybe that you actually are working on it, because you didn't even say that?"
"Well, you do know it now. Happy?"
Seems like this CSM already adopted that very quickly.
Grats?
The CSM: now responsible for CCP QA process--even for stuff created and tested before they were elected!
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Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.13 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga
The CSM is not responsible for any at all
(maybe I can find my Goon - English dictionary and find out you actually meant something else)
But you are right, they shouldn't say anything about it at all.
I wonder why they want to discuss it at the Q&A then...
I fail to see what you expect them to do, or what you think they can do. Obviously "wow, this is a pretty bad failure on the coding team; maybe we need better QA" is a statement that CCP themselves have already said. The CSM can't exactly add to that besides expressing their own disappointment at CCP's failure.
I mean, QA has been a sore spot for CCP for years. This shouldn't surprise anyone. I have a feeling it'll be slipped into the CSM Summit though under the topic heading of "why **** hasn't gotten implemented yet."
Expecting the CSM to excoriate CCP for a security failure that CCP has already rolled back a new feature over--which is friggen unprecedented for them, honestly--is overreacting and akin to throwing a tantrum over a trivial issue. Righteous indignation and outrage can be had elsewhere for beter reasons.
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Fuujin
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.04.14 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga
Did you just give an example of what the CSM could do with the situation while wondering what I could expect them to do?
So is that really clever on your part (for thinking the CSM might ask CCP face-to-face why this happened, given the fact they are the only group that gets to talk to CCP face-to-face on a regular basis) or not (for not realizing people might expect them to ask CCP face-to-face why this happened, given the fact they are the only group that gets to talk to CCP face-to-face on a regular basis)?
Not to get too far off the point, but your initial complaint was that there wasn't some useless post impotently raging about the issue.
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