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Mr Rive
Rens 911
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2011.04.14 10:57:00 -
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Dont need to hear some scrubby commentator, would like to watch the matches though
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.14 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 14/04/2011 11:05:25
Would be awesome, but I think CCP doesn't want to spend the moneys :[
Edit; I hope pre-qualifiers will at least be on youtube ?
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.14 13:16:00 -
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I would like to see these as well, maybe those who did not make the commentator cut can do a livestream/Justin.tv commentary as the matches progress.
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Chairman MeowMix
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Posted - 2011.04.14 14:26:00 -
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We'd love this, even if its just some random person giving out the winners.
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Kashimir
Otoko no Baito
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Posted - 2011.04.14 15:08:00 -
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Umm, wait. Did I miss something? Is there something indicating that they would not be uploaded to YouTube afterwards as in past tournaments?
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.04.15 22:32:00 -
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seconding this desire. Don't care about commentators, but would really like to watch the prelims.
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ookke
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.04.24 16:51:00 -
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+1 for this, please allow a volunteer to record them atleast so we get them on Youtube afterwards. Shouldn't cost you anything, just give him/her one of those devhax camera ships for the weekend or whatever.
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IceGuerilla
Amarr
Poseidon's Wingmen
Perihelion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.04.24 17:40:00 -
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+1 (Million) |
aetherguy881
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.25 04:31:00 -
[9]
Re-watching AT7 with anticipation.
Please?
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EntroX
Elements of Harmony
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Posted - 2011.04.27 14:22:00 -
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how about you guys let community sites (hi ccp, you've got mail~) stream and comment on the matches?, wont cost you a dime vOv
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Kashimir
Otoko no Baito
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Posted - 2011.04.27 16:21:00 -
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While having the same expert team commenting on the preliminaries has been a great advantage in the past, as the experts got a chance to make themselves feel comfortable at commentating before the 'real deal', it can not be stressed enough how important it is for the viewers to at least get to see the plain video footage of the matches and hopefully before the studio weekend.
It kind of ruins one aspect of the tournament as my biggest enjoyment of the tournament is to watch how the teams and setups evolve overtime and I find it hard to believe I'm the only one who wouldn't like the fact that there were deciding fights fought, where some teams proved their worth, in the shadows.
But really, isn't this tournament partly about the spectacle. If you're going through all the effort to plan and organize the preliminaries I think it's a huge waste of time, effort and space minerals to not make the final push to deliver the greatness to the loving audience :)
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Exordium8
Minmatar
Not a Shell Corp
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Posted - 2011.04.28 01:35:00 -
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/signed
FFS CCP, is it really that hard?
I'm sure the community would stream them.
No work for you, benefit for us.
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Pillage, then burn.
Everything is air-droppable at least once.
There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.04.28 07:51:00 -
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Lets try make sure each fight is frapsed atleast , then try put it on a u tube chanel or something ....
anyone have the time if they cant be streamed? and if no one does then it makes our complaining look weeker, as i'm also one who would love to see this.... sniff ...
still might have to add some CCP names to the wanted frozen corpse pile though just for kicks and giggles :)
I still have some old bob fc corpses for display when walk in stations are go... yarhh.
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Micheal Stackpole
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Posted - 2011.04.28 17:11:00 -
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I have commented on this in another thread.
I believe CCP knows these 5 man rounds are going to be crap, and they are trying to hide how badly they bungled this by not showing these rounds at all.
They have gone on record as saying they will not be live televised, OR uploaded to youtube afterwards. There will be no record of these except perhaps some internet radio commentary.
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The Great Leader
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Posted - 2011.04.29 17:33:00 -
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No commentators needed, at the very least please Youtube them.
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Your Sisters
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Posted - 2011.05.02 07:24:00 -
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This seems like a total PR mistake. One of the main purposes of AT is to boost people interest in EVE.
Why we even have qualifiers if no broadcast is doneā. What is the advantage of that? There is going to be effort in organising from both sides (CCP and players) and that effort will be virtually unnoticed. Even in the same Allianceā it seems ridiculous that you have to relay on other people story to find out what happened.
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Versuvius Marii
Ghosts of CKSSA
Joined Brotherhood
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Posted - 2011.05.04 01:31:00 -
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Signed. You know you wanna do this, CCP. Make it happen, and while you're at it you can let Uncle Soundwave tell us how awesome and exciting everything is every interval.
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Motty 007
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.05.09 20:59:00 -
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Come on CCP what are the blocks stopping you from frapsing and dumping on Youtube ???? These will be golden as the 1st time youve ran it like this.
There is enough support I would bet there is a neutral pilot who could fraps it if you would allow them to.
Motty
excarebear
expiwate
exhausted
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Rikki Retardo
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Posted - 2011.05.13 22:37:00 -
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If only there was a way to record video and put it on a network of computers where interested people can view it from around the world.
Come On. Put down the Dust and concentrate !
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Hermy Nator
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Posted - 2011.05.20 12:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Mr Rive
Dont need to hear some scrubby commentator, would like to watch the matches though
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salty Milk
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Posted - 2011.05.20 13:07:00 -
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you know if the trollgods propel dark taboo to at9 victory and we dont get to see them at the 5 man matches i will not be very forgiving at all capeesh?
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Terios Corvalis
Gallente
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.05.20 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Terios Corvalis on 20/05/2011 13:17:01
CCP should have done a real pre-qualifier round for every alliance who wants to enter, even without broadcasting. And no need for auction. The extra entry fee would have covered the lost auction slot's cost.
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2011.05.21 02:56:00 -
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After seeing all the utterly terrible alliances who got into AT (and the good pvp alliances that missed out) I'm not really fussed that CCP won't be broadcasting the qualifiers.
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Guru Man
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Posted - 2011.05.24 07:19:00 -
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So this weekend is there any chance to follow the tourney if I am not participating?
Any eve radio station, in game channel or anything ?
No promise of youtube later posting?
Is it forbidden for people involved to fraps the games and then post them? And if not how can we convince more teams to do it, shaming CCP for their lack of professionalism?
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IceGuerilla
Amarr
Poseidon's Wingmen
Perihelion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.24 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Guru Man
So this weekend is there any chance to follow the tourney if I am not participating?
Any eve radio station, in game channel or anything ?
No promise of youtube later posting?
Is it forbidden for people involved to fraps the games and then post them? And if not how can we convince more teams to do it, shaming CCP for their lack of professionalism?
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Guru Man
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Posted - 2011.05.24 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: IceGuerilla
Originally by: Guru Man
So this weekend is there any chance to follow the tourney if I am not participating?
Any eve radio station, in game channel or anything ?
No promise of youtube later posting?
Is it forbidden for people involved to fraps the games and then post them? And if not how can we convince more teams to do it, shaming CCP for their lack of professionalism?
Just check the killboards after.
What about ISD...last time they had a nice page with statistics and short game description... Personally I would appreciate something similar this year.
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Mercurial Blood
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.05.26 06:12:00 -
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Edited by: Mercurial Blood on 26/05/2011 06:13:54
There are a tonne of different dynamics within the 5v5 setups, and it gives an opportunity to see a uniquely different side of the tournament.
I understand that CCP has this whole idea of making a huge production of the alliance tournament, however, it would take relatively few man-hours for GM to simply lock up all ships on grid in the tournament fashion for each fight and record that. No major camera work would be required, and no commentating is necessary. Uploading videos to youtube is free, and there would be almost no editing required as there is no second studio feed to switch to, etc.
I really cannot see doing this consuming a large amount of time/resources, and it would do well to promote the alliance tournament, building up to the livecasts. What I mean to say is, compared to what is probably a huge expenditure for the EVE TV broadcasts (full studio crew, livestream, lighting/filming professionals, flights and accommodations for announcers, etc), paying one employee for what would amount to probably ~40 man hours of work is not that much, considering the amount of footage it would give to the community.
Also, if you want to go pro tier low cost filming, organize for some of your chosen announcers to be present via THE INTERNET and perhaps record their commentation over VOIP. But I'd like to stress that I'd be more than happy with a simple video recording.
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Laminar Septimar
Gallente
German Kings
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.05.27 19:32:00 -
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+1 to the tread above
Why not frapsing the Matches anyway while you're on grid?
Hoepfully the Community will get some sort of AAR, otherwise some of your costumers get very annoyed
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Canuk EroSennin
Gallente
Public Security Section Nine
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Posted - 2011.05.27 20:51:00 -
[29]
X SIGNED as well
it doent have to be live but to have someone who can fraps it and upload the prequalifiers onto youtube would be so awesome!!! CCP we would love you long time....come on??? HAPPY ENDING?
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Random Womble
Minmatar
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
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Posted - 2011.05.27 23:35:00 -
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It probably worth pointing out that from the last 2 tournaments on YouTube the fights on the first 4 days (which were the equivalent of the 5 v 5 fights) have significantly more views than those on the last 2 days with 1 or 2 exceptions.
No doubt there are a number of factors behind that but it is quite telling.
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ISD Serathu Ashk
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2011.05.28 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Guru Man
What about ISD...last time they had a nice page with statistics and short game description... Personally I would appreciate something similar this year.
http://at.eve-ic.net/
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Rikki Retardo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 04:13:00 -
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 I guess i will have to dust off the fraps and record our fight myself.
I was looking forward to some quality camera work but my camera skills are fail.
Thanks for listening to your customers guys 
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IceGuerilla
Amarr
Poseidon's Wingmen
Perihelion Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rikki ******o
Thanks for listening to your customers guys
That's because all of those stupid customers were whining about the banning rule instead of the 5v5 matches not being televised. Congrats, you got what you wanted...
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 11:25:00 -
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I want exploding battlebadgers
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Theophaga Asp
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Posted - 2011.05.28 12:37:00 -
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I don't know why it takes more than a few minutes to get something live-streamed uploaded to youtube, it's an automatable process.
But not live-streaming the qualifiers is more annoying that "stupid".
Having mini (5 man, ten minute) qualifiers is stupid. They should call them "non-qualifiers" since they won't tell us much about the ten man teams. The reason to make them small is to make them short and more tv-able...and they aren't streaming them.
The banning rule was ultra-stupid, it had to go first. I guess CCP is suggesting that the right way to conduct space warfare is to get CCP to ban one of the opposing alliance's key ships at a critical moment. Maybe a Titan?
I've heard about Eve TV for years, I've never watched it. You don't get any hits on evelopedia and it's nowhere on eveonline.com. Allegedly it's for pay, but free for AT? There's that eve-online.TV site that says only "server unavailable"...
I'm just happy there's a tournament, even if the first 2^N matches will be useless. Except I can't be happy about what I can't see.
CCP, here's some free advice: livestream the qualifiers and youtube the finals. That way I can be happy from May 28th until whenever-the-hell, instead of happy from whenever-the-hell-you-get-it-done until June 19th. More happy!
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Havak Kouvo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 14:24:00 -
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would creating a justin.tv account be so hard? I mean, you get one or two guys over skype to commentate and have a random guy back at CCP moving the camera around. I'd bet you'd get a number of viewers from both EVE and out of EVE if you posted their.
Best part, HD streaming!
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Cunane Jeran
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.28 14:36:00 -
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I love watching sporting events where the big names can be out before you get a chance to HEAR them in action let alone see them.
I personally can't wait to see the statitics that mean bugger all without context.
Or for a 140 character message about a hero incursus.
Fail.
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Ugleb
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2011.05.28 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ugleb on 28/05/2011 14:45:52
Originally by: Cunane Jeran
I love watching sporting events where the big names can be out before you get a chance to HEAR them in action let alone see them.
I personally can't wait to see the statitics that mean bugger all without context.
Or for a 140 character message about a hero incursus.
Fail.
Indeed. Half the alliances will have been and gone we see or hear our first match.
Tbh it hadn't occured to me until a couple of days ago that CCP had not said anything about audio coverage of the qualifiers.
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 14:58:00 -
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Quote:
EVETournament EVE Online
Day one of AT9 qualifying starts in 30 minutes. Follow all of the action online! #at9 #eveonline http://at.eve-ic.net/
Is this a joke?
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Rikki Retardo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:13:00 -
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Thank you Goons for your prompt upload of your first round match.
It is a sad day when Goons care more about the eve comunity than ccp.
Once again a big thanks to Goons and i hope this is an example for the rest of the competing teams. Get those vids up win or lose guys!
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Rikki Retardo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:41:00 -
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I am ashamed that i got the facts wrong.
My thanks go out to WI not goons.
I was so excited to see video i didn`t fact check.
so please replace goons with WI in my previous post.
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 20:56:00 -
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Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
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Wardeneo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Wardeneo on 28/05/2011 21:00:58
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 14/04/2011 11:05:25
Would be awesome, but I think CCP doesn't want to spend the moneys :[
Edit; I hope pre-qualifiers will at least be on youtube ?
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
FRAPS DONT COST **** LOL!!!!! ccp some1 on ur payroll can fraps it ^^ surely ^^ :)
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:02:00 -
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It's ok, another week developing standing in stations is a much better reward than properly celebrating the PVP which used to be the core of Eve Online.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
Um...Google AdSense with youtube?
Justin.tv/own3d with commercials?
NASL, Day[9], Total Biscuit, TLO, Machinema(SeaNanners to Ken Burton), Red vs Blue, Yogscast, HudskyStarcraft, HDstarcraft and may more can do it for a profit. There is quite litterally nothing standing in your way to broadcast them.
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Random Womble
Minmatar
Emo Rangers
Electric Monkey Overlords
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Random Womble on 28/05/2011 21:06:39
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
However you don't need any cash to let the community radio stations do commentary and if they then chose to stream things as well even better. Its not like they would even need an altered character or client since with 5v5 anyone with the right skills can lock both sides up.
The fact that some players have streamed a few fights for free should make you ashamed that you are not willing to try and find a solution.
Edit: Out of interest what you you do if the IC guys and girls started streaming the matches they were watching and doing reports on?
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Cyfrowy Polsat
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cyfrowy Polsat on 28/05/2011 21:20:42
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
Well Soundwave, that seems like a pretty crappy tradeoff for the players/audience. It's nothing personal you know, but for the so-called "Alliance Tournament" I'd like to see THE TOURNAMENT, not your or your colleagues' fake smiles. If you want to make this into a talk show - by all means, do so, but do not sacrifice this rare content (the fights themselves) in order to achieve this!
And one more thing, you've probably heard about something called "Champions League", I know this is not the same...league...but imagine what would happen if you told Manchester United fans "You know what? We'll not show the group stage matches, because they're unimportant (quote - CCP Loxy), but instead give you more quality in-studio commentary and analysis". Of course Eve-O players won't come to your place with baseball bats...
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ISD Serathu Ashk
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Random Womble
Edit: Out of interest what you you do if the IC guys and girls started streaming the matches they were watching and doing reports on?
Just to be clear - this isn't within IC's remit and we have no plans to do it.
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Daneel Trevize
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:28:00 -
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
Please. No more trolling. Even players can make streams and I don't believe any of them are paying for them.
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dinta Zembo
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Sorry guys, no video is the tradeoff for two full studio weekends. Not much we can do about it, unless I find a way to poop either gold or pure cash.
Please. No more trolling. Even players can make streams and I don't believe any of them are paying for them.
Yeah, a player probably doesn't have restrictions such as "budgets" and "quality". You'll get them for the studio weekends.
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Yeah, a player probably doesn't have restrictions such as "budgets" and "quality". You'll get them for the studio weekends.
People seem to prefer the crappy quality over no coverage at all. I know it's important to make eve look all shiny and cool but skipping half the tournament just won't cut it
Better be some really good studio weekends 
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Daneel Trevize
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 28/05/2011 22:05:15
The person who made these 'budget' and 'quality' restrictions does not seem to understand they'd make up the PR difference in quantity if you'd just had thousands of people relinking and commenting on tens of fights for many hours this evening, and tomorrow, and the same again next week.
I mean, all the other recent & planned **** seems to be cobbled together to appeal to the masses asap with no real depth behind it and that's progressing at full pace...
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Daneel Trevize
Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 28/05/2011 22:05:15
The person who made these 'budget' and 'quality' restrictions does not seem to understand they'd make up the PR difference in quantity if you'd just had thousands of people relinking and commenting on tens of fights for many hours this evening, and tomorrow, and the same again next week.
I mean, all the other recent & planned **** seems to be cobbled together to appeal to the masses asap with no real depth behind it and that's progressing at full pace...
And before you ignore that as wrong, let me just remind you of the new forums ****up.
I'm pretty sure that person understands it miles better than you :)
Enjoy the tournament.
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Targie McRed
Gallente
Heretic Army
B A N E
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:10:00 -
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If CCP is worried about Costs, Why not set up a JustinTv account, Which is Free???
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Cyfrowy Polsat
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:11:00 -
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Quote:
(...)"budgets" and "quality". You'll get them for the studio weekends.
Ok, we will, but still, you've screwed the fanbase out of 2/3rds of the content if not more. I know none of these posts will make a difference this year, they never do, once CCP plans something, it's settled, the p(l)ayers are being listened to just in the same way as a government listens to it's tax payers in any democratic country... I just hope that the genius who decided to scrap the qualifiers' coverage gets crucified before AT X (or maybe even before AT IX, since according to a certain CCP employee, it hasn't started yet). And if that person is you Soundwave - sorry - but I still do .
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Dinta Zembo
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Dinta Zembo on 28/05/2011 22:12:39
Originally by: Cyfrowy PolsatOk
we will, but still, you've screwed the fanbase out of 2/3rds of the content if not more. I know none of these posts will make a difference this year, they never do, once CCP plans something, it's settled, the p(l)ayers are being listened to just in the same way as a government listens to it's tax payers in any democratic country... I just hope that the genius who decided to scrap the qualifiers' coverage gets crucified before AT X (or maybe even before AT IX, since according to a certain CCP employee, it hasn't started yet). And if that person is you Soundwave - sorry - but I still do .
Lol'd. 
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Enjoy the tournament.
In case you don't get it. We are trying to but it's made a bit hard when you don't air the fights.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Yeah, a player probably doesn't have restrictions such as "budgets" and "quality". You'll get them for the studio weekends.
As long as you have 500k up and a decent computer(which you should seeing as you make vidya games) you can stream for free. Budget of zero or near zero is somewhat compelling. Hell I would do it if my box wasn't a candidate for the min-spec requirements lab.
As a side note:
I have a feeling CCP did not expect the pitchforks in this instance.
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Terrare Vordai
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:23:00 -
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I am very confused as to why if you are already recording it, as was posted by CCP in another thread, why you can't simply post them to youtube without any commentary or anything.
Seems like it was a poor decision to begin with, and now the decision is being called into question. It's OK to make poor decisions, but learning from them and correcting them if possible is key.
Your players want to see the videos, is it that hard to release them, even without any audio at all? Youtube does not cost anything and quite frankly, the budget/cost concerns are total fabrications.
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CCP Soundwave
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.05.28 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
As a side note:
I have a feeling CCP did not expect the pitchforks in this instance.
Nah, same as every year.
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Random Identity
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Posted - 2011.05.28 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Random Identity on 28/05/2011 23:14:06
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Random Womble
Edit: Out of interest what you you do if the IC guys and girls started streaming the matches they were watching and doing reports on?
Just to be clear - this isn't within IC's remit and we have no plans to do it.
I was more wondering whether or not the devs would have a fit about it and kick you guys off the IC team or if you would be allowed a sensible measure of tolerance for taking the initiative and supplying content to the players that they wish to see.
Edit:Fail alt is fail!!
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Daneel Trevize
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.28 23:14:00 -
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Always having some complaints each year does not change whether this year has been significantly worse than previous & expectations or not. |
Theophaga Asp
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Posted - 2011.05.29 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Originally by: Daneel Trevize
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I'm pretty sure that person understands it miles better than you :)
Enjoy the tournament.
I'd like to enjoy the tournament but you chose not to show me the tournament. Stop being defensive and self-assured, and get someone out there with a roving camera, post the result anonymously and without commentary to a free video site. Then you'd be a hero soundwave.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.05.29 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Theophaga Asp
Originally by: Daneel Trevize
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I'm pretty sure that person understands it miles better than you :)
Enjoy the tournament.
I'd like to enjoy the tournament but you chose not to show me the tournament. Stop being defensive and self-assured, and get someone out there with a roving camera, post the result anonymously and without commentary to a free video site. Then you'd be a hero soundwave.
And what would you see then?
10 ships shooting at each other from 100 km away or so. Yeah ... interesting ... not!
You wouldn't see any shields/armor/structure, you wouldn't see which side each ship belongs to, you wouldn't see anything at all.
If you move someone in, closer, then there is a danger of interference. So you can't send just some random dude but a trustworthy person ... yeah, soooo easy to find within the EVE players... not.
To see what is going on, you would need to set standings to each team (red, blue etc.), that alone is quite some work. Then you would want to target and lock the combatants to see shields and armours, then you need to have a GM watch over the recording person that no interference happens (ecm, whatever) and so on ... but yeah, all is for free and budget is something completely irrelevant.
I can understand that CCP doesn't have the resources at the moment to cover the pre-qualifying rounds. A pity, but it is as it is. We can be glad that have a coverage of the final two weekends - which is just awesome. Though that's not enough
But maybe they can give the ISD reporters some more tools next year. Those folks are already doing a fantastic job with their AT9 website, the twitter feed and reporting from the match near live. And since they are ISD, they can be trusted to a certain degree more than regular players. And they are highly motivated already, being volunteers and all.
So, maybe CCP can think about more tools for them next time (if they can cope with additional workload). This way the players win (video recordings) and CCP wins also (almost no additional costs). |
Brokers Clone
Amarr
Northgate
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Posted - 2011.05.29 06:26:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Brokers Clone on 29/05/2011 06:28:24
Edited by: GOD on 29/05/2011 06:31:18
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Originally by: Daneel Trevize
Edited by: Daneel Trevize on 28/05/2011 22:05:15
The person who made these 'budget' and 'quality' restrictions does not seem to understand ...<stuff>.
I'm pretty sure that person understands it miles better than you :)
Enjoy the tournament.
Have a care, Some of us might surprise you with what they understand
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Mr Rive
Rens 911
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2011.05.29 10:16:00 -
[67]
I'm not :mad: about this at all, It's just a shame its not getting shown in any way.
I'm actually quite glad that it didnt happen now because it means no one saw us lose to a bunch of NC carebears. Thanks soundwave
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Freddy Nightpopper
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Posted - 2011.05.29 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Freddy Nightpopper on 29/05/2011 11:48:41
Honestly, why are you then parading the news and info on this AT?
Either get them frapsed and uploaded, cheap but watchable way. Or just "present us" with whats left when those "magic" 2 weeks arrive. Because there is absolutely no reason to present any details, any fancy web page info when we can get all that from killboards.
Honestly, i would rather have all AT on you-tube or similar, and no commentary, no odd expensive sets and so on, even for finals. Reason is, in the end its the GAME were interested in, not how some comments fly from people being payed to talk nonsense. Do you really think that many would watch football or any other sport, if they could just randomly see some teams in semi finals and final? Or even more watch these sports because of the commentary booths?
Sacrifice something u can spare, and get the fraps sorted, for us that are suppose to watch and care about it.
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REQUIEMSORN
Anakites
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Posted - 2011.05.29 11:52:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Gnulpie
Originally by: Theophaga Asp
Originally by: Daneel Trevize
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I'm pretty sure that person understands it miles better than you :)
Enjoy the tournament.
I'd like to enjoy the tournament but you chose not to show me the tournament. Stop being defensive and self-assured, and get someone out there with a roving camera, post the result anonymously and without commentary to a free video site. Then you'd be a hero soundwave.
And what would you see then?
10 ships shooting at each other from 100 km away or so. Yeah ... interesting ... not!
You wouldn't see any shields/armor/structure, you wouldn't see which side each ship belongs to, you wouldn't see anything at all.
If you move someone in, closer, then there is a danger of interference. So you can't send just some random dude but a trustworthy person ... yeah, soooo easy to find within the EVE players... not.
To see what is going on, you would need to set standings to each team (red, blue etc.), that alone is quite some work. Then you would want to target and lock the combatants to see shields and armours, then you need to have a GM watch over the recording person that no interference happens (ecm, whatever) and so on ... but yeah, all is for free and budget is something completely irrelevant.
I can understand that CCP doesn't have the resources at the moment to cover the pre-qualifying rounds. A pity, but it is as it is. We can be glad that have a coverage of the final two weekends - which is just awesome. Though that's not enough
But maybe they can give the ISD reporters some more tools next year. Those folks are already doing a fantastic job with their AT9 website, the twitter feed and reporting from the match near live. And since they are ISD, they can be trusted to a certain degree more than regular players. And they are highly motivated already, being volunteers and all.
So, maybe CCP can think about more tools for them next time (if they can cope with additional workload). This way the players win (video recordings) and CCP wins also (almost no additional costs).
I guess you haven't read about the player streams that everyone is appreciative over and enjoying. That seems to be enough for most people. Also, you do know ccp is already recording all the matches, but chose not to put them up. They are using the footage for clips during the finals weekends.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.05.29 13:49:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: CCP Soundwave
Enjoy the tournament.
In case you don't get it. We are trying to but it's made a bit hard when you don't air the fights.
They're too busy trying to strive for 'excellence' and checking if they can make profits off the AT as an arena sport. One of the markets the MMO-industry is looking quite hard at atm.
I guess that's what Soundwave mean with the 'we know better than you' comments as well. They believe throwing up low-qual streams will reduce outside interest in the potential arena sport, so it needs comments, production, and possibly a studio.
Players who actually play this game, and want to see how their friends/enemies perform is irrelevant in this concept, they already got our isk, they need others.
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Steve Bailey
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Posted - 2011.05.29 14:59:00 -
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HI i fought in the first round for lack of imagination, and am very dissapointed that the matches are not beeing shown i think ccp have made a huge mistake, these tourds are for everybody not just the teams that have entered it is a great tool for recruiting new members and showing what can be done in the game. Sorry CCP but this is a bad showing and there are no excuses, please rethink for nextweekend.
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Cheekyhoe
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Posted - 2011.06.04 22:15:00 -
[72]
What about letting a few willing people stream/record the AT for everyone else to enjoy.
Just give them temporary accounts / passwords and make them stuck in space in a cloaked ship that cant move 150km off the central beacon with a full mute for local/channels.
Costs nothing and gives free viewing for the people who want to watch without having to worry about content as they aren't doing it for you.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.04 22:56:00 -
[73]
Originally by: ISD Serathu Ashk
Originally by: Guru Man
What about ISD...last time they had a nice page with statistics and short game description... Personally I would appreciate something similar this year.
http://at.eve-ic.net/
Oh look how it used to be with AT1-7, and how I've kept up to date this whole tournament.
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Your Stuff
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Posted - 2011.06.05 14:40:00 -
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Soundwave, thanks for at least responding. I understand it is too late to offer a broadcast for the matches this year. I think all anyone is
asking is for next year to broadcast the entire set of matches. The consensus seems to be that the actual sporting event ought to be the priority over the
shiny studio production which is just fluff -- you know, tournament cat and the CCP insider commentators rubbing baby oil over each other sprinkled with a
healthy dose of a lame discussion of basic eve mechanics. It is the broadcast of the matches themselves that are the star of the show.
Our frustration is that just like in game, CCP focuses on bling while the important stuff is ignored.
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