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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:17:00 -
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I keep reading these "when CA fell" posts.
CA did not FALL....Implying that CA was defeated.
CA was never defeated. YOU listening Ginger Magician? you can change your Title now!
The Councel desolved and the Corporations there in walked away.
No one person is responsible and it wasn't because of anything anyone did to CA.
We just couldn't get along with one another and like all bad relationships....it had to end.
IF we(the CA)wanted too we could reform and punish you all for thinking such dangerous thoughts!!!  (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Cordova
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:19:00 -
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suuuuureeeeeee. ------------------------------
[url="http://helix.forums.fi/[/url] Director of Military Operations |

LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:28:00 -
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"Naaaah we didnĘt lose, we just didnĘt want to play any more."
Frankly the whole thing is getting slightly annoying. If the major reason for the disbanding of CA was internal then fine. But to say everyone fighting you for the past year had nothing to do with it is a bit childish. Perhaps if you werenĘt taking a bad beating in the last few weeks of CA's life people wouldnĘt have been so stressed? Perhaps if the raids into CA's space didnĘt happen then your industrial corps wouldnĘt have bothered certain other corps so much. All little things adding up and to just dismiss it is a little silly.
CanĘt help thinking of guys who disconnect their computer to avoid losing an RTS game whenever I see a post like yours.
----- Eris Discordia; I think the proper term is <3
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:28:00 -
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u think the ppl wouldve walked away when u wouldve beaten se and xetic?
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists u think the ppl wouldve walked away when u wouldve beaten se and xetic?
Yes. ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:37:00 -
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there is atleast one truth in TIvians post...
Ginger magician should change his title...
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.02.07 23:46:00 -
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WTF are you talking about?
I killed CA. In fact I have a t-shirt and bumper sticker that states this.
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mk ultra
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: LoxyRider "Naaaah we didnĘt lose, we just didnĘt want to play any more."
Frankly the whole thing is getting slightly annoying. If the major reason for the disbanding of CA was internal then fine. But to say everyone fighting you for the past year had nothing to do with it is a bit childish. Perhaps if you werenĘt taking a bad beating in the last few weeks of CA's life people wouldnĘt have been so stressed? Perhaps if the raids into CA's space didnĘt happen then your industrial corps wouldnĘt have bothered certain other corps so much. All little things adding up and to just dismiss it is a little silly.
CanĘt help thinking of guys who disconnect their computer to avoid losing an RTS game whenever I see a post like yours.
atuk left CA cause they got owned by stain and xetic ???
------------------------ <Beeth> Girls are like internet domain names, the ones I like are already taken. <honx> well, you can stil get one from a strange country :-P
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:07:00 -
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Ginger Magicians Arma setup:
7x Mega Pulse 3x Tracking Computers 8x Warp Core Stabs
Coward, little else i have respect for many i fought against during the CA wars but he gets none. Reverend Necrona |

HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona Ginger Magicians Arma setup:
7x Mega Pulse 3x Tracking Computers 8x Warp Core Stabs
Coward, little else i have respect for many i fought against during the CA wars but he gets none.
5 mega pulse 2 large SB  __________ HC MasiEEE
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona Ginger Magicians Arma setup:
7x Mega Pulse 3x Tracking Computers 8x Warp Core Stabs
Coward, little else i have respect for many i fought against during the CA wars but he gets none.
Yes when anything larger then a cruiser come sin he tends to run away.

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Eleese
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:47:00 -
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um the reason why ca fell is irrelevant..ca still fell. CA no longer exists therefore they fell. You fell to internal problems... whatever reason. |

Lallante
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Posted - 2005.02.08 00:59:00 -
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No, we chose to close it down.
Noone says m0o fell when it went into its hibernation period.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.02.08 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Smith on 08/02/2005 01:18:18 CA fractured because of corps like VOTF/SUPRM/SNRA leaving....thats 80% of the regular CA pvp fleet gone right there.
My reasons for leaving CA...sick and tired of carrying others while they get rich and did nothing to help.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.02.08 02:57:00 -
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For anyone to say that CA broke apart because of external powers is just rediculous. We handled everything Eve threw at us, it was purely internal.
P.S. Tiv, you should come back to VOTF. We miss ya 
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.02.08 03:15:00 -
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I'd really like to believe all that... But I can't, based on 1 simple fact.
When CA "SURRENDERED" to SA, they did not surrender to Xetic. Had they stayed and fought, I may have a different perspective. But running to the other side of the galaxy did put a different aspect on the whole situation.
In retrospect, AFAIK m0o hasn't "run away" from wars that they started. If they have, please clarify, but that is a pretty bad analogy IMO.
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.02.08 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz I'd really like to believe all that... But I can't, based on 1 simple fact.
When CA "SURRENDERED" to SA, they did not surrender to Xetic. Had they stayed and fought, I may have a different perspective. But running to the other side of the galaxy did put a different aspect on the whole situation.
In retrospect, AFAIK m0o hasn't "run away" from wars that they started. If they have, please clarify, but that is a pretty bad analogy IMO.
You know im not even CA and what u say irritates the hell out of me. Your some of the worst fighters in the game and you think you actually defeated CA????? No way, even from the outside its painfully obvious their demise was their own doing, much like the NVA. So yeah they fell, but they shot themselves in the head, you missed... ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.02.08 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Krapz I'd really like to believe all that... But I can't, based on 1 simple fact.
When CA "SURRENDERED" to SA, they did not surrender to Xetic. Had they stayed and fought, I may have a different perspective. But running to the other side of the galaxy did put a different aspect on the whole situation.
In retrospect, AFAIK m0o hasn't "run away" from wars that they started. If they have, please clarify, but that is a pretty bad analogy IMO.
You know im not even CA and what u say irritates the hell out of me. Your some of the worst fighters in the game and you think you actually defeated CA????? No way, even from the outside its painfully obvious their demise was their own doing, much like the NVA. So yeah they fell, but they shot themselves in the head, you missed...
Nah man, you missed my point. I know we suck at PvP. I know CA had tons of internal issues. I've been over this time and time again.
Point is, they still fell as an alliance, but left an open war declaration in place. A war declaration that CA had originally declared no less. Instead of making peace with SA, and continue fighting Xetic, the chose to make peace with SA, and then run away from, as you so eloquently put it, "some of the worst fighters in the game."
I think you're making my point without knowing it. CA fell. There were lots of reasons, but to deny the military punishment that SA/ATUK/Xetic were dishing out is just ignorant. I know they had issues with sharing toys in their sandbox, but the pressure brought from the outside world was also a factor.
There are stll quite a few ppl in CA that I respect, regardless of what the leadership chose to do at that time. This thread is not going to change that. I just don't think you can go back and rewrite history. What's done is done. Let's just play. 
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MatrixVotf
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Posted - 2005.02.08 04:23:00 -
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The reason we made peace with SE and not XF is because XF was and still is the junior, insignificat partner.
Please stop pretending like you matter. Anyone thats clued in knows you (XF)had nothing to do with it.
PLease continue to run your mouth, your time will come eventually.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2005.02.08 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Krapz I'd really like to believe all that... But I can't, based on 1 simple fact.
When CA "SURRENDERED" to SA, they did not surrender to Xetic. Had they stayed and fought, I may have a different perspective. But running to the other side of the galaxy did put a different aspect on the whole situation.
In retrospect, AFAIK m0o hasn't "run away" from wars that they started. If they have, please clarify, but that is a pretty bad analogy IMO.
CA had 10 people in it when they "SURRENDERED" congrats on your victory. ______________________
What Aerick has been up to lately.. |

General Killah
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Posted - 2005.02.08 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixVotf The reason we made peace with SE and not XF is because XF was and still is the junior, insignificat partner.
Please stop pretending like you matter. Anyone thats clued in knows you (XF)had nothing to do with it.
PLease continue to run your mouth, your time will come eventually.
Yeah, don't worry man, they are on our list right below Shinra and right above the carebears in empire. ---------------------------------
You didn't think Rome ever REALLY fell did you? |

Meridius
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Posted - 2005.02.08 05:27:00 -
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You guys should come back, catch is carebear hell. Last week, i was npcing in sv5.
At a gate ffs. ________________________________________________________
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.08 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: MatrixVotf The reason we made peace with SE and not XF is because XF was and still is the junior, insignificat partner.
Please stop pretending like you matter. Anyone thats clued in knows you (XF)had nothing to do with it.
PLease continue to run your mouth, your time will come eventually.
Yeah, don't worry man, they are on our list right below Shinra and right above the carebears in empire.
I'm sure we have a spot free in about two weeks when FA is dead. Contact us then, i bet we can arrange something.
You better buy a WCS BPO, you'll need em ;)
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.02.08 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: General Killah
Originally by: MatrixVotf The reason we made peace with SE and not XF is because XF was and still is the junior, insignificat partner.
Please stop pretending like you matter. Anyone thats clued in knows you (XF)had nothing to do with it.
PLease continue to run your mouth, your time will come eventually.
Yeah, don't worry man, they are on our list right below Shinra and right above the carebears in empire.
ha ha ha this coming from rome,onoes.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.02.08 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade Yeah, don't worry man, they are on our list right below Shinra and right above the carebears in empire.
I'm sure we have a spot free in about two weeks when FA is dead. Contact us then, i bet we can arrange something.
You better buy a WCS BPO, you'll need em ;)
I'm starting to really like Shinra 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.02.08 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jeebs on 08/02/2005 06:46:25 ginger magician's title is accurate... if he's the alt of all the CEO's of corps that left CA...
(\_/) (x.x) (> <) This was Bunny. Kill Bunny and stop him from achieving world domination. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.02.08 07:00:00 -
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Does it really matter how/when/why CA collapsed?
At the end of the day, they're dead and XF/SE/FA aren't. Those're the facts.
P.S: Leno, I wouldn't say XF are the worst pvp'ers in the game. They have me now 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.02.08 07:10:00 -
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Josh for teh win 
And Xetic didn't do it that bad vs, they fought off every invasion Maybe it wasn't great fighting but CA did pull back  __________ HC MasiEEE
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.02.08 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert They have me now 
roflcopters
:)
Eve Blacklight Style
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.02.08 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Joshua Calvert They have me now 
roflcopters
:)
C'mon, it was at least worth a lollerskates too 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
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