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Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.20 11:24:00 - [1] Edited by: Dinamita Tona on 20/04/2011 11:24:14 I would like to know when (if ever) and what ship from Minmatar fleet will have 10% bonus to the velocity factor of Stasis Webifiers per level ? Amar and Gallente have such bonus, but actual owner has not a single ship with it?
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.04.20 13:04:00 - [2] Edited by: King Rothgar on 20/04/2011 13:04:27 The cruor and ashimmu have such a bonus attached to the minmatar half of the ship skill. Neuts are attached to the amarr half. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.04.20 14:02:00 - [3] Saying that "Amarr and Gallente have such [a] bonus" is overstating the case somewhatà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
shadowraven001	Posted - 2011.04.20 14:13:00 - [4] I am not sure what your argument here is? Correct me if i am wrong are Minmatar not the only race who have the range bonus to statis webs. if the intention for all races to have the same bonus avilible there would seem little point in cross trainning or balanced gangs/fleets across multiple races. if you could make your argument a little stonger by adding why you belive this to be necersary and what improvments it would bring to gameplay then more constuctive feedback for your idea might be given Regards Raven
Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.20 15:42:00 - [5] Edited by: Dinamita Tona on 20/04/2011 15:45:30 Argument? Well it is only bonus added to marauder, or faction ship that is non existent by default race. Bonus on range is IMO unimportant, but 90% web strength has big impact on all ships. Or if i fit 2 webs i got 75% effect of slowing down targeted ship. Above mentioned ships with single web do 90%. Advantage is obvious.
thoraxius demioses Gallente no goats here	Posted - 2011.04.20 15:56:00 - [6] wel dont most nano minmatar poeple fly outside of th 15km orbit. their is always vigilant and vindicator to train for
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2011.04.20 16:53:00 - [7] Originally by: Dinamita Tona Edited by: Dinamita Tona on 20/04/2011 15:45:30 Argument? Well it is only bonus added to marauder, or faction ship that is non existent by default race. Bonus on range is IMO unimportant, but 90% web strength has big impact on all ships. Or if i fit 2 webs i got 75% effect of slowing down targeted ship. Above mentioned ships with single web do 90%. Advantage is obvious. Double webbing a target 35+ km away is hardly "unimportant" and, in fact, makes those speedy-kiting ships cry. Throw in an Arazu or Lachesis for it's 20+ km warp scrambler and nothing will be DARE venture too close (and if they do, they won't be getting away). Like the others here, I fail to see what exactly your are proposing. Do you want ALL races to have a ship that gives a webbifier velocity bonus? Do you want the Rapier's/Huginn's webbifier range bonus scrapped in favor of velocity bonus? _______________________ "Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown
Baaldor Igneus Auctorita Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.04.20 17:11:00 - [8] Originally by: ShahFluffers Originally by: Dinamita Tona Edited by: Dinamita Tona on 20/04/2011 15:45:30 Argument? Well it is only bonus added to marauder, or faction ship that is non existent by default race. Bonus on range is IMO unimportant, but 90% web strength has big impact on all ships. Or if i fit 2 webs i got 75% effect of slowing down targeted ship. Above mentioned ships with single web do 90%. Advantage is obvious. Double webbing a target 35+ km away is hardly "unimportant" and, in fact, makes those speedy-kiting ships cry. Throw in an Arazu or Lachesis for it's 20+ km warp scrambler and nothing will be DARE venture too close (and if they do, they won't be getting away). Like the others here, I fail to see what exactly your are proposing. Do you want ALL races to have a ship that gives a webbifier velocity bonus? Do you want the Rapier's/Huginn's webbifier range bonus scrapped in favor of velocity bonus? I think he is asking for a racial bonus to web so he does not have to burn a slot to achieve the same thing with two web, well close to it any way.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.20 18:04:00 - [9] Because Minmatar pirate faction ships are already op, that's why.
Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.20 18:07:00 - [10] I have not spoken about minmatar faction ships (which btw arent overpowered, just right for skilled hand) I have talked about t1/t2/t3 minmatar ships
Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.20 18:14:00 - [11] Originally by: ShahFluffers Double webbing a target 35+ km away is hardly "unimportant" and, in fact, makes those speedy-kiting ships cry. Throw in an Arazu or Lachesis for it's 20+ km warp scrambler and nothing will be DARE venture too close (and if they do, they won't be getting away). Like the others here, I fail to see what exactly your are proposing. Do you want ALL races to have a ship that gives a webbifier velocity bonus? Do you want the Rapier's/Huginn's webbifier range bonus scrapped in favor of velocity bonus? I must say that i have not seen any hugin/rapier ever used since range/stregth nerf. Tournament does not count. But i have seen many times vindicator, vigilant in action. That is fact for itself. If you have webed target at 35km it can always warp off. However have not seen ever that target escaped to vindicator/vigilant.
s666ss666ss666	Posted - 2011.04.21 15:31:00 - [12] OP should get out of high sec before calming widely used ships are unless and never used. its rare to see somthing less that a horrific blob or a cap fleet NOT sporting a rapier or huggin on nullsec
Feligast Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.04.21 17:40:00 - [13] Originally by: s666ss666ss666 OP should get out of high sec before calming widely used ships are unless and never used. its rare to see somthing less that a horrific blob or a cap fleet NOT sporting a rapier or huggin on nullsec You beat me to my thought. Just because they're not used when you're camping the Jita 4-4 undock doesn't mean they're not used. Huginns especiallly are essential in fleet warfare.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2011.04.21 19:08:00 - [14] Huginns/Rapiers and webbing Loki's are very common in Nullsec PewPew. The only ships that have the 10% bonus to statis webefier amount are: Cruor, Ashimmu (Blood Raider == Amarr + Minnie) Daredevil, Vigilant, Vindicator (Serpentis == Gallente + Minnie) and Paladin & Kronos (Amarr and Gallente Marauders). There are several ships that have a bonus to web range, and they are all minnie (except the Blood Raider's Bhaalgorn): Hyena, Rapier, Huginn, Loki, Bhaalgorn.
Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.27 06:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Gizznitt Malikite Huginns/Rapiers and webbing Loki's are very common in Nullsec PewPew. The only ships that have the 10% bonus to statis webefier amount are: Cruor, Ashimmu (Blood Raider == Amarr + Minnie) Daredevil, Vigilant, Vindicator (Serpentis == Gallente + Minnie) and Paladin & Kronos (Amarr and Gallente Marauders). There are several ships that have a bonus to web range, and they are all minnie (except the Blood Raider's Bhaalgorn): Hyena, Rapier, Huginn, Loki, Bhaalgorn. Kind of you to mention ships and their bonuses. And that is main reason why I'm complaining. From above it seems its more amar/gallente skill as they have it on 4 ships gallente, 3 ships Amarr. And how many minmatar ships have such bonus? Zero/0. I have no problem with Bhaal - he has real minmatar skill added to faction ship. But its stupid that 10% bonus on web strength is labeled as minmatar bonus, while not a single minmatar ship has such bonus. To slove this problem there should be at least single minmatar ship to have actual bonus - if it is minmatar bonus. If it is not rename it and problem solved. All other bonuses are real and existent in other races, just this aint. It is general complaint, not from just my point, but from point of minmatar race. It is or it is not minmatar bonus. If it is put it on normal minmatar ships. Takling about how and where do you use ships have absolutely no influence on this problem.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.04.27 07:54:00 - [16] Originally by: Dinamita Tona ... Zero/0... Selective much? All those instances, apart from the carebear mobiles have Minmatar as requisite as well, so if you are counting them as belonging to other races then you should also count them as Matar. Amarr - 3 (Cruor, Ashimmu, Paladin) Gallente - 4 (Serpentis, Kronos) Minmatar - 5 (all the above minus Marauders) What was the problem again? God-mode Rapiers/Hugginns are gone and good riddance. Prior to QR you only ever saw them and the ECM birds in space, with a random Curse once in a while. Now we have pretty much ALL recons flying around as they all have value .. So tell me again why you'd want to wreck the game just because you cannot beat AB frigs with your outdated FoTM Rapier fit.
Toramii Le Moulin Rouge	Posted - 2011.04.27 15:40:00 - [17] Broken blasters are why 90% webs existed in the first place, ask TomB. Fix racial blaster ships first!
Goose99	Posted - 2011.04.27 18:03:00 - [18] Why can Amar ships not shield tank? This is an outrage! Clearly all ships in Eve should be able to do all things. Wtb web bonus on my Ibis.
Baaldor Igneus Auctorita Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.04.27 18:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Goose99 bonus on my Ibis. Ibis Swarm...yeah.
Zan Shiro	Posted - 2011.04.28 00:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Dinamita Tona Kind of you to mention ships and their bonuses. And that is main reason why I'm complaining. From above it seems its more amar/gallente skill as they have it on 4 ships gallente, 3 ships Amarr. And how many minmatar ships have such bonus? Zero/0. So bring some amarr and gallente to the fleet. It should be obvious from the ship layout what ccp is doing....they are encouraging mixed fleets. 2 races lack, 2 races have. put all 4 races in a fleet, profit. MMO, teamwork, all that happy horsecrap.
Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.29 09:16:00 - [21] I'm talking one thing - you are blebling nonsense about stuff i didn't even mention. Its like talking to wall. I hope that there are people from CCP that actually understood what I was referring to. And all you whiners, just whine about everything.
Dinamita Tona Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.29 09:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Originally by: Dinamita Tona ... Zero/0... What was the problem again? So tell me again why you'd want to wreck the game just because you cannot beat AB frigs with your outdated FoTM Rapier fit. this is so wrong by milion reasons

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