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Posted - 2005.02.08 19:02:00 - [31]

Edited by: Ari Kristinn on 08/02/2005 19:04:39
Originally by: j0sephine

Neither is running the same instanced dungeon over and over and over because there is nothing else to do...



Thats your choice on how to play the game, I for one when i reached lvl 60 actually started doing much more fun things then i was doing before when questing.

Quests are fun, gaining tradeskill experience is fun, finding your cool items is fun. Finding materials for your items is fun. Finding recipes for rare items... fun.

Ok you've done all that, i've done most of that allthough i probably havent done 1/10 of the quests available nore found that many of the rare/epic items...but i was lvl 60 and had little to do, no wait ? whats that ? I had MORE fun when i was lvl 60 then i had getting there ? Amazing! I did PvP every single day, spent hours upon hours defending newbie town from raids and likewise getting revenge by raiding enemy towns. Thats more then enough to keep me occupied and blizzard is going to add more end game content in the future so its all good for me.

If you hate the game then fine, dont play it, better off without you I guess, but one thing i¦d reccomend, do NOT rush to the endgame, dont powerlevel like 95% of the high level people that are complaining about nothing to do have done, you skip out on way too much of the game when u do and that can ruin it for you.

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You can make lvl 60 in 2 weeks. Probably less if you dedicate more time.


Brilliant, and when do you plan on doing any of the fun stuff if all your time is spent on leveing ? Something most people dont understand and i already explained, but wow, it seems popular to skip 98% of the game then complain there¦s nothing more to do....

:]
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Posted - 2005.02.08 19:02:00 - [32]

Edited by: Ari Kristinn on 08/02/2005 19:04:39
Originally by: j0sephine

Neither is running the same instanced dungeon over and over and over because there is nothing else to do...



Thats your choice on how to play the game, I for one when i reached lvl 60 actually started doing much more fun things then i was doing before when questing.

Quests are fun, gaining tradeskill experience is fun, finding your cool items is fun. Finding materials for your items is fun. Finding recipes for rare items... fun.

Ok you've done all that, i've done most of that allthough i probably havent done 1/10 of the quests available nore found that many of the rare/epic items...but i was lvl 60 and had little to do, no wait ? whats that ? I had MORE fun when i was lvl 60 then i had getting there ? Amazing! I did PvP every single day, spent hours upon hours defending newbie town from raids and likewise getting revenge by raiding enemy towns. Thats more then enough to keep me occupied and blizzard is going to add more end game content in the future so its all good for me.

If you hate the game then fine, dont play it, better off without you I guess, but one thing i¦d reccomend, do NOT rush to the endgame, dont powerlevel like 95% of the high level people that are complaining about nothing to do have done, you skip out on way too much of the game when u do and that can ruin it for you.

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You can make lvl 60 in 2 weeks. Probably less if you dedicate more time.


Brilliant, and when do you plan on doing any of the fun stuff if all your time is spent on leveing ? Something most people dont understand and i already explained, but wow, it seems popular to skip 98% of the game then complain there¦s nothing more to do....

:]
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:06:00 - [33]

"Thats your choice on how to play the game, I for one when i reached lvl 60 actually started doing much more fun things then i was doing before when questing. (..)

but i was lvl 60 and had little to do, no wait ? whats that ? I had MORE fun when i was lvl 60 then i had getting there ? Amazing! I did PvP every single day, spent hours upon hours defending newbie town from raids and likewise getting revenge by raiding enemy towns. Thats more then enough to keep me occupied and blizzard is going to add more end game content in the future so its all good for me."


So, you didn't PvP until you hit lvl.60? Then it's no surprise that was a novelty for you.

Playing on the PvP server i've been doing that as side activity since lvl.10 or so, so it wasn't anything "special". Just part of the everyday fun, not something that getting to high level 'awarded' me somehow...


"If you hate the game then fine, dont play it, better off without you I guess, but one thing i¦d reccomend, do NOT rush to the endgame, dont powerlevel like 95% of the high level people that are complaining about nothing to do have done, you skip out on way too much of the game when u do and that can ruin it for you."

I don't hate the game, simply call it what it is -- it's barrel of fun while levelling, and when you're done with it there is only one thing to do that you couldn't do until you hit such high level -- which is doing raids in couple implemented (and bugged) high level instances, in hope to get lucky on rare loot drop. And it'll stay this way until the promised additions like battlegrounds are finally introduced... although even then it still strikes me as somehow meaningless, since there is no real control you can gain over any part of world there, so you can't really shape it with your actions...

Oh, and no, i don't rush my games... ffs, i had to routinely peel oversexed dwarves off me in Ironforge because i happen to prefer a random walk across the town checking out the sights, from running blindly between XP grindholes. Think that's about as slow as you can make it. :s
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:06:00 - [34]

"Thats your choice on how to play the game, I for one when i reached lvl 60 actually started doing much more fun things then i was doing before when questing. (..)

but i was lvl 60 and had little to do, no wait ? whats that ? I had MORE fun when i was lvl 60 then i had getting there ? Amazing! I did PvP every single day, spent hours upon hours defending newbie town from raids and likewise getting revenge by raiding enemy towns. Thats more then enough to keep me occupied and blizzard is going to add more end game content in the future so its all good for me."


So, you didn't PvP until you hit lvl.60? Then it's no surprise that was a novelty for you.

Playing on the PvP server i've been doing that as side activity since lvl.10 or so, so it wasn't anything "special". Just part of the everyday fun, not something that getting to high level 'awarded' me somehow...


"If you hate the game then fine, dont play it, better off without you I guess, but one thing i¦d reccomend, do NOT rush to the endgame, dont powerlevel like 95% of the high level people that are complaining about nothing to do have done, you skip out on way too much of the game when u do and that can ruin it for you."

I don't hate the game, simply call it what it is -- it's barrel of fun while levelling, and when you're done with it there is only one thing to do that you couldn't do until you hit such high level -- which is doing raids in couple implemented (and bugged) high level instances, in hope to get lucky on rare loot drop. And it'll stay this way until the promised additions like battlegrounds are finally introduced... although even then it still strikes me as somehow meaningless, since there is no real control you can gain over any part of world there, so you can't really shape it with your actions...

Oh, and no, i don't rush my games... ffs, i had to routinely peel oversexed dwarves off me in Ironforge because i happen to prefer a random walk across the town checking out the sights, from running blindly between XP grindholes. Think that's about as slow as you can make it. :s
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:13:00 - [35]

"* Character Evolution is FAST, and i mean really fast. One of the things that interested me about eve was that it was slow, it would take a long time to see a noticeable difference in your characters abilities but the way it works in WoW is just much more fun, After a day of playing i can cast a bunch of new and more powerful spells, i can fight new and different monsters finding new and cool things to use and wear AND every day i'm making something new in my craft profession though, they arnent as useful as i¦d hope it is in fact, fun."

Aye, and then you hit lvl.60 and your fast and entertaining character progress hits the wall and stops. Unless you spend days running these few game instances i mentioned. That's the very essence why many people find WoW fun while they level and stop finding it fun when they get 'there'.

That's not 'hating the game' but simple reality and the way things are... no amount of pouting and stomping one's feet and telling yourself "but really, it's still fuuuuuuun!" changes it.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:13:00 - [36]

"* Character Evolution is FAST, and i mean really fast. One of the things that interested me about eve was that it was slow, it would take a long time to see a noticeable difference in your characters abilities but the way it works in WoW is just much more fun, After a day of playing i can cast a bunch of new and more powerful spells, i can fight new and different monsters finding new and cool things to use and wear AND every day i'm making something new in my craft profession though, they arnent as useful as i¦d hope it is in fact, fun."

Aye, and then you hit lvl.60 and your fast and entertaining character progress hits the wall and stops. Unless you spend days running these few game instances i mentioned. That's the very essence why many people find WoW fun while they level and stop finding it fun when they get 'there'.

That's not 'hating the game' but simple reality and the way things are... no amount of pouting and stomping one's feet and telling yourself "but really, it's still fuuuuuuun!" changes it.
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:23:00 - [37]

Edited by: meowcat on 08/02/2005 20:23:15
wow?

thats swords and trolls and s**t isn't it?
that hasn't been interesting since 1954 - tolkien fans will recognise the date

edit: definitely in favour of some sort of flower picking content for eve though Laughing

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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:23:00 - [38]

Edited by: meowcat on 08/02/2005 20:23:15
wow?

thats swords and trolls and s**t isn't it?
that hasn't been interesting since 1954 - tolkien fans will recognise the date

edit: definitely in favour of some sort of flower picking content for eve though Laughing

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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:27:00 - [39]

PvP since lvl 10 basicly, but hey, to each his own, more fun for me :]

and that thing about trolls and swords...well, pleh. Not even worth a reply :P
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:27:00 - [40]

PvP since lvl 10 basicly, but hey, to each his own, more fun for me :]

and that thing about trolls and swords...well, pleh. Not even worth a reply :P
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:58:00 - [41]

Originally by: meowcat
Edited by: meowcat on 08/02/2005 20:23:15
wow?

thats swords and trolls and s**t isn't it?
that hasn't been interesting since 1954 - tolkien fans will recognise the date

edit: definitely in favour of some sort of flower picking content for eve though Laughing


omg yes! flower-asteroids invading eve! introduce new flower harvesting and flower refining skills for teh win!
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Posted - 2005.02.08 20:58:00 - [42]

Originally by: meowcat
Edited by: meowcat on 08/02/2005 20:23:15
wow?

thats swords and trolls and s**t isn't it?
that hasn't been interesting since 1954 - tolkien fans will recognise the date

edit: definitely in favour of some sort of flower picking content for eve though Laughing


omg yes! flower-asteroids invading eve! introduce new flower harvesting and flower refining skills for teh win!
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Posted - 2005.02.08 21:13:00 - [43]

"edit: definitely in favour of some sort of flower picking content for eve though Laughing"

We already have Gallente, isn't that as close to the flower picking as it can get? ;s
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Posted - 2005.02.08 21:13:00 - [44]

"edit: definitely in favour of some sort of flower picking content for eve though Laughing"

We already have Gallente, isn't that as close to the flower picking as it can get? ;s
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Posted - 2005.02.09 01:23:00 - [45]

well i wont be playing it that's for sure... wizards and trolls and srtuff just don't float my boat... hence why i fell asleep during lord of the rings...Laughing


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Posted - 2005.02.09 01:23:00 - [46]

well i wont be playing it that's for sure... wizards and trolls and srtuff just don't float my boat... hence why i fell asleep during lord of the rings...Laughing


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Posted - 2005.02.09 02:25:00 - [47]

Edited by: Alexis Machine on 09/02/2005 02:30:47
Originally by: j0sephine


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You can make lvl 60 in 2 weeks. Probably less if you dedicate more time.


Brilliant, and when do you plan on doing any of the fun stuff if all your time is spent on leveing ? Something most people dont understand and i already explained, but wow, it seems popular to skip 98% of the game then complain there¦s nothing more to do....

:]


I was in the closed beta, and bought it at launch.

I've been through all the content. There's about 3-4 months of good content for a moderate player. More or less depending how many hours you devote to gaming. But after that, there's nothing. And believe me, by that time, you'll be lvl 60. They may have battlegrounds by then, that will appease some. But, c'mon.. that doesn't really count. I highly doubt that blizzard will realese actual content, other than a few instances that, while fun, are the same thing every time you play them.

Don't get me wrong, I never said it was a bad game. It's a good game. It's just not worth me justifying a monthly payment to. It got boring, and repetetive, and I had more complaints than compliments. From the balancing issues to the way they handle player distribution on their servers, to the way they handle the community.

But like I said, if they make a few changes, for the better, I'd re activate my account.

Smile

*edit cause I'm stoned.

Oh yeah, and I wasn't like.. whining or complaining in the sense of being a *****. I was just pointing out some of the problems that they had. I could do the same for Eve, but I find eve more enjoyable.

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Posted - 2005.02.09 02:25:00 - [48]

Edited by: Alexis Machine on 09/02/2005 02:30:47
Originally by: j0sephine


Quote:
You can make lvl 60 in 2 weeks. Probably less if you dedicate more time.


Brilliant, and when do you plan on doing any of the fun stuff if all your time is spent on leveing ? Something most people dont understand and i already explained, but wow, it seems popular to skip 98% of the game then complain there¦s nothing more to do....

:]


I was in the closed beta, and bought it at launch.

I've been through all the content. There's about 3-4 months of good content for a moderate player. More or less depending how many hours you devote to gaming. But after that, there's nothing. And believe me, by that time, you'll be lvl 60. They may have battlegrounds by then, that will appease some. But, c'mon.. that doesn't really count. I highly doubt that blizzard will realese actual content, other than a few instances that, while fun, are the same thing every time you play them.

Don't get me wrong, I never said it was a bad game. It's a good game. It's just not worth me justifying a monthly payment to. It got boring, and repetetive, and I had more complaints than compliments. From the balancing issues to the way they handle player distribution on their servers, to the way they handle the community.

But like I said, if they make a few changes, for the better, I'd re activate my account.

Smile

*edit cause I'm stoned.

Oh yeah, and I wasn't like.. whining or complaining in the sense of being a *****. I was just pointing out some of the problems that they had. I could do the same for Eve, but I find eve more enjoyable.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:27:00 - [49]

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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:46:00 - [50]

Good, if you play eve and get tempted by WOW, we dont want you anyway. GTFO Wink


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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:55:00 - [51]

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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:42:00 - [52]

Some one call Doc Brown!

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Posted - 2007.07.26 00:55:00 - [53]

Yes but, WOW has gotten so many people into MMO's which have then got bored of the game and looked for others. Many of which have come to Eve. As CCP always say WoW is a massive help to the industry.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 10:05:00 - [54]

I beta'd WOW and the best part was the content and to be honest Warcraft had how many years of prior development compaired to Eve? Lets be fair when it comes to this department Eve was in development for 2 years and has been out for 4 so thats 6 years and the actual Warcraft Universe has been un constant development since the early 90s.

The pvp like the rest of WoW is very fun til you get the hang of it and have all the shiny toys you could ever want,the nicest thing about WoW lately is that their are fewer Night Elves around. Seriously for the majority of time WoW has existed Elves have been the solo pwnmobiles of the game and hence made playing anything else almost a moot point. Which in my mind undercut alot of the effort put behind the content of the game.

Now is that to say eve is better? Nope its just as bad but in a very different way tho I can say this if it weren't for the sense of community,I would not have been around this long,putting everyone on a single server was CCPs one good idea imo,from there on out its just geared the game more towards massive blobs,massive alliances and well just making things bigger, what used to be real cool about Eve was how noob friendly it could be,spend a month or less,hop in a Crusie Kestral or Torp BB and have a good old time and you could be useful in anything from gank squads to huge fleet fights. It made noobs feel important for a just reason. Now its basically sit in Jita for the first year then think about going into low sec basically.

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Posted - 2007.07.26 10:13:00 - [55]

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Edited by: Garia666 on 09/02/2005 14:51:41
World of wuzzys as i would call it hehe..
anyway this is getting a seriouse problem to EVE.
I see many and many players quit eve and start to play WoW.

I find this very sad..

anyway what does CCP think about this..


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EvE is great at what it is trying to achieve.
WoW is great at what it is trying to achieve.

No one asks you to play WoW, so the fact that other people want to play it causes you problems.

How to put this bluntly, Grow the f**k up!


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Posted - 2007.07.26 10:25:00 - [56]

Well, I got to hand it to you folks, without WoW, sites like wowdrama.org would never have been born. Nor would I have stumbled upon this: http://www.wowdrama.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/jackcrying.mp3




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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:01:00 - [57]

This is like a 2 yr old topic..
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Posted - 2007.07.26 12:57:00 - [58]

I know it's a necro but I was thinking about this the other day. And I might as well put it in this one given it's just here.

At the time this OP was made I think WoW probably was a threat to the EVE userbase...A lot of people (and myself included) had gone off to try it out. And it's great while it lasts but it wears out. You can do everything (or it can be repetitive enough to feel like you've done everything) wheras EVE doesn't really have this problem as there isn't an 'endgame'. I know people who are still in WoW, but I also know people who've got sick of it and come back to EVE. Just the other day that happened actually.


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And it'll stay this way until the promised additions like battlegrounds are finally introduced... although even then it still strikes me as somehow meaningless, since there is no real control you can gain over any part of world there, so you can't really shape it with your actions...


This quote made me remember what I was thinking about. Battlegrounds strikes me as fun in the short term but ultimately shallow, and yes that could be an analogy for the whole game. I played WoW in beta and that was the most fun I had in it, before the real grinding mentality set in, when people were really just exploring and trying stuff out, and waaay before battlegrounds.

The thing about Battlegrounds, is imo, it backfired. It made pvp have less consequence instead of more. I mean, you want a large group of people vs another large group of people? Why get a huge group together and organise something interesting? Just get in the queue for another battleground...

When I was in beta there were some skirmishes in Darkshore, and I met up with some people who were going somewhere else, and there were things happening in the world channel, and eventually i met up with a large group of people in Ashenvale. It was like a war group. And as this large group was travelling through Ashenvale on the way to the Barrens, we'd get ambushed by horde groups. I was somewhere in the middle so I'd just see a few red names in the distance and have no idea how many there actually were. It was great, there were scouts running ahead and reporting in world, and lvls didn't really matter as there were so many people vs so many people.

So this large group eventually got down to the Barrens, where 'the final battle' happened where there was enough Horde to repell the Alliance and send them back to where they came from. But even though you have no dying in WoW, there's no consequence (I was a bit hesistant to PVP at first incase someone looted my stuffs, I didn't understand how it worked), it was really fun being involved in this 'war' with so many other people. It smelled of player made content. And I remember thinking this game has potential.

I was really excited at the idea of this happening full scale. There were these 'contested areas' on the map, and I was thinking, you could have these big scale wars in these contested areas, and whichever faction wins these wars takes over the territory. And the area becomes 'horde territory' or 'alliance territory' complete with any towns being taken over and new faction guards and the pvp zone rules that apply to those areas. And I thought, it'd be interesting, cause it'd probably be different on each server who controlled what. I mean, on one server that had a big horde population, the world might be almost entirely horde controlled, with the alliance being the underdogs. Or on another with an even population there'd be scrapping over territory all the time.

And then after beta, and especially after battlegrounds, these dreams fell away. Razz

I mean, fair enough, it's their game, they can develop it their way. But it seemed to me that pvp fell in the sidelines to grinding for phat lewts, and all battlegrounds really did was put the people who wanted to pvp in a seperate area away from the people grinding.
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Posted - 2007.07.26 13:37:00 - [59]

I'm guilty of leaving wow 1 year and 4 score ago to play eve :)
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