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Senator Amidala
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Posted - 2005.02.08 09:36:00 -
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Any truth behind the rumours that the NFA, Imp, G and Celestial Apoc are teaming up to defend the fountain core systems after a retreat from non-npc regions by the NFA?
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2005.02.08 09:53:00 -
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wtf is NFA?
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.08 10:04:00 -
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Try this link for some information, ohh and please do try reading other posts before you make any more. Cheers
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dokkillo
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Posted - 2005.02.08 10:21:00 -
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NFA not exist lol.. only exist FA lol....
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empire nublette
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Posted - 2005.02.08 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: empire nublette on 08/02/2005 10:28:30
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.08 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/02/2005 11:00:08
Celest are fighting SE around Empire space.
IMP are fighting m0o in syndicate.
NFA have pulled back from Delve en masse but are doing attacks into there daily.
G have only just come down so it remains to be seen what they are going to do *chortle*.
Have some balls man, post with your main.
dbp
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.08 12:29:00 -
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 Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/02/2005 11:00:08
IMP are fighting m0o in syndicate.
Um... if you mean Lord Zap smack talking in local as 'fighting' then sure...
Aneu
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Gozer
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Posted - 2005.02.08 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
G have only just come down so it remains to be seen what they are going to do *chortle*.
thanks dbp! i just managed to spray my cup of tea out of my nose all over my desk at work.. i'm now getting odd stares.
funniest thing i've read all day. 
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/02/2005 11:00:08
IMP are fighting m0o in syndicate.
Um... if you mean Lord Zap smack talking in local as 'fighting' then sure...
Aneu
Yes Aneu, that must be it.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.08 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 08/02/2005 11:00:08
IMP are fighting m0o in syndicate.
Um... if you mean Lord Zap smack talking in local as 'fighting' then sure...
Aneu
Yes Aneu, that must be it.
Damn it doesnt work, and i was really looking forward to it...
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Namelesz
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Posted - 2005.02.08 14:34:00 -
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Better to ask JQA what m0o did . . .
-Namelesz
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Rthor
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Posted - 2005.02.08 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Namelesz
Better to ask JQA what m0o did . . .
I thought JQA was dead. I am so confused.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2005.02.08 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 08/02/2005 18:39:45
Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 08/02/2005 18:37:32
you lose!!
I swear to god it isnt me :)
it ain't remo either.
There are only a select few that make the NFA statement though, so its a short list.
I post with my main, always.
Whoever said that IMP is fighting BoB in syndicate, that's news to me. I've been in syndicate helping our allies, and I only saw 1 bob destroyer, and 1 inty. The destroyer pilot didnt live long enough to pee in his pants.
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Zel0ta
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Posted - 2005.02.09 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zel0ta on 09/02/2005 00:10:54
eh fa consists of (psychicks,people that will make your life beter,fongsuey house arangement specialists,therapists and more.Its not un usual they make up some stuff to save there own ass.So dont fall for this FOWL propaganda its made for people that want to beleve it to think its true!!
and that i swear thing.OMG look how happy he is.That is to make you people beleve him.
I havent slept for 32 HOURS NOW but im on my pills BUT 32 HOURS WOHOO im doing.....GREAT! |
Arimas Talasko
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Posted - 2005.02.09 00:30:00 -
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Why is Zelota uglier now, what's with the 0, too 
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Stained
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Posted - 2005.02.09 02:07:00 -
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Wow, Kayo > Aneu.
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.09 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Gozer
Originally by: DB Preacher
G have only just come down so it remains to be seen what they are going to do *chortle*.
thanks dbp! i just managed to spray my cup of tea out of my nose all over my desk at work.. i'm now getting odd stares.
funniest thing i've read all day.
well, we felt the need to log out in some new systems for a change
like 12 of your bs pilots yesterday 
clicky
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.09 09:16:00 -
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What was the G friendly and enemy ship count this time then fuffel... come on, give us all a good laugh ;)
dbp
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.09 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
What was the G friendly and enemy ship count this time then fuffel... come on, give us all a good laugh ;)
dbp
you had 3bs and lost 10
we had around 120bs(+/-45) and lost 2
thats why you attacked us, because you knew you would loose and you love to waste ships, just to show the world how much you dont care for material things
infact all of our pilots hit "ESC" the moment the battle started, but it was to late.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.09 10:36:00 -
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That sounds just about correct for once.
Congrats, have a teacake.
dbp
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.09 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 09/02/2005 12:43:50
Originally by: Fuffel
Originally by: Gozer
Originally by: DB Preacher
G have only just come down so it remains to be seen what they are going to do *chortle*.
thanks dbp! i just managed to spray my cup of tea out of my nose all over my desk at work.. i'm now getting odd stares.
funniest thing i've read all day.
well, we felt the need to log out in some new systems for a change
like 12 of your bs pilots yesterday
clicky
The day before yesterday, our force of 21 battleships jumped in (!) to your force of 28 battleships. we killed 6 battleships, lost none.
Yesterday our forces tried to do a similar thing, but unfortunately it was less successful.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.02.09 12:50:00 -
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wow G won a fleetbattle. Thats something to celebrate !
Ironically, if you check the killmails, you will find that no FA was involved in those battles. Seems they rely purely now on their paid lackies to safe delve :D
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.09 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
The day before yesterday, our force of 21 battleships jumped in (!) to your force of 28 battleships. we killed 6 battleships, lost none.
Yesterday our forces tried to do a similar thing, but unfortunately it was less successful.
That is what so far has happened fleetbattle wise.
If we leave out the 4vs6 where you lost another 3bs, yes thats about it.
Anyway, when we look at the situation...here the hundreds top pvp guys (+bnc) that is BoB and on the other side the small, amateur group (that cant even afford more than a single letter for its name) that is g...
that score is ok with me 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.09 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/02/2005 13:29:35
You're biggest problem fuffel is that you always spurt far too quickly onto the forums.
You should stop, breathe and give the dust time to settle.
Killing a bunch of our BS when you are outnumbering us doesn't mean **** to us... as well you know.
Oh and if you REALLY want to start throwing EVERY SINGLE SCRAP around then go check your losses today sonny.... but honestly, who gives a ****?
You can't take us down. You can't save Fountain. All you can do is die or log... oh and eventually run away.
dbp
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.02.09 13:28:00 -
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If we leave out the 4vs6 where you lost another 3bs, yes thats about it.
Anyway, when we look at the situation...here the hundreds top pvp guys (+bnc) that is BoB and on the other side the small, amateur group (that cant even afford more than a single letter for its name) that is g...
that score is ok with me
Come'on Preacher you have to admit that last sentence was really humerous ... grats Fuffel 
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.09 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/02/2005 13:29:35
You're biggest problem fuffel is that you always spurt far too quickly onto the forums.
sure you talk about me?
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Oh and if you REALLY want to start throwing EVERY SINGLE SCRAP around then go check your losses today sonny.... but honestly, who gives a ****?
dbp
I did, so you killed 4 bs while we killed 6..and? its a small war and "waiting till the dust settles"? anyone planing a funeral soon?
Dont understand you guys, first you moan that nobody puts up a fight and now we got around 30bs blown up in 1-2 days, still all you write is - "go home you cant do anything" ?
are you talking about some kind of meta fighting stuff, testserver maybe? 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.09 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/02/2005 14:36:08
you killed 6?
funny, I only see 1 loss on our KB.
Or maybe you went and killed some of Shinra? ah Yes, that would be the case...
Well then, I guess if you are counting every BS kill yo get as a kill against us, then we should do the same?
I mean that's about 188 against your 30?
You can flip and dance all ya want but if you wanna be someone in the game, you better not go running away from Delve this time.
The fun is only just getting started.
Keeeeeep on spurting fuffel, I do so love wasting your time.
dbp
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arjun
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Posted - 2005.02.09 14:40:00 -
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http://www.killboard.net/G/?p=stats_isk
not included there: nemesis, krom, shinra, die
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.09 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Fuffel on 09/02/2005 14:42:37
thats the spirit!
and yes, we do count guys in your gang as... well, guys in your gang?
(thats the opposite of "in our gang" aka most likly not shooting at me during the battle)
what do you call shinra? BoBs soft underbelly?
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2005.02.09 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/02/2005 14:36:08
you killed 6?
funny, I only see 1 loss on our KB.
Or maybe you went and killed some of Shinra? ah Yes, that would be the case...
Well then, I guess if you are counting every BS kill yo get as a kill against us, then we should do the same?
I mean that's about 188 against your 30?
You can flip and dance all ya want but if you wanna be someone in the game, you better not go running away from Delve this time.
The fun is only just getting started.
Keeeeeep on spurting fuffel, I do so love wasting your time.
dbp
is this so dbp?
so can u explain why shinra kills are taken as BoB kills at your own bord?
look here
or here
isnt this interresting?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.09 14:59:00 -
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I wish I could come up with 3 month old circular arguments like you guys do.
dbp
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.09 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Fuffel
Edited by: Fuffel on 09/02/2005 14:42:37
thats the spirit!
and yes, we do count guys in your gang as... well, guys in your gang?
(thats the opposite of "in our gang" aka most likly not shooting at me during the battle)
what do you call shinra? BoBs soft underbelly?
Call us your enemy, foe, opponent, call us your undertaker.
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.09 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
I wish I could come up with 3 month old circular arguments like you guys do.
dbp
I¦d bet you wish you could come up with some answers, after 3 months...
Its your killboard and a very nice one I may add, so its your decision what to put on it.
I get used to not finding 40-60% of all the kills we make vs you on that board.
No biggy, as we know what ships blew up and I guess for BoB its easier to hide the groupies - just in case you might want to blow them up yourselfs later... *g*
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.09 15:15:00 -
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c u in another week with the same rubbish when you kill another bob bs.
dbp
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.09 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 09/02/2005 16:04:54
Originally by: Fuffel
I get used to not finding 40-60% of all the kills we make vs you on that board.
That is indeed a verrry old argument. I thought everyone agreed by now that our killboard is pretty accurate.
About not having the losses listed from corporations that are friendly to us:
Lets make a deal, you add the losses from the alliances/corps you fight/fought with (PA, FA, whoever) and we will add the losses from the corporations we are friendly with. |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.02.09 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Lets make a deal, you add the losses from the alliances/corps you fight/fought with (PA, FA, whoever) and we will add the losses from the corporations we are friendly with.
hehe, good one, twd.
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arjun
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Posted - 2005.02.09 16:37:00 -
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we are 5 corps bob are some corps too. should be comparable i think. what have other alliances to do with that?
twd i admit that the bob killboard is quite acurate when bob losses are concerned.
not correct though is the fact that non bob kills are included in the board but not the losses. for instance shinra fights with bob vs g. shinra kills show up in the killboard but not a single one of the losses. today and yesterday: 18 bob/shinra bs deads by g. 5 g bs deads by bob/shinra. . 3 of those bob/shinra kills on your board were with final blow by a shinra pilot. still they show up. but none of the 9 shinra deads.
in my opinion thats a good way to let look your numbers nice. dont u think?
Pegas Shinra SNRA Megathron 5-6QW7 no 09.02.2005 13:02 GMT
Morealis Reikoku RKK Megathron 5-6QW7 no 09.02.2005 12:49 GMT
w00rtex Shinra SNRA Scorpion 5-6QW7 no 09.02.2005 12:49 GMT
Graph ro Shinra SNRA Scorpion 5-6QW7 no 09.02.2005 12:08 GMT
lazio Shinra SNRA Scorpion 5-6QW7 no 09.02.2005 12:08 GMT
Allexa Shinra SNRA Raven 5-6QW7 no 09.02.2005 12:07 GMT
The Ratfink Shinra SNRA Apocalypse 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:51 GMT
Lallante Shinra SNRA Apocalypse 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:34 GMT
Guillaume Evolution EVOL Tempest 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:31 GMT
Razor Jaxx Black Nova Corp BNC Apocalypse 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:30 GMT
Grimster Reikoku RKK Thrasher 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:30 GMT
Casius Evolution EVOL Apocalypse 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:29 GMT
Cassiopee Evolution EVOL Tempest 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:29 GMT
Chowdown Shinra SNRA Megathron 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:28 GMT
dimensionZ Reikoku RKK Apocalypse 31X-RE no 08.02.2005 22:28 GMT
Nightjester Reikoku RKK Raven 31X-RE yes 08.02.2005 22:24 GMT
GoranMortok Shinra SNRA Apocalypse F-9PXR no 08.02.2005 14:00 GMT
Val Duane Rough-Necks Inc RN Scorpion F-9PXR no 08.02.2005 13:59 GMT
Rohann Black Nova Corp BNC Apocalypse F-9PXR no 08.02.2005 13:59 GMT
ok im off to work. lets stop this flaming here see u in space
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WildCard
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Posted - 2005.02.09 16:42:00 -
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Well as [G] mostly fights allone vs BoB , its a serios problem for the stats that BoB is with SHINRA , DIE,KR0M,-NM-,YAK and a few others, which are hiding behind the BOB shoulder. So the Kill-Borad isn't able to reflect the 100% right numbers.
The BoB Kills/Losses are pretty correct. What we realy miss are the losses from the others which are usual higher then the BoB core looses.(BOB's Fleet are mosty 1/3 BOB core 2/3 BOB followers). (Ok, I understand, that each BoB needs his points.)
Well, as workaround we should always call BoB-Core as Primary's
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.02.09 17:49:00 -
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Pointless arguement to be having on the forums.
You think we suck.
We think you suck.
See you in game.
Eve Blacklight Style
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.09 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 09/02/2005 18:16:13
Onoes, a list!
Check the top of the following list:
kills 2 days ago
That was a combined G/FA fleet.
If you count other people than BoB in your list, it would only be fair to count FA losses as well. (since the arrival of G on 6 februari)
You'll see that we have not lost more than we killed. (including friendly pilots in our gangs)
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the fact that non bob kills are included in the board but not the losses.
True, but the BoB pilots that participated in killing the ship deserve that the kill is added to the list.
When you click on the alliance tabs you will see that those kills are filtered out. Only kills where a BoB member had the final blow will be counted there. |
Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.09 18:16:00 -
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G just make your kill list public and people can check themselfs
Wanna fly with me?
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2005.02.09 23:56:00 -
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So I guess before we all slap our schlongs on the table can we agree the answer to the original poster is no then 
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.02.10 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
So I guess before we all slap our schlongs on the table can we agree the answer to the original poster is no then
ummmm, what was the original posters question?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.02.10 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Iratus Caelestis
So I guess before we all slap our schlongs on the table can we agree the answer to the original poster is no then
ummmm, what was the original posters question?
must be something about posting killmails
Wanna fly with me?
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Elisium Dammar
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Posted - 2005.02.10 09:12:00 -
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Did G log on again?...
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WildCard
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: WildCard on 10/02/2005 10:05:46
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You think we suck.
So, relay. Did i wrote that? I think not.
Dunno what happed to you in the forum. Well there are some ppl, which write correct (mostly the better players), and there are lots of forum warriors. (mostly the... umm ok)
I relay donĘt know why some people go so badly overboard here.
And I donĘt care what you believe or not. [G] logs off always. Ok, no problem, just jump in and find out. That makes it much more easy for us. You will not be the first one, which is surprised after that.
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: WildCard
Well as [G] mostly fights allone vs BoB , its a serios problem for the stats that BoB is with SHINRA , DIE,KR0M,-NM-,YAK and a few others, which are hiding behind the BOB shoulder. So the Kill-Borad isn't able to reflect the 100% right numbers.
The BoB Kills/Losses are pretty correct. What we realy miss are the losses from the others which are usual higher then the BoB core looses.(BOB's Fleet are mosty 1/3 BOB core 2/3 BOB followers). (Ok, I understand, that each BoB needs his points.)
Well, as workaround we should always call BoB-Core as Primary's
Errm.. we dont hide behind anyones sholders. You can see our kills/losses on www.eve-kills.com
Now what?
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WildCard
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:35:00 -
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Ok, last Reply for this Post.
The difference between [G] and BoB is:
[G] kills only people which appear red. (atm BoB only)
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: WildCard
Ok, last Reply for this Post.
The difference between [G] and BoB is:
[G] kills only people which appear red. (atm BoB only)
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
That's incorrect WildCard. Evolution has always had a policy to only shoot people who are -10 and ignore those we have no standing towards until they fire upon us.
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: WildCard
Ok, last Reply for this Post.
The difference between [G] and BoB is:
[G] kills only people which appear red. (atm BoB only)
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
Evil pirats.. god damit i knew i was right.
There is no innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Only we are Righteous.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.10 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: WildCard
Ok, last Reply for this Post.
The difference between [G] and BoB is:
[G] kills only people which appear red. (atm BoB only)
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
Lies.
Only a month or so ago, G were involved in killing VOTF in PF-346 while they were blue.
Reikoku shoot anyone -10, people who agress us and idiots.
We have more kills on our list because we kill more people.
It's not rocket science that last part.
dbp
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 10/02/2005 11:04:00
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: WildCard
Ok, last Reply for this Post.
The difference between [G] and BoB is:
[G] kills only people which appear red. (atm BoB only)
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
Lies.
Only a month or so ago, G were involved in killing VOTF in PF-346 while they were blue.
Reikoku shoot anyone -10, people who agress us and idiots.
We have more kills on our list because we kill more people.
It's not rocket science that last part.
dbp
Were they? Now that is somthing i dont re-call... i rememmber a while back when [G] wasnt formed and there were hostilities between STV and VOTF but that was quite a while ago now...
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2005.02.10 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
True, but the BoB pilots that participated in killing the ship deserve that the kill is added to the list.
When you click on the alliance tabs you will see that those kills are filtered out. Only kills where a BoB member had the final blow will be counted there.
If you dont see the problem with this, let me explain.
A (fictionõry) fleetbattle 5 bob + 10 friends of bob vs 15 g
all bob pilots get out alive
all 10 of your allies loose their ship
and we loose 7 ships (all with a final blow from bob pilots)
could you tell me, what we would see on your killboard?
as you are no real alliance, wouldnt it be possible to "adopt" the outsider pilots in your engagements?
your writing about "what the bob pilots deserve for their participation" - what do the other corps deserve when dying for your goals?
and, as this fine killboard is widly used as a source of information with it comes the duty to keep it as close to the thruth as possible
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Akan
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Posted - 2005.02.10 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: ElectroSister4
Errm.. we dont hide behind anyones sholders. You can see our kills/losses on www.eve-kills.com
Now what?
Same here. u can check Nemesis kills/losses on :
www.eve-kills.com (which regroups a lot of eve kills)
Nemesis Kill List
Just do some research as on this thread : EVE Corporations, Alliances and Organisations - Website Links and u could find other boards...
kthxbye
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.10 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus
Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 10/02/2005 11:04:00
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: WildCard
Ok, last Reply for this Post.
The difference between [G] and BoB is:
[G] kills only people which appear red. (atm BoB only)
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
Lies.
Only a month or so ago, G were involved in killing VOTF in PF-346 while they were blue.
Reikoku shoot anyone -10, people who agress us and idiots.
We have more kills on our list because we kill more people.
It's not rocket science that last part.
dbp
Were they? Now that is somthing i dont re-call... i rememmber a while back when [G] wasnt formed and there were hostilities between STV and VOTF but that was quite a while ago now...
You are correct actually, it was as G was being formed that it happened.
However, it wasn't the STV hostilites I was talking about. It was when CE announced to PA they were leaving the alliance, not by actually *telling* them or anything silly like that but by destroying several VOTF ships (who they had as blue at the time) in PF-346.
I'd go and pull up the thread but I'd rather go watch 3 CE frigs sitting logging on and off in 5-6.
No honest I would.
dbp
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.02.10 12:43:00 -
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Even facing the danger of stating the obvious ill repeat it again for the slower kids amongst us.
The killboard is the public killboard of bob.
-It logs OUR kills (including kills we particpated in)
-It logs OUR deaths (pilots of the 5 corps commonly known as bob)
-It ranks OUR pilots with a pointsystem.
The board is -not- a measurement for any non bob corp and purely displays the involvement of OUR pilots in kills.
Who laid the final blow is only a statistical measurement and by gamemechanics totally random.
Killmails must included atleast -1- of our pilots to be added.
All other corps, including G have their own method of saving their kills.
We do -not- save kills of friendlies or deaths of friendlies as they are -not- part of bob and hence not part of our documentation.
To the aim of our killboard:
It is a pretty accurate form to display the activities of OUR MEMBERS. It shows kills and deaths. Nothing more nothing less. If you wish to add a story to each kill, be our guest. However that is not the purpose of a statistical killboard.
Last but not least the fleets you mention with only 30% bob and 70% friendlies sadly dont match the majority of kills, especially those concerning G. This either suggests you are balantly lying or not very good with numbers. (Unless you want to claim that the friendlies in our fleets just get shot and dont participate in the kills in any way or form)
As a final conclusion you seem to be very concerned about the public only hearing one side of the story. I suggest if you want to change that and showoff abit, you start opening your own public (and ofc accurate) killboard so the neutral reader can compare both and see the "big picture" and the xx hundred of "bob friendly" kills you are so desperate to prove.
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.10 12:57:00 -
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Quote:
BoB and BoB puppets kills all which donĘt appear blue.
So I guess you have a little bit more kills in your list.
I believe M0o is the only BoB corp that shoots everyone.
We have many enemy's, and have engagements at different places in the eve galaxy.
We get many kills.
Originally by: Fuffel
could you tell me, what we would see on your killboard?
Click on the alliance tabs, it is filtered out there. |
Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
...The killboard is the public killboard of bob.
-It logs OUR kills (including kills we particpated in)
-It logs OUR deaths (pilots of the 5 corps commonly known as bob)
-It ranks OUR pilots with a pointsystem.
The board is -not- a measurement for any non bob corp and purely displays the involvement of OUR pilots in kills.
Check eve-kills for Kr0m/DIE kills and deaths, -NM- have their own kill-boards on their personal web-site, as do -YAK-
Personally speaking, if you have a Kr0m kill mail that is NOT posted on eve-kills forward it to me, and i'll get it posted.
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Akan
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rift Scorn
if you have a Kr0m kill mail that is NOT posted on eve-kills forward it to me, and i'll get it posted.
same for Nemesis, we r tracking non posted losses but u can send them to me, evecrumble and well get them posted
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:23:00 -
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This is getting rather pointless now.
Each side has self pride, and each side wont post ALL its deaths, its a fact. I dont care if TWD comes on and proclaims that god himself makes sure of it... because... bob doesnt post all its deaths.
No one will, no one EVER will... get over it.
Aneu
P.S heres hoping to an official eve death list huh?
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:31:00 -
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And please post the losses of your ships made by kr0m too thats missing on eve-kills.com. I know theres alot out there!
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pHASE 11
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Posted - 2005.02.10 13:43:00 -
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There's exists a need to argue about this again?
The difference is that BoB and most BoB friendly corps actively encourage and require all their members to post their losses too. Additionally instead of pointing fingers on the forum you have the option of mailing the kill mail to the corp CEO so they can post it and spank the corp member who fail to comply with policies.
No, we will probably never have 100%, but we intend to be as close as possible which is a lot more than can be said about some other corps.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: ElectroSister4
Kids! Go to bed if you cant behave like normal people. Its a game remember?
Sorry mum...
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Aneu Angellus
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ElectroSister4
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:27:00 -
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Kids! Go to bed if you cant behave like normal people. Its a game remember?
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Calderio
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:29:00 -
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i think we got a little off topic here, this thread was originally about
Quote:
Any truth behind the rumours that the NFA, Imp, G and Celestial Apoc are teaming up to defend the fountain core systems after a retreat from non-npc regions by the NFA?
not weather or not someone has screenys of themselfs eating flintstones kids vitamines in the morning. as for the question that the alt was asking, im pretty sure it got answered by the second page.
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Schroni
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Posted - 2005.02.10 14:50:00 -
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roflcopters! all over the place!
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Aeoluz
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
The killboard is the public killboard of bob.
-It logs OUR kills (including kills we particpated in)
-It logs OUR deaths (pilots of the 5 corps commonly known as bob)
...
As a final conclusion you seem to be very concerned about the public only hearing one side of the story. I suggest if you want to change that and showoff abit, you start opening your own public (and ofc accurate) killboard so the neutral reader can compare both and see the "big picture" and the xx hundred of "bob friendly" kills you are so desperate to prove.
I am sure all the killboards are correct. And unless they include all parties in the conflict, they overstate any claims of victory.
This can be proved with a small example.
BoB, NM, and KROM have a fleet battle against FA and G
Both sides kill 10 ships
BoB loses 3, NM 3, and KROM 4
FA loses 5, and G loses 5
FA pilots are listed on 8 of the mails of received of enemy kills. BoB pilots are listed on 8 kills from the FA and G combined losses; G, KROM and NM also find their way on 8 of the 10 enemy kills.
BoB's killboard presents a one-sided vitory - 8 kills, 3 losses. FA reports 8 kills, 5 losses. KROM look like they killed 8 and lost 4. And so on.
This is an example of an even battle, where everyone can legitimately show that they have won. If you believe killboards.
ALL your killboards are going to misrepresent the status of the conflict, so to use them as literal proof of victory is propoganda, even though I am sure this is unintentional.
A
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2005.02.10 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: Scythmar on 10/02/2005 18:49:53
Aneu you're just as lame as the stupid alt...stop responding to him...God...
Not one more quote out of either of you now... 
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.02.10 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Aeoluz
I am sure all the killboards are correct. And unless they include all parties in the conflict, they overstate any claims of victory.
This can be proved with a small example.
BoB, NM, and KROM have a fleet battle against FA and G
Both sides kill 10 ships
BoB loses 3, NM 3, and KROM 4
FA loses 5, and G loses 5
FA pilots are listed on 8 of the mails of received of enemy kills. BoB pilots are listed on 8 kills from the FA and G combined losses; G, KROM and NM also find their way on 8 of the 10 enemy kills.
BoB's killboard presents a one-sided vitory - 8 kills, 3 losses. FA reports 8 kills, 5 losses. KROM look like they killed 8 and lost 4. And so on.
This is an example of an even battle, where everyone can legitimately show that they have won. If you believe killboards.
ALL your killboards are going to misrepresent the status of the conflict, so to use them as literal proof of victory is propoganda, even though I am sure this is unintentional.
A
Any killboard is by its own purpose a tool of documentation.
Noone forces you to view it, noone forces you to make assumptions from it.
It displays the doings of our small group. Documents which battles we participated in and which kills/losses we were involved in. That is the whole and only purpose.
Reading the statements of dbp above, he talked about our -bob's- losses not "everyone and his dog fighting fa" (to exaggerate abit).
Fa did a good job in making alot of enemies, do we have to account for those ? Even for battles we might fight together with them or conflicts within the same regions ?
You will find a no as the only possible answer.
Does Fountain log on their killboard G deaths and vice versa ? No. Fact is they dont have a public board.
Our board is public so ppl who are interested in it can have a look and in case of debate we can present something, however you will not find a disclaimer that our board represents "eve regional history" or gives any evaluating how a conflict goes or who loses or wins. It states simple facts (which are gathered under quiet simple rules known to everyone who visits our killboard) who got killed where and who of bob (the 5 corps at the top) was involved.
If a person is interested in how a conflict goes the person will most likely have to do more then just clicking refresh on a webpage to find all his answers. What and how he does that is not our business and not in our mind either. Easiest, like many times already suggested would be an ingame killsystem or comparing killboards of the involved parties (multiple alliance boards etc) to make up your mind.
This would require G and FA to present their own killboards to the public, otherwise its rather moot for them to moan and discuss about the rather onesided view our killboard can offer. Sounds simple eh ?
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2005.02.10 23:00:00 -
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I wonder who the Alliance Dan of this page is.
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Jacques Archambault
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Posted - 2005.02.10 23:35:00 -
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Thread cleaned.
Please stay on topic and refrain from flaming/trolling.
Thank you!
- Jacques
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Arekuwa
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Posted - 2005.02.11 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Arekuwa on 11/02/2005 03:28:02
While we're at it... who can spot the BoB members on those kill mails or have Yakuza suddenly joined BoB but without feeling obliged to post their losses as well?
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16805
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16804
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16798
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.11 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 11/02/2005 03:34:47
Originally by: Arekuwa
Edited by: Arekuwa on 11/02/2005 03:28:02
While we're at it... who can spot the BoB members on those kill mails or have Yakuza suddenly joined BoB but without feeling obliged to post their losses as well?
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16805
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16804
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16798
Heh, those kills should indeed not be there. I'm sure they will be removed soon. |
Galavet
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Posted - 2005.02.11 03:49:00 -
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It will be removed from the Database within 24 hours. Kills from other corps with no BoB participation should not be posted.
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Eidolon
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Posted - 2005.02.11 06:53:00 -
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First and last comment from me:
Lets have a look at the fantastic BoB killboard:
G Losses (2,936,649,766 ISK)
BoB Losses (5,479,407,480 ISK)
that says: we have the longest
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.11 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 11/02/2005 08:26:13
Originally by: Arekuwa
Edited by: Arekuwa on 11/02/2005 03:28:02
While we're at it... who can spot the BoB members on those kill mails or have Yakuza suddenly joined BoB but without feeling obliged to post their losses as well?
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16805
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16804
http://www.killboard.net/?p=details&id=16798
Basically, and not that it's any of your business at all, but I put them straight after the fight to work out exactly what the kills/losses were. They were to be removed afterwards but I forgot.
How about you spend more time coming out of your safespot and doing something than watching our killboard all night while we fight real men like the FIX guys, hmmm?
Or are you just too scared?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Jeebs
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Posted - 2005.02.12 02:26:00 -
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IBTL!
killmails, isk, ships, its all relative... but not to this thread!
I would still like to know more about these rumours and I have yet to see anyone confirm or deny anything.
(\_/)
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.12 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Eidolon
First and last comment from me:
Lets have a look at the fantastic BoB killboard:
G Losses (2,936,649,766 ISK)
BoB Losses (5,479,407,480 ISK)
that says: we have the longest
When comparing to:
PA Losses (61,364,894,110 ISK)
BoB Losses (27,466,284,132 ISK)
soz you're just a small fish |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.02.12 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Eidolon
First and last comment from me:
Lets have a look at the fantastic BoB killboard:
G Losses (2,936,649,766 ISK)
BoB Losses (5,479,407,480 ISK)
that says: we have the longest
When comparing to:
PA Losses (61,364,894,110 ISK)
BoB Losses (27,466,284,132 ISK)
soz you're just a small fish
looooooooooooooooool
5.4 billion?
RKK have ****ed more than that away in named modules doing agent missions in the last fortnight.
oh man, that's just too funny.
Can you say "in-sig-nif-i-CANT"?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Urmel
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Posted - 2005.02.12 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: TWD
Originally by: Eidolon
First and last comment from me:
Lets have a look at the fantastic BoB killboard:
G Losses (2,936,649,766 ISK)
BoB Losses (5,479,407,480 ISK)
that says: we have the longest
When comparing to:
PA Losses (61,364,894,110 ISK)
BoB Losses (27,466,284,132 ISK)
soz you're just a small fish
looooooooooooooooool
5.4 billion?
RKK have ****ed more than that away in named modules doing agent missions in the last fortnight.
oh man, that's just too funny.
Can you say "in-sig-nif-i-CANT"?
dbp
Just quoted to show your desperation
Or do you really don¦t understand what these numbers stand for?
Even on your boards, you dont look that good vs the small fish
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TWD
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Posted - 2005.02.12 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 12/02/2005 15:26:21
Originally by: urmel
Or do you really don¦t understand what these numbers stand for?
Even on your boards, you dont look that good vs the small fish ugh
It means that G inflicted more damage upon BoB, than we did on them.
Does it mean anything else? Not really.
Is it only a small fraction of the total amount of kills/losses we have against the enemy's we daily fight? Yes. |
Lorth
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Posted - 2005.02.20 07:08:00 -
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I came in at page 4, read every post and am 99% certain this is just a poorly titled topic about the BOB kill board.
I'll say this. Its accurate, mostly, anything relying on human input, and humans admiting they lost, tends to fail at somepoint. But its probably the most accurate kill board out there save for the one on CCP database.
Secondly, who cares. Both sides know whats happening in game. Doesn't matter who posts what on a seperate web site, jeez guys.
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