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stoicfaux 1530	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:18:00 - [31] - Quote Ivy Romanova wrote: Why must women present their boobs like offerings to the baby Jesus , and Men have to be powerful and strong and be the one in charge? Because most of the Eve's players are Americans (that's United States for you metric people.) Why do Americans think men should be strong and women should be heavily ornamented? Well, it's like this: * women are ~50% of the US population * in Congress, our representative body, women comprise ~17% of our legislators * the US is a predominately Christian nation * the US has a two party system and one party is rather conservative and has a fundamentalist view of Christianity * fundamentalist Christianity prefers/teaches that women should be subservient (i.e. defer) to men * men have one hormone and not enough blood flow to support two brains So if a US woman wants to change something, she * can run for office, but that's not encouraged due to a culture women deferring to men and that whole choosing between a career and motherhood dilemma. * she can convince a man to do what she wants, * she can stay in the kitchen making sandwiches and otherwise trust a man to understand her needs well enough to represent her (i.e. rely on men reading women's minds.) Ergo, women generally have to express power via a proxy, which means controlling the proxy, which means boobies. tl;dr - blame America. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 556	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:25:00 - [32] - Quote Ivy Romanova wrote: Why must women present their boobs like offerings to the baby Jesus , and Men have to be powerful and strong and be the one in charge? I guess this had to happen sooner or later.... thing is please don't blame CCP for what the sandbox does with their Play-Doh, CCP didn't create sexist avatars or avatars made in otherwise poor taste, we did. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:37:00 - [33] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Now that's how you troll. You almost sound like you truly believe in what you type. Bravo, Sir. I do ! lol This ain't about women ... it's about idiots believing that all humans should be equal, leading to all humans being equally dumb, because it's the dumb ones being offended the most ! CaterIng to the lowest common demonominator will be the death of our species. This is one reason Idiocracy is one of my favorite movies; seems almost prophetic. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 408	Posted - 2012.09.02 15:44:00 - [34] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: Solstice Project wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Now that's how you troll. You almost sound like you truly believe in what you type. Bravo, Sir. I do ! lol This ain't about women ... it's about idiots believing that all humans should be equal, leading to all humans being equally dumb, because it's the dumb ones being offended the most ! CaterIng to the lowest common demonominator will be the death of our species. This is one reason Idiocracy is one of my favorite movies; seems almost prophetic. I don't know about that. It might be the death of our current civilization, but I'm pretty sure us being the dominant species on Earth has shown that caring for even the dumbest specimen is a winning strategy - as far as survival of the species as a whole. Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:08:00 - [35] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Solstice Project wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Now that's how you troll. You almost sound like you truly believe in what you type. Bravo, Sir. I do ! lol This ain't about women ... it's about idiots believing that all humans should be equal, leading to all humans being equally dumb, because it's the dumb ones being offended the most ! CaterIng to the lowest common demonominator will be the death of our species. This is one reason Idiocracy is one of my favorite movies; seems almost prophetic. I don't know about that. It might be the death of our current civilization, but I'm pretty sure us being the dominant species on Earth has shown that caring for even the dumbest specimen is a winning strategy - as far as survival of the species as a whole goes. I'd argue that caring for the weakest among us is a relatively new trait to our species, so let's not jump to conclusions on that. Lol You are probably right, it could be the death of our civilization, not necessarily our species; although I will argue our intelligence is the factor that makes us the dominate species, so if we lose that, what is to stop the ants from taking over? "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Solaris Ecladia High Flyers RED.OverLord 21	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:18:00 - [36] - Quote You guys act like women play this game enough for it to matter in the slightest...
Mars Theran Caldari Provisions Caldari State 267	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:20:00 - [37] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: Ivy Romanova wrote: Why must women present their boobs like offerings to the baby Jesus , and Men have to be powerful and strong and be the one in charge? I guess this had to happen sooner or later.... thing is please don't blame CCP for what the sandbox does with their Play-Doh, CCP didn't create sexist avatars or avatars made in otherwise poor taste, we did. Pretty much this. CCP created hundreds of variations for every part of their avatars, which can be used--with limitation--in a variety of ways to create a rather splendid variety of characters and archetypes. What people do with them is only telling about their personal tastes, not CCPs intent with regard to how they use them. I kind of like the Airforce Officer look for women, if you want in Charge. I believe it's Caldari. I could always make a large-in-charge women for you if you want it proven possible. The only thing I didn't really like was that they made women look to weak in that they can't really achieve proper muscle definition and tone and always look kind of soft. Granted, that is somewhat normal in some places, but actually it's not really that uncommon for women to be in quite good shape. Mind you, it's really quite irrelevent provided they are wearing clothes. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away.
baltec1 Bat Country 2011	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:22:00 - [38] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: I'd argue that caring for the weakest among us is a relatively new trait to our species, so let's not jump to conclusions on that. Lol You are probably right, it could be the death of our civilization, not necessarily our species; although I will argue our intelligence is the factor that makes us the dominate species, so if we lose that, what is to stop the ants from taking over? Magnifying Glasses.
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:22:00 - [39] - Quote Solaris Ecladia wrote: You guys act like women play this game enough for it to matter in the slightest... What is this wo-Men you speak of? "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:23:00 - [40] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: I'd argue that caring for the weakest among us is a relatively new trait to our species, so let's not jump to conclusions on that. Lol You are probably right, it could be the death of our civilization, not necessarily our species; although I will argue our intelligence is the factor that makes us the dominate species, so if we lose that, what is to stop the ants from taking over? Magnifying Glasses. Touch+¬! "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Tor Gungnir Agenda Industries 409	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:25:00 - [41] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Solstice Project wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Now that's how you troll. You almost sound like you truly believe in what you type. Bravo, Sir. I do ! lol This ain't about women ... it's about idiots believing that all humans should be equal, leading to all humans being equally dumb, because it's the dumb ones being offended the most ! CaterIng to the lowest common demonominator will be the death of our species. This is one reason Idiocracy is one of my favorite movies; seems almost prophetic. I don't know about that. It might be the death of our current civilization, but I'm pretty sure us being the dominant species on Earth has shown that caring for even the dumbest specimen is a winning strategy - as far as survival of the species as a whole goes. I'd argue that caring for the weakest among us is a relatively new trait to our species, so let's not jump to conclusions on that. Lol You are probably right, it could be the death of our civilization, not necessarily our species; although I will argue our intelligence is the factor that makes us the dominate species, so if we lose that, what is to stop the ants from taking over? Look at a group of Chimpanzee or Gorillas. They will not abandon an old member of their pack or the sick. They will care for it. Would be pretty safe to say that early man also cared for members within their social group like that. What happens, to let's say, a sick or old Zebra? It will get targeted by the lions and the rest of the Zebras will be happy it wasn't they who got eaten. They don't defend or care for the sick specimen. If they could, they'd probably trip the sick Zebra or something when the lions charge at them, lol Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Solaris Ecladia High Flyers RED.OverLord 21	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:28:00 - [42] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: Solaris Ecladia wrote: You guys act like women play this game enough for it to matter in the slightest... What is this wo-Men you speak of? its like a man, but bitchy and whiny like miners in highsec. also they have boobs and no *****. some say its a mystery where they came from, but i just try to figure out why they get mad when i smack them on the ass
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:40:00 - [43] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: Look at a group of Chimpanzee or Gorillas. They will not abandon an old member of their pack or the sick. They will care for it. Would be pretty safe to say that early man also cared for members within their social group like that. What happens, to let's say, a sick or old Zebra? It will get targeted by the lions and the rest of the Zebras will be happy it wasn't they who got eaten. They don't defend or care for the sick specimen. If they could, they'd probably trip the sick Zebra or something when the lions charge at them, lol I think we are talking about to different levels here. You are describing a family dynamic, and yes families caring for each other has shown to be effective. I'm talking more on societal level. Governments, Corporations, etc. our species has thrived on the aggressive and strong subjugating the weak; this is what drove advancement of our species, the strong taking from the weak. I used to be a person that thought everyone deserves a chance and we should care for everybody; but after spending time in the world, I've learned people become dependent on others to care for them way to easily. Give a man a fish... As I've aged and gained experience, I've seen that caring for the weak only keeps them weak; when the weak are forced to fight to survive, they can then become strong... I won't kid you though, I don't claim to be one of the strong... "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:42:00 - [44] - Quote Solaris Ecladia wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Solaris Ecladia wrote: You guys act like women play this game enough for it to matter in the slightest... What is this wo-Men you speak of? its like a man, but bitchy and whiny like miners in highsec. also they have boobs and no *****. some say its a mystery where they came from, but i just try to figure out why they get mad when i smack them on the ass Lol, the fact you said that with a female avatar makes it the best...thank you for that. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Josef Djugashvilis The Scope Gallente Federation 512	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:48:00 - [45] - Quote Solstice Project wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Now that's how you troll. You almost sound like you truly believe in what you type. Bravo, Sir. I do ! lol This ain't about women ... it's about idiots believing that all humans should be equal, leading to all humans being equally dumb, because it's the dumb ones being offended the most ! I am too dumb to be offended. You want fries with that?
Josef Djugashvilis The Scope Gallente Federation 512	Posted - 2012.09.02 16:51:00 - [46] - Quote Where would say, Stephen Hawking fit into the strong/weak chain? You want fries with that?
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:03:00 - [47] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Where would say, Stephen Hawkings fit into the strong/weak chain? Good question. I'd place him in the strong. His intelligence grants him that strength. Compare Hawkings to your own local paraplegic, you will see Hawkings' strength provides him with a higher standard of living (assuming your local paraplegic is not the child of an extremely wealthy family that takes care of him/her). Of note, not all the strong need to subjugate the weak, however, the strong should not coddle the weak as well. Conflict and competition is what drives the weak to become strong. Some are born naturally stronger (actually part of the post that started this discussion), others have to struggle for it. Either way works, the strong should not be hamstringed to protect the weak. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Mars Theran Caldari Provisions Caldari State 268	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:09:00 - [48] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: Look at a group of Chimpanzee or Gorillas. They will not abandon an old member of their pack or the sick. They will care for it. Would be pretty safe to say that early man also cared for members within their social group like that. What happens, to let's say, a sick or old Zebra? It will get targeted by the lions and the rest of the Zebras will be happy it wasn't they who got eaten. They don't defend or care for the sick specimen. If they could, they'd probably trip the sick Zebra or something when the lions charge at them, lol I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us no very little about early man, especially when you consider that the common misconception is a man with a club over one shoulder hauling a women home on the other. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away.
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 125	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:15:00 - [49] - Quote Mars Theran wrote: Tor Gungnir wrote: Look at a group of Chimpanzee or Gorillas. They will not abandon an old member of their pack or the sick. They will care for it. Would be pretty safe to say that early man also cared for members within their social group like that. What happens, to let's say, a sick or old Zebra? It will get targeted by the lions and the rest of the Zebras will be happy it wasn't they who got eaten. They don't defend or care for the sick specimen. If they could, they'd probably trip the sick Zebra or something when the lions charge at them, lol I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us no very little about early man, especially when you consider that the common misconception is a man with a club over one shoulder hauling a women home on the other. I don't know about that, I've seen plenty of episodes of the Flintstones, think I have a pretty good idea of what it was like. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 561	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:21:00 - [50] - Quote You guys can have your Social Darwinism and rat races, I just wanna enjoy life. Who cares about strength and weakness if you're not even seeing the little wonders that make life worth living. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
Josef Djugashvilis The Scope Gallente Federation 513	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:43:00 - [51] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Of note, not all the strong need to subjugate the weak, however, the strong should not coddle the weak as well. Conflict and competition is what drives the weak to become strong. Some are born naturally stronger (actually part of the post that started this discussion), others have to struggle for it. Either way works, the strong should not be hamstringed to protect the weak. You guys can have your Social Darwinism and rat races, I just wanna enjoy life. Who cares about strength and weakness if one can't even see all the little wonders that make life worth living. Agreed good sir. I do my best to be fair and decent with everyone I know and come into contact with. If I fail, it is a lack of ability on my part rather than the desire to do anyone down. However, it never fails to amaze me, the number of people who mistake my desire to be nice to folk for weakness and lack of purpose in life. You want fries with that?
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 126	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:46:00 - [52] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Of note, not all the strong need to subjugate the weak, however, the strong should not coddle the weak as well. Conflict and competition is what drives the weak to become strong. Some are born naturally stronger (actually part of the post that started this discussion), others have to struggle for it. Either way works, the strong should not be hamstringed to protect the weak. You guys can have your Social Darwinism and rat races, I just wanna enjoy life. Who cares about strength and weakness if one can't even see all the little wonders that make life worth living. Ah apathy, ignorance's side kick in the downfall of our civilization. It's fine to not think about it and just enjoy life until someone tries to prevent you from enjoying life, then it becomes relevant and one wishes they took more of an interest in it. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
Lutaria Tichim Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.09.02 17:56:00 - [53] - Quote Tough and dominating enough for you?
Paul Oliver Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 561	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:10:00 - [54] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: Paul Oliver wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Of note, not all the strong need to subjugate the weak, however, the strong should not coddle the weak as well. Conflict and competition is what drives the weak to become strong. Some are born naturally stronger (actually part of the post that started this discussion), others have to struggle for it. Either way works, the strong should not be hamstringed to protect the weak. You guys can have your Social Darwinism and rat races, I just wanna enjoy life. Who cares about strength and weakness if one can't even see all the little wonders that make life worth living. Ah apathy, ignorance's side kick in the downfall of our civilization. It's fine to not think about it and just enjoy life until someone tries to prevent you from enjoying life, then it becomes relevant and one wishes they took more of an interest in it. Nah you got it all wrong, It's not apathetic to focus on the little wonders, rather it's about choosing to focus on what's really important instead of getting caught up in all the superficial crap modern society seems to shovel on the masses in order to keep them in a perpetual state of distraction and conflict. It's not about being apathetic at all, it's about taking a stand for the sake of one's sanity, and choosing not to play the social games of a society that has traded it's sense of decency and empathy, for a nihilistic pop culture of flavor of the moment crap. I'd rather laugh and go fishing, listen to the birds, and enjoy things that make this short and precious life worth the effort of putting up with all the crap humanity creates. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine
Abel Merkabah The Executioners Capital Punishment. 127	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:23:00 - [55] - Quote Paul Oliver wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Paul Oliver wrote: Abel Merkabah wrote: Of note, not all the strong need to subjugate the weak, however, the strong should not coddle the weak as well. Conflict and competition is what drives the weak to become strong. Some are born naturally stronger (actually part of the post that started this discussion), others have to struggle for it. Either way works, the strong should not be hamstringed to protect the weak. You guys can have your Social Darwinism and rat races, I just wanna enjoy life. Who cares about strength and weakness if one can't even see all the little wonders that make life worth living. Ah apathy, ignorance's side kick in the downfall of our civilization. It's fine to not think about it and just enjoy life until someone tries to prevent you from enjoying life, then it becomes relevant and one wishes they took more of an interest in it. Nah you got it all wrong, It's not apathetic to focus on the little wonders, rather it's about choosing to focus on what's really important instead of getting caught up in all the superficial crap modern society seems to shovel on the masses in order to keep them in a perpetual state of distraction and conflict. It's not about being apathetic at all, it's about taking a stand for the sake of one's sanity, and choosing not to play the social games of a society that has traded it's sense of decency and empathy, for a nihilistic pop culture of flavor of the moment crap. I'd rather laugh and go fishing, listen to the birds, and enjoy things that make this short and precious life worth the effort of putting up with all the crap humanity creates. I think we will have to agree to disagree on this. We do not live in isolated bubbles and ignoring the society around you is not the solution in my opinion. If current society is so horrible, why not fight to change it. Complacency is the same as commiting the acts yourself. Of course maybe I am misreading your post, and not fully understanding the intent. "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vacuuming systems."
stoicfaux 1533	Posted - 2012.09.02 18:46:00 - [56] - Quote Abel Merkabah wrote: Solaris Ecladia wrote: You guys act like women play this game enough for it to matter in the slightest... What is this wo-Men you speak of? It's ancient Hebrew for "woe [upon] man". You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Webvan State War Academy Caldari State 46	Posted - 2012.09.02 21:04:00 - [57] - Quote YEAH! The two women that play this game should be flabbergasted by the lack of diversity exhibited here! Mr. OP. <--- Doesn't care pose.

ISD TYPE40 ISD Community Communications Liaisons 130	Posted - 2012.09.02 21:19:00 - [58] - Quote Here's something that ISN'T sexist. It's a thread lock. Thread locked for trolling - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department


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