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Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:05:00 - [1] I've searched the forums and simply can't seem to find the answers I need which is... 1. What is the Max and Min distance from a moon you have to be to anchor a POS. 2. Do you have to anchor the POS at the moons standard warp in spot, or can you move around the moon to another location and anchor it there? 3. Why isn't this information available in the EVElopedia data as one would 'think' that this information would be pertinent to that data.
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:10:00 - [2] 1. Just warp to the moon, launch the POS for corp and then anchor it. It'll just snap itself to the correct grid, or "distance" to the moon if you want. 2. Doesn't matter, just warp in and anchor it from where you are. 3. Because it's kind of something most people figure out themselves. As a rule of thumb, try something yourself ingame before asking questions Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia on 24/04/2011 07:22:38 Edited by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia on 24/04/2011 07:19:37 Originally by: Brock Nelson 1. Just warp to the moon, launch the POS for corp and then anchor it. It'll just snap itself to the correct grid, or "distance" to the moon if you want. 2. Doesn't matter, just warp in and anchor it from where you are. 3. Because it's kind of something most people figure out themselves. As a rule of thumb, try something yourself ingame before asking questions I have warped in and am sitting at 4887km from the moon (i've flown towards the moon from 5000km), off the normal warp in grid as I flew around the moon some, and I am unable to anchor the pos. The normal warp in distance was 5000km from the moon. I am within that range and as I stated, unable to anchor the pos. Apparently my questions didn't give you enough information to determine that I preferred to anchor my pos AWAY from the 'normal' warp in spot on the moon, to reduce traffic site seeing my pos and thus my question asking if that wasn't an option, or if it was. So Genius, try again. p.s. oh and btw genius, I attempted this BEFORE posting. After more than 2 hours of trying to find the information on the forums and asking several people through the different chats I have. Nobody knw the answer. So I came her to ask a reasonably intelligent question, needing only a reasonably intelligent answer, and Instead I get some smarmy ass thinking he's cute when he's just an ass.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:22:00 - [5] You have to slowboat around the moon about 1/4 way around from the warp-in in order to anchor the POS Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:23:00 - [6] Warp to moon anchor POS.
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:24:00 - [7] Edited by: Brock Nelson on 24/04/2011 07:25:33 Oh...sorry, I was under the impression that you were looking for help. But if you feel that you don't deserve the help then I won't give you any. Oh, a hint for you... Standings ps u mad? Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Brock Nelson Oh...sorry, I was under the impression that you were looking for help. But if you feel that you don't deserve the help then I won't give you any. Oh, a hint for you... Standings Oh a hint for you, Wormhole.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Brock Nelson Oh...sorry, I was under the impression that you were looking for help. But if you feel that you don't deserve the help then I won't give you any. Oh, a hint for you... Standings Dude... shaddup! Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:27:00 - [10] Oh sorry, I guess we are all mindreaders and are expected to know where you're anchoring. Yeah, no help for you sir. Please uninstall game, gb2wow kthxbye Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
RaTTuS BIG Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:28:00 - [11] warp to moon anchor nothing else works Join BIG
Clown Pron	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:29:00 - [12] Did you put starbase charter in your cargohold?
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:29:00 - [13] Did you clear your cache? Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:32:00 - [14] Edited by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia on 24/04/2011 07:33:03 Originally by: Brock Nelson Oh sorry, I guess we are all mindreaders and are expected to know where you're anchoring. Yeah, no help for you sir. Please uninstall game, gb2wow kthxbye Gee maybe the fact that I asked a simple question, requiring a simple answer was all that was needed? Also for your information, I've never played wow, so nothing to go back to. kthxbye . Now for anybody else that may wish to address at least questions 1 and 2 of my OP, I'd appreciate it. I keep getting a message that there is no moon where I am trying to anchor a pos, even though I am within the normal warp in range of the moon and only slightly off the warp in grid (by maybe 250km).
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:33:00 - [15] Apparently you are not reading my answer to your question 1 and 2. Nor are you reading any other answer. WARP TO MOON ANCHOR DERP If above doesn't work, petition it or gb2wow kthxbye Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Clown Pron	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:34:00 - [16] Are you sure its a moon? Not a planet? Or a shattered moon? Oh, and did you try putting starbase charter in your cargohold?
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:41:00 - [17] Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia I've searched the forums and simply can't seem to find the answers I need which is... 1. What is the Max and Min distance from a moon you have to be to anchor a POS. 2. Do you have to anchor the POS at the moons standard warp in spot, or can you move around the moon to another location and anchor it there? 3. Why isn't this information available in the EVElopedia data as one would 'think' that this information would be pertinent to that data. Originally by: Brock Nelson 1. Just warp to the moon, launch the POS for corp and then anchor it. It'll just snap itself to the correct grid, or "distance" to the moon if you want. 2. Doesn't matter, just warp in and anchor it from where you are. 3. Because it's kind of something most people figure out themselves. As a rule of thumb, try something yourself ingame before asking questions First off... there are variables to warp in distance of as much as 100km so "just warp to moon" isn't a very helpful answer. Second off, it does matter as the simple answer would have been "You have to anchor it at the normal warp in spot, you can't fly around the moon to anchor it elsewhere". Simple, Intelligent, REASONABLE answer, contrary to YOUR answer. And finally Third... Most people probably have no desire to be away from common travel paths when they anchor a pos, I however DO wish to be off a common travel path. Thus my question, and thus why it would be pertinent information to have in the EVElopedia data, so other individuals like myself, don't have to search for hours and then be forced to come here and ask a question they are unable to find an answer for otherwise and end up having to weed through basically unhelpful trolls answers (even if you were trying to be helpful, your answers failed to address the questions themselves in a reasonable manner that didn't scream TROLL). So. Thank you for the answer. Even though the basics of it was like trying to pull nails out with my teeth.
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:41:00 - [18] Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 24/04/2011 07:42:04 OP, training Reading and Comprehension to level 1 would help. Your questions were answered in the first reply. Originally by: Alotta Baggage Imma bookmark that gif. Ye'llo?
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:47:00 - [19] Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia tears Apparently "Just warp to the moon, launch the POS for corp and then anchor it" was too hard to understand and was considered to be a troll response. Even though, 2 other people posted the same answer Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Clown Pron	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:49:00 - [20] Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia And finally Third... Most people probably have no desire to be away from common travel paths when they anchor a pos, I however DO wish to be off a common travel path. Thus my question, and thus why it would be pertinent information to have in the EVElopedia data, so other individuals like myself, don't have to search for hours and then be forced to come here and ask a question they are unable to find an answer for otherwise and end up having to weed through basically unhelpful trolls answers (even if you were trying to be helpful, your answers failed to address the questions themselves in a reasonable manner that didn't scream TROLL). Common travel path? This isn't WOW kid
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:50:00 - [21] Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia tears Apparently "Just warp to the moon, launch the POS for corp and then anchor it" was too hard to understand and was considered to be a troll response. Even though, 2 other people posted the same answer However you failed to address my FULL question. Which isn't difficult to answer, unless you have an inability to read full sentences and have a further inability to be able to answer multi-part questions. Simple No?
Minarete Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:51:00 - [22] Warp to ZERO on a moon Right click Tower or other module in cargo hold and use the "Launch for Corp" option, do NOT jettison it Right click on Item you "Launched" and select "Anchor" k, thanks
Hunter Brill	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:53:00 - [23] Did you try warping right to the moon?
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Clown Pron Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia And finally Third... Most people probably have no desire to be away from common travel paths when they anchor a pos, I however DO wish to be off a common travel path. Thus my question, and thus why it would be pertinent information to have in the EVElopedia data, so other individuals like myself, don't have to search for hours and then be forced to come here and ask a question they are unable to find an answer for otherwise and end up having to weed through basically unhelpful trolls answers (even if you were trying to be helpful, your answers failed to address the questions themselves in a reasonable manner that didn't scream TROLL). Common travel path? This isn't WOW kid Apparently you have played wow, I however have not. "Common travel path" to me means warping to the normal warp in spots, I.E. where people 'commonly' warp to i.e. a 'common travel path'. Oh and sweet pea, I'm 46. Far from a kid.
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:56:00 - [25] Offgrid anchoring is no longer possible (afaik). With the above in mind, the max distance from zero grid (aka default warp-in point) can be trivially determined through trial & error .... not that it really matters (but if you feel you need to get anal about it).
AssFlare	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:56:00 - [26] Just warp to the moon and anchor it. It's not like there's a gang at every moon in wspace waiting for you to warp into their camp and gangbang you. The answer isn't in EVElopedia because nobody gives a **** about it. Since you're the first, go ahead and post the result of your research.
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 07:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Oh and sweet pea, I'm 46. Far from a kid. Really Genius? You maybe far from a kid but you certainly aren't far from acting like one Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Oh and sweet pea, I'm 46. Far from a kid. Really Genius? You maybe far from a kid but you certainly aren't far from acting like one Really? Sorry if my attempt to get a reasonable and intelligent answer from people who seem more intent on not answering in a reasonable and intelligent manner, makes it seem I am acting like a kid. May I suggest contemplating your visage in a mirror, before you make further comments?
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Oh and sweet pea, I'm 46. Far from a kid. Really Genius? You maybe far from a kid but you certainly aren't far from acting like one Really? Sorry if my attempt to get a reasonable and intelligent answer from people who seem more intent on not answering in a reasonable and intelligent manner, makes it seem I am acting like a kid. May I suggest contemplating your visage in a mirror, before you make further comments? Nah, I just enjoy your rage post Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Mr Silky Spandex	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:03:00 - [30] Edited by: Mr Silky Spandex on 24/04/2011 08:03:15
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:05:00 - [31] Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Oh and sweet pea, I'm 46. Far from a kid. Really Genius? You maybe far from a kid but you certainly aren't far from acting like one Really? Sorry if my attempt to get a reasonable and intelligent answer from people who seem more intent on not answering in a reasonable and intelligent manner, makes it seem I am acting like a kid. May I suggest contemplating your visage in a mirror, before you make further comments? Nah, I just enjoy your rage post To be honest with you, if you enjoy trying to elicit rage from people, I pity you as a human being. It isn't something to be proud of. It is however, something to pity.
Michael J Foxx	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:06:00 - [32] damnn the op has an attitude problem, dude just warp to moon and anchor pos, and why the hell your thinking about traffic routes in a wh i dont know, if someone wants to find your pos they will and it wont take them long no matter where you place it. I have a feeling your wh life will be a short one.
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Michael J Foxx damnn the op has an attitude problem, dude just warp to moon and anchor pos, and why the hell your thinking about traffic routes in a wh i dont know, if someone wants to find your pos they will and it wont take them long no matter where you place it. I have a feeling your wh life will be a short one. I have an attitude problem because I expect an intelligent response to a reasonable question? Oh right, I forgot, this is the EVE-O forums.
thebarry SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:17:00 - [34] i like kittens!
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:18:00 - [35] Originally by: thebarry i like kittens! I feed them to snakes.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:22:00 - [36] I like turtles! Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:23:00 - [37] This sounds like a case for the all mighty (Tippia)oracle! I summon thee all knowing oracle! May your wisdom..cough..bull****..cough guide our path.
Minarete Amarr	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:23:00 - [38] What you are expecting is for everyone to know all of the facts that you did not take the time to research enough Anyway, there is ONE spot on the moon grid where you are allowed to anchor the PoS, one and only one, period. So, as people have stated, warp to zero, launch for corp, and anchor, the PoS will "Snap" to this SINGLE allowed position in the grid, YOU HAVE NO OPTIONS. Why? because people "were" anchoring PoSs at the warp to Zero locations, maybe you can figure it out from there what the implications were.. /close_topic
Brock Nelson Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited SRS.	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:25:00 - [39] I like tears Investor Relation \| IPO Doc \| BSAC SE Listing
Serpents smile	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:30:00 - [40] My sub runs out in 20 hours. Was contemplating if I should resub. This thread delivers, hate to miss this all so I'm going to extend my subscription. Thank you all.
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Minarete What you are expecting is for everyone to know all of the facts that you did not take the time to research enough Anyway, there is ONE spot on the moon grid where you are allowed to anchor the PoS, one and only one, period. So, as people have stated, warp to zero, launch for corp, and anchor, the PoS will "Snap" to this SINGLE allowed position in the grid, YOU HAVE NO OPTIONS. Why? because people "were" anchoring PoSs at the warp to Zero locations, maybe you can figure it out from there what the implications were.. /close_topic I took over two hours searching and reading on these forums and through the EVElopedia attempting to find the information you have just so clearly stated. An answer that is clear, concise and intelligently delivered. Thank you.
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2011.04.24 08:36:00 - [42] 6/10 if the former, good show. Ye'llo?

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Linaeon	Posted - 2011.04.24 10:14:00 - [44] 2 pages for how to anchor a pos ??
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.24 11:13:00 - [45] Originally by: Linaeon 2 pages for how to anchor a pos ?? No, 2 pages to find out if a POS could be anchored in any other location than the standard warp to area (which was part of my Original questions, though nobody seemed willing to answer that, they felt it more important to troll). It was like pulling teeth to get a simple, clear, concise answer to a couple of simple, clear, concise questions.
Dorian Wylde	Posted - 2011.04.24 11:18:00 - [46] Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Originally by: Chief Investigator Dyspareunia I've searched the forums and simply can't seem to find the answers I need which is... 1. What is the Max and Min distance from a moon you have to be to anchor a POS. 2. Do you have to anchor the POS at the moons standard warp in spot, or can you move around the moon to another location and anchor it there? 3. Why isn't this information available in the EVElopedia data as one would 'think' that this information would be pertinent to that data. Originally by: Brock Nelson 1. Just warp to the moon, launch the POS for corp and then anchor it. It'll just snap itself to the correct grid, or "distance" to the moon if you want. 2. Doesn't matter, just warp in and anchor it from where you are. 3. Because it's kind of something most people figure out themselves. As a rule of thumb, try something yourself ingame before asking questions First off... there are variables to warp in distance of as much as 100km so "just warp to moon" isn't a very helpful answer. Second off, it does matter as the simple answer would have been "You have to anchor it at the normal warp in spot, you can't fly around the moon to anchor it elsewhere". Simple, Intelligent, REASONABLE answer, contrary to YOUR answer. And finally Third... Most people probably have no desire to be away from common travel paths when they anchor a pos, I however DO wish to be off a common travel path. Thus my question, and thus why it would be pertinent information to have in the EVElopedia data, so other individuals like myself, don't have to search for hours and then be forced to come here and ask a question they are unable to find an answer for otherwise and end up having to weed through basically unhelpful trolls answers (even if you were trying to be helpful, your answers failed to address the questions themselves in a reasonable manner that didn't scream TROLL). So. Thank you for the answer. Even though the basics of it was like trying to pull nails out with my teeth. The rest of eve understands that if a distance isn't specified, it means warp to zero. Stop trolling, use your f-ing brain and THINK about the answers being given to you. You clearly just expect someone to hold your hand, and do it for you, hence the go back to wow comments.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat	Posted - 2011.04.24 19:49:00 - [47] FYI, POS related questions should be posted in Science & Industry. Posting a serious question in General is never a good idea if you are looking for an answer and don't own flameproof underwear. Even posting questions in New Citizens Q&A, even if you've been around the block a while, is more productive.
Tasmine Ralo	Posted - 2011.04.25 01:02:00 - [48] Peeps prolly didnt wana give up an answer because you are a massive douche, OP.
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.25 06:25:00 - [49] Originally by: Dorian Wylde The rest of eve understands that if a distance isn't specified, it means warp to zero. Stop trolling, use your f-ing brain and THINK about the answers being given to you. You clearly just expect someone to hold your hand, and do it for you, hence the go back to wow comments. Very interesting thinking process you have there. However, it fails logic 101. My questions were reasonable when taken in context and the lack of available information related to that particular context. So why don't YOU stop trolling and use your f-ing brain and THINK about what I asked, why I would ask such a question, and why I would want reasonable answers for said questions when I was unable to find said answers after more than two hours of looking through the forums and EVElopedia. You clearly just expect everyone to simply 'now what the rest of eve knows' by osmosis. However, that type of logic fails when examined closely. I also don't expect people to hold my hand, I do however EXPECT reasonable documentation to be available for hard-coded game mechanics. Something EVE is sadly, VERY well known for the lack of. In particular, do take note of my second question, and also take note that this question is in fact a two part question. If you somehow feel that this question is me asking to have my hand held then again, you simply fail logic 101. Finally, and in conclusion, before I came to the forums with my question (and again let me reiterate after more than 2 hours of fruitless searching through same for an answer), I did in fact attempt to do what I asked about (anchoring my pos off the normal warp in grid (but 'just' off). I believe my question was, and still is a viable question as moons are rather large objects with a significant amount of surrounding spatial 'real estate' where a POS could be anchored. I was seeking to find out if there were other areas on a moon that a pos could be anchored at, or if the 'standard' fare was the only choice I had. Again if you are unable to see how this question could possibly be reasonable, given the lack of ANYTHING in the available documentation by CCP concerning POS/Starbase anchoring that states clearly that there is only ONE spot on a moons vast orbital area that a pos can be anchored.. then I question your intelligence.
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2011.04.25 06:38:00 - [50] OP, here's the thing, you understand "grid" as per Post#4. That suggests a certain level of experience and familiarity. Your whole thread starter post boils down to one thing - placing a POS offgrid. It's been done before, been discussed before and been told before (although in indirect certain terms) that's it is no longer possible to do. So, you're ranting away here for what purpose exactly?
Chief Investigator Dyspareunia Caldari Swift Falcon Industries	Posted - 2011.04.25 06:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Sturmwolke OP, here's the thing, you understand "grid" as per Post#4. That suggests a certain level of experience and familiarity. Your whole thread starter post boils down to one thing - placing a POS offgrid. It's been done before, been discussed before and been told before (although in indirect certain terms) that's it is no longer possible to do. So, you're ranting away here for what purpose exactly? I now know it is no longer possible to do. Which was the answer to my question. I'm satisfied with that answer. Even if it took pulling teeth to get that answer in a clear, non trolling fashion. However, if individuals want to continue arguing lack of documentation about 'common knowledge' etc, in an attempt to somehow twist EVE's lack of documentation for basic game mechanics to somehow mean my lack of knowledge of same is because I want people to 'hold my hand' I will be quite happy to explain their logical fallacies to them. I sought out the answers to my question before asking it and was unable to find anything that explained anything about anchoring limitations of player owned structures. I felt, and still do feel, that my question was reasonable, given it's context, and I felt, and still feel that the majority of 'answers' were unhelpful trollish responses when framed in the context of my questions. I am nothing but a reasonable person, and I expect the same reasonableness of others. Their inability to provide it is indicative of their immaturity in my mind. That however is their problem, and eventually it will bite them in life unless they grow up. But it isn't an excuse for them.
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2011.04.25 07:38:00 - [52] Edited by: Sturmwolke on 25/04/2011 07:40:51 There are a few things you should understand about the EVE forums, it's a madhouse full of interesting characters. Of course there are plenty of gems, but sorting them out isn't easy. As such, thread carefully. * This was pointed by Tau, DO NOT post in EVE General unless you're prepared to get flamed. This basic thread regarding POS questions belong in the S&I forum. Now, although you don't get flamed/trolled as much in here, don't expect it as a rule. * Show basic courtesy. Do not antagonize replies simply because they're unclear or you do not fully understand what they're saying, instead seek to clarify ... politely. You'd be surprised at the number of quality replies if you'd maintained a level discourse. Your last reply is indicative of a person of high self-worth but angry at the world. It's a futile stance. Deal with what you can control, not what's outside of your influence. In this particular scenario, the attitude you portrayed and the clarity of your questions. edit:clarity
Burnharder	Posted - 2011.04.25 10:48:00 - [53] I think the OP was rather hard done-by here. After reading through the thread, he asked a reasonable question but the answers didn't really respond to it in the context within which it was asked. To the OP, don't visualise a planet that you can orbit, visualise a single landing spot that has a cardboard cut-out of a planet behind it. That is what "warp to planet/moon" does and that is why you must place the POS at that spot. As to the actual radius around the point you're allowed to place a POS, I don't know, because I've only personally ever warped to the point and anchored there and I've never read anything about what the "rules" are.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives	Posted - 2011.04.25 17:19:00 - [54] Originally by: Burnharder I think the OP was rather hard done-by here. After reading through the thread, he asked a reasonable question but the answers didn't really respond to it in the context within which it was asked. To the OP, don't visualise a planet that you can orbit, visualise a single landing spot that has a cardboard cut-out of a planet behind it. That is what "warp to planet/moon" does and that is why you must place the POS at that spot. As to the actual radius around the point you're allowed to place a POS, I don't know, because I've only personally ever warped to the point and anchored there and I've never read anything about what the "rules" are. I tend to agree. Cock Nelson certainly didn't help matters with his incessant trolling. -------------- Fix the game's last broken weapon system - support if you care!
Milla Jovobitch	Posted - 2011.04.25 20:33:00 - [55] Originally by: Bumharder I think the OP was rather hard done-by here. After reading through the thread, he asked a reasonable question but the answers didn't really respond to it in the context within which it was asked. I tend to agree to some degree, Bumharder. What happened here was: OP didn't know how to do x OP didn't know how to ask about x Because OP's question was odd, OP was responded in ways that did not meet OP's needs OP emorupted and emoraged OP's QQ led the whole thread deteriorate into trolling and mudslinging. Congratulations. I think that OP has problems with anger management. Perhaps premature ejaculation too. He might do well to take some classes, aye?
Kethas Protagonist Protagonist Ventures	Posted - 2011.04.25 20:53:00 - [56] The OP asked "can I anchor a POS at locations other than the moon's default warp-to-0 spot?" The closest anyone's come to answering this has been "it is now impossible to anchor a POS offgrid of the moon's warpin" which is related, but doesn't quite answer the question. I'm actually curious about it, too, as a) when scouting out various moons and warping to 0 I've never actually been bounced out of a POS bubble on arrival, so I assume POS's can't be anchored at the 0km warpin, and b) I'll be anchoring my own POS soon and, if possible, I'd like to anchor it far away from the warpin (but still ongrid) to add just that little extra bit of hassle to potential attackers. A lot of posters decided to not answer the OP's question, since they didn't know the answer, and instead answered a related question they did know, which is "please give me one way to set up a POS that works." They then got frustrated when the OP failed to respect their all-knowing benevolence. I see this "I can't answer your question, so I'll answer a related, likely simpler, one and pretend they're the same" everywhere in EVE mechanics discussions - presumably because EVE's complicated, so there are a lot of interesting legitimate questions out there that people can't answer, but they still want to appear knowledgeable. I hate it. Hate hate hate. Feigning competency is the realm of politicians. Leave it to them, they're best at it.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat	Posted - 2011.04.25 21:11:00 - [57] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 25/04/2011 21:15:16 It is my understanding that once upon a time one could pick where they wanted the tower to be. I've read this lead to one exploit of locating the tower at the very edge of the grid, which allowed it to be repped from the next grid, invisible to attackers. I've also read that people would anchor at the moon warp-in, causing people to bounce off the shield uncontrollably at high speed while the POS shot at them. There may have been other reasons, and I can't confirm the above ones as I wasn't around in those days. Now of course it doesn't matter where on the grid you anchor the POS, as it will always snap to a predetermined spot (generally considered to be the center of the grid). EDIT: CCP refers to a "grid" as a "bubble", as it is an area of three dimensional space. All objects in the bubble ("on grid"), like ships and missiles, are "balls".
Kethas Protagonist Protagonist Ventures	Posted - 2011.04.25 21:29:00 - [58] Originally by: Tau Cabalander Now of course it doesn't matter where on the grid you anchor the POS, as it will always snap to a predetermined spot (generally considered to be the center of the grid). Thanks. To make sure I understand you correctly: 1) In order to anchor a POS, you must be ongrid of a moon's warpin, and there must not be another POS on the same grid. 2) Your particular location on this grid is immaterial; it has no effect on the eventual location of the anchored tower. 3) When you anchor the tower, it teleports from wherever you anchored it to a predetermined spot, still ongrid, and not close enough to the 0km warpin to include that warpin in the POS bubble. If that's correct, then thank you; within-grid POS placement is one fewer thing I can screw up when setting up shop.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2011.04.25 21:30:00 - [59] I've tried it. And the only place where it's possible to anchor a POS from is the warp-in point. If you move away from the warp-in point eventually you'll start getting odd messages about there not being a moon to anchor from and such. The some-what good news is that once the moon is anchored it moves away from warp-in point to about 80 km or so. At least, this is my experience. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat	Posted - 2011.04.25 21:37:00 - [60] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 25/04/2011 21:43:37 Originally by: Kethas Protagonist 2) Your particular location on this grid is immaterial; it has no effect on the eventual location of the anchored tower. You still must be within a certain distance of a moon (100 km). This limit is all that prevents a tower from being anchored anywhere else. If you warp to zero on the moon, you will be well within anchoring distance. Keep in mind that a grid is typically about 800 km across (varies). Quote: 3) When you anchor the tower, it teleports from wherever you anchored it to a predetermined spot, still ongrid, and not close enough to the 0km warpin to include that warpin in the POS bubble. The warpin point seems to vary from the anchoring snap point. I've seen anywhere from about 85 km to over 153 km, and it is a fixed distance for that particular moon.
Burnharder	Posted - 2011.04.25 22:03:00 - [61] Originally by: Milla Jovo***** I tend to agree to some degree, Bumharder. ahahahaha. Should have gone to spec-savers...
Ebbytingizotay Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.04.25 23:35:00 - [62] http://www.isktheguide.com/ Not made by CCP (probably a good thing?). Page 302 has some good info. You can download it for free or buy the book. Hope this helps. ________________________________________________ Ebbytingizotay!!
Milla Jovobitch	Posted - 2011.04.26 00:20:00 - [63] Originally by: Burnharder Originally by: Milla Jovo***** I tend to agree to some degree, Bumharder. ahahahaha. Should have gone to spec-savers... Oh no! But am I really the only one who has sometimes trouble telling between "m" and "rn".
Justice Starcatcher Asguard Security Service	Posted - 2011.04.27 17:59:00 - [64] There are some very good lessons here. The most important is never ever, ever post in General Discussion if you want a useful answer. You didn't get a useful answer until the post was moved. I see others have already answered the question, thanks to those people! I will add my 2 cents of course too. You could only anchor your pos at the warp in grid, you could move it around on the grid. This led to exploits as mentioned above, off grid repping and bouncing so CCP made POS's have a single site on the warp in grid. Your second question was also excellent, tried it myself way back when, when POS's first came out. Why stick it where any idiot can automatically warp to it I thought, make them work to find it. Saddly CCP didn't allow it then either. Your last question is the hardest to answer, partly is because the game is so complex. You were thinking outside the box, bieng creative. Thats hard to predict when trying to write a guide or database of knowledge. What the...
Kale Eledar Mining and Industrial Services Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage	Posted - 2011.04.28 10:16:00 - [65] You technically CAN fly around the moon if you want, but when you anchor the POS, I believe it anchors at the spot you would arrive if you warped to zero on the moon. Just warp to zero on the moon and anchor it right where you drop out of warp. The distance from the moon you are when you warp to it is the distance you should anchor your POS at. The Evelopedia is player and CCP edited, so it is possible that players haven't thought up the article on POS placement yet. I don't know why people on this forum can't grasp the concept that you get more flies with honey. It's like they're forum vampires, waiting for frustration to rear its head so they can get their rocks off. I'm not sure why if the OP doesn't understand your response or requires more information, it suddenly = carte blanche to forever be a knob for the rest of the OP's thread, progressively getting trollier and trollier. Anyways, if you have any other questions I'll try to answer them. They basically did tell you the necessary info, but I thought I'd elaborate on it.

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