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Leonardo Erquilenne
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Posted - 2011.04.24 10:57:00 -
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tried flying around etc but all is still very expensive...
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Leonardo Erquilenne
tried flying around etc but all is still very expensive...
Tip: the further away you're from main trade and mission hubs the cheaper offices will be.
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I'thari
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:14:00 -
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Stations without invention/manufacturing lines are generaly chepaer too. |
Merouk Baas
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:23:00 -
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There is no in-game mechanism to search for rent values. I'm not sure if there's an out-of-game website; collecting the data from in-game seems cumbersome at best, so I doubt anyone has bothered.
The rent at any station depends on how many other people are also renting offices at the station in question. So, basically, you're looking for a solar system that's 4+ jumps away from a trade hub, lower security, and/or without critical services (no manufacturing, no refining, etc).
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Leonardo Erquilenne
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Posted - 2011.04.24 11:59:00 -
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thanks for the replies.. my next qns comes.. how do i know which is a major hub?? do i turn on average of pilot ?
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Alexander Third
Gallente
Crystal Industries
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Erquilenne
thanks for the replies.. my next qns comes.. how do i know which is a major hub?? do i turn on average of pilot ?
Major hubs include: dodixie, jita, Hek, and ammar, and various other systems.
my corp runs out of foves, costs 20 mil a month to keep it, but its got a lvl 4 agent, manufacturing and research. A nearby system has manufacturing and research, but no lvl 4 agent, it costs 2 million. in other words, it can fluctuate a lot, but it is mostly based of supply and demand.
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Leonardo Erquilenne
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:23:00 -
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Hi all.. i found an office :) 200K+ yes!
now comes the hard part.. what is the best way to get followers? i am role playing a corp to protect the citizens of the federation...
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Erquilenne
Hi all.. i found an office :) 200K+ yes!
now comes the hard part.. what is the best way to get followers? i am role playing a corp to protect the citizens of the federation...
eww .. it's a Gallente swine enemy!
SHOOT HIM!
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Leonardo Erquilenne
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Posted - 2011.04.24 12:35:00 -
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lol Jen.. in RL we are all friends :P
can u help me? how do i get pple to join me? spamming in recruitment will never work...
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Leonardo Erquilenne
Federation Volunteer Corps
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Posted - 2011.04.24 14:33:00 -
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sigh it is tough !
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Rexorol
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Posted - 2011.04.24 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Erquilenne
Hi all.. i found an office :) 200K+ yes!
now comes the hard part.. what is the best way to get followers? i am role playing a corp to protect the citizens of the federation...
No offense, but the only followers you are going to get are either people more noobish than yourself, or people looking to grief/rob you.
If you want a solo corp for yourself and your alts to avoid taxes while you learn the ropes, that works pretty well. Otherwise if you are hoping to lead a corp of real people and not have them want to kill you, you probably want to join another corp and see how they do things and build a reputation for yourself first. Then either take that corp over or start your own and steal their members.
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Merouk Baas
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.04.24 17:21:00 -
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Trade hubs are stations where, even if you pick an obscure item like something with Alumel in its name, it's sold there. So look on the market to see where the ones hearby you are, pretend to be looking to buy battleships or rare guns or modules, and see which station has all of them.
Yes, leading a corporation is hard, recruiting is hard, and you have to beware of thieves, griefers, and extortion war declarations.
Most people aren't interested in joining a corp and paying taxes or giving you stuff, if they can do whatever activity they're doing alone for more profit. So, your corp must provide something that one can't get solo.
That's usually one of the following:
- access to 0.0 space (because your corp is part of a large alliance).
- a player-owned-station (POS) that does research or moon mining or whatever.
- access to better agents because the corp has high standings.
- skilled gang bonuses (for mining) because you or others have trained the skills under the Leadership group and have an Orca to provide significant boosts to mining output for your people
- a plan for how to succeed in EVE (it's amazing how rare this is)
- lots of officers who are always online to provide organized operations (PVP or otherwise), sage advice, or maybe even the odd skill or tutorial to help corp members out
- the ability to defend against griefers or war declarations because your corp has lots of veteran PVP'ers who aren't afraid to fight for the corp (or is part of a large Empire-alliance that has PVP'ers)
Pick one, or a few of these, and once you get it, people will find your corp attractive. Right now, it doesn't sound like you're providing any bonus, so people won't join.
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Alexandra Lingwa
Caldari
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
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Posted - 2011.04.25 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Erquilenne
Hi all.. i found an office :) 200K+ yes!
Most of my offices are only 10k isk a month to rent, although I am renting one for 92 mil isk a month lol, but it is a strategically useful office.
The best places are lowsec, or far away from crowded systems like back-wood mostly empty systems.
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ISD IonCharge
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Posted - 2011.04.25 07:52:00 -
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Office rent is calculated based on a number of factors, including number of currently rented offices in that station and system traffic.
Use your star map, and colour the stars by statistics such as pilots in space, pilots docked, number of gate activations, to get an idea of which of your nearby systems are quieter / less busy ones, and you should be able to find a minimal-rent (10,000 ISK) office.
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ISD IonCharge
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.25 12:25:00 -
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Yes - the map is your friend. Look at the big orange blobs - and go some where else.
Also - if all you want is a cheap spot to store your ships - the first thing to look at is stations that belong to a corporation that is part of the enemy faction.
Each faction has two enemies - a primary and a secondary. They also have one friend.
Minmatar/Galente
Gallente - Caldari, Amarr
Minmatar - Amarr, Caldari
Amarr/Caldair
Caldari - Gallente, Minmatar
Amarr - Minmatar, Gallente
Belonging to the enemy faction but being in your factions space - means right of the bat - that people who run missions for the agents in that base can hurt their standing with the faction whose space they are in. What you do there - if you want to run missions for corporations belonging to your faction - is to run them with agents in nearby bases that do belong to corporations from your faction. You just have to fly over to that station to talk to the agents.
Now - for a role playing corporation - that particular little way of doing things may not work so well.
200k isn't a good price - not because it's so much more than the 10k minimum - but because it's likely to change. 10k is the bottom price - it won't go below that - but it's also an indication of lots of empty offices - which means the price is unlikely to change in the near future (which means you'll need to move). Once the price starts to change it can go up relatively fast.
Now - if you want something more than a garage for your ships and sorting folders for your stuff - then that's different. There - you want to think about what it is you plan on doing in that station.
One thing to keep in mind if you plan on mining - is that some stations have a base refine figure of 50% and others 30%. Thus, if you get your refining skills trained up some - you're getting a 90% or more refine rate in the one - but - a 70% or so rate in the other. A 70% refine rate sucks. Here', just carry a little Veld with you - then try to refine it - and look to see what the base refine rate is in the reprocessing window that comes up.
There are two basic types of player corporations. Public and Private.
A public corporation has other players in it recruited from the general EVE population - where as a private corporation has pretty much just one person and their alts or a maybe few people who know each other IRL. One advantage of private corporations that are only open to a few people (people that you know from outside the game) is that you have less of a chance of being betrayed. The disadvantage (unless like the Goons you've got a large external group to draw on) is that you're limited in what you can do as a corporation by your size.
Someone can have any number of reasons for having a private corporation. They may well have other alts who belong to public corporations - but they have their little private corporation off to the side for their own reasons. One reason could simply be to use the corporate folders to store their stuff, with the sole member of that private corporation there acting as a store keeper to receive stuff from or hand out to their alts as needed. They may also be among those people who play MMO's but actually don't like interacting with other players - as odd as that may seem.
If you're creating a private corporation - then it doesn't matter when you do it.
If you're creating a public corporation - then you really should know what the hell you're doing before trying to recruit other people - which generally means not merely playing the game for a while yourself but playing it as a part of corporations that are doing the kinds of things you want to do. Then - once you've learned how to play the game, how things work in corporations and had some leadership roles - then - go form your own. Here - you may already have made some friends to go form that corporation with you.
Just starting up your own noob corp. with no experience yourself ... is asking for trouble.
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Orbiting vs. Kiting
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Leonardo Erquilenne
Federation Volunteer Corps
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Posted - 2011.04.25 12:52:00 -
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Thank you so much.. i feel so disappointed.. all i wanted is to role play and help people... sigh indeed it is tough to do this
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
Peregrine Nation
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Posted - 2011.04.26 17:30:00 -
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It is very rough to start your own corp. Especially when your a young player.
For how you can get members i would advice using the recruitment section of the forums,and occasionally the recruitment channel.
Sitt down and make a real plan on how you want to run your corp,figure out what roles you will need filled,and set up a set of rules.Don't be picky on a recruits skill points. You might also want to read over other peoples recruitment posts and see how they do it,dont copy them ofc,but get a general idea on what gets a posetive response,then find your own way of advertising based on that.
For the recruitment channel,dont spam. Advertise once every 15 minutes or so is more then enough.
You can also use the ingame advertiser.
Corporation/recruitment/our adverts
This is a personal advice,and some might disagree with me,but its ment well. Dont advertise saying things like "Free ship/mods upon joining!" or "First person to join will become a director" and stuff like that.Its a high chanse you will get people who are joining purely because of these promises,but do not care about the corp or its members.
Since you want to start a roleplaying corp there will be both benefits and disadvantages. There is a lack of rp corps in eve,which means you will have a higher chanse of finding people who are interested in joining,but that also means that the older,more exsperiensed corps who do this will and can give you a lot of competition.
Be patient. Running a corp is not a hobby,even if this is just a game. You will have to dedicate a lot of time to this,and you should be prepared for the fact that it can take months before your corp starts to settle and get a decent idea on what you are.
Also be prepared for the fact that a lot of people will leave,but dont let it discurage you. Its frustrating when you spend a lot of time talking to someone,have them join,try your best to make them happy and watch them leave a week later,but thats just how it is to be a recruiter. Again,be patient.
Good luck with your corp 
Regards,
NightCrawler
Phoibe Enterprises
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.04.26 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Leonardo Erquilenne
Thank you so much.. i feel so disappointed.. all i wanted is to role play and help people... sigh indeed it is tough to do this
First off - no need to be down hearted - you can still role play - you just need to go find an existing role playing corporation that supports the Gallente. If you can't then there are Gallente Factional Warfare Corporations that might come close.
Check out the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center Forum. If there's not a corporation advertising there that looks like what you want - you can try advertising yourself and what your interested in.
Secondly - there's this link on How Corporate Office Rents Work - courtesy of one of our esteemed former colleagues Estel Arador.
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Orbiting vs. Kiting
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