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GENERAL CONSTANTINO Caldari Corporation xXx	Posted - 2011.04.25 07:01:00 - [1] Edited by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO on 25/04/2011 07:06:09 hi everyone... just want to ask if theres already any player out there who already got the first ever perfect 10.0 standing towards caldari state or any empire faction? just wondering if theres anyone who already did it. if you know someone please share hes name here if its ok... just for reference =D thanks for your time
MuffinsRevenger Kenny Starfighter Appreciation Club	Posted - 2011.04.25 08:43:00 - [2] Quite a few yeah, problem is you have to be crazy to get that far, and it won't actually give you any benefit
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2011.04.25 10:12:00 - [3] It's something I have always wanted but the amount of missions needed to grind is somewhat insane. COSMOS, FW Promotions, Data Collection & Epic Arcs are a great way to gain standing with a little less repetition involved in the grind.
Herrring Amarr National Quality Breaker	Posted - 2011.04.25 11:20:00 - [4] do Fw missions. It will bomb the opposing faction standings, but you will gain your militia's faction standing ridiculously fast.
Chea Panasty	Posted - 2011.04.25 18:53:00 - [5] I had a character that had 9.99999999 with caldari state and caldari navy and I know my char wasnt the only one. A true perfect 10 is not possible. Took me years grinding...I'll probably never do that again.
Xenuria Gallente Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet	Posted - 2011.04.25 19:07:00 - [6] Originally by: Chea Panasty I had a character that had 9.99999999 with caldari state and caldari navy and I know my char wasnt the only one. A true perfect 10 is not possible. Took me years grinding...I'll probably never do that again. If I am not mistaken a true 10 is possible also with security status. Vote Support For Great Justice
Contralto Rift Tech	Posted - 2011.04.25 19:12:00 - [7] I had an indicated +10 to Minmatar and Gallente up till a year ago, but since I started raising my -10 Amarr and Caldari high enough so I can enter their space I have dropped to 7+. I still have the Sisters of Eve faction at +10 along with a half dozen Npc Corporations. As mentioned above you never achieve a perfect 10, just a 9 and high number of decimal places
Kerfira Kerfira Corp	Posted - 2011.04.25 21:41:00 - [8] Edited by: Kerfira on 25/04/2011 21:43:31 You do not have a perfect 10.0! You have something like 9.9952, which is then displayed as 10.0. It is not possible to get a perfect 10.0. Every standing reward is a percentage of the difference between your current standings and 10.0, but the limited accuracy of floating point operations makes it impossible to get to that since all standings increases are <100%. Say for example that the accuracy was 4 digits after the '.' (it is higher, but just for the example), and say you got up do 9.9999. To get to a pure 10.0, you'd need 0.0001, but you can only get that if you run a mission that increases your standings by either 50+% or 100% (depending on how rounding works). There are no rewards that gives this high a boost for faction standings. QED. You do not have 10.0 faction standings, nor does anyone else! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
GyokZoli Caldari Sanctum of Citizens	Posted - 2011.04.26 13:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 25/04/2011 21:43:31 You do not have a perfect 10.0! You have something like 9.9952, which is then displayed as 10.0. It is not possible to get a perfect 10.0. Every standing reward is a percentage of the difference between your current standings and 10.0, but the limited accuracy of floating point operations makes it impossible to get to that since all standings increases are <100%. Say for example that the accuracy was 4 digits after the '.' (it is higher, but just for the example), and say you got up do 9.9999. To get to a pure 10.0, you'd need 0.0001, but you can only get that if you run a mission that increases your standings by either 50+% or 100% (depending on how rounding works). There are no rewards that gives this high a boost for faction standings. QED. You do not have 10.0 faction standings, nor does anyone else! This.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.04.26 20:28:00 - [10] Edited by: Franklin Delano Roosevelt on 26/04/2011 20:28:55 Getting a 10.0 is possible. There's a person in our corp that has 10.0 with both Gallente and Minmatar. edit: Ok, I just read the above post, so yeah, it might not be a perfect 10 but you will still have it show up as 10.
Carniflex StarHunt R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.27 05:58:00 - [11] I'm afraid not the first one. I know guys who had faction 10 back in 2008 already and I dont think even they were the first ones. All it takes is few years of consistent missionrunning. However for 2 run faction battleship BPC COSMOS reward you only need 9.98. That is considerably easier to achieve.
Ifly Uwalk Caldari Concentrated Evil	Posted - 2011.04.27 06:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Carniflex However for 2 run faction battleship BPC COSMOS reward you only need 9.98. Actually you only need 9.9.
Straight Edged	Posted - 2011.04.28 05:20:00 - [13] Sorry i dont buy this argument. 10.0 is 10.0. No matter what number below 10.0 you choose, i can ALWAYS mission run enough times such that your standing is more then your number. IE, no matter what you choose below 10.0, for example 9.99999998 I can always mission run enough times such that my standing is 9.99999999999999999 which is more then 9.99999998 In short, it converges to 10.0 When something converges to 10.0, it is basically 10.0 Because its impossible to be anything below 10.0 (which is proven above)
Jason W0rthing	Posted - 2011.04.28 15:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Straight Edged Sorry i dont buy this argument. 10.0 is 10.0. No matter what number below 10.0 you choose, i can ALWAYS mission run enough times such that your standing is more then your number. IE, no matter what you choose below 10.0, for example 9.99999998 I can always mission run enough times such that my standing is 9.99999999999999999 which is more then 9.99999998 In short, it converges to 10.0 When something converges to 10.0, it is basically 10.0 Because its impossible to be anything below 10.0 (which is proven above) You can never hit perfect ten. The relationship is asymptotic. Originally by: CCP Shadow What is thy bidd -- Wait. This thread, I have an irresistible urge to lock it for "being related to neither crime nor punishment."
Milla Jovobitch	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:38:00 - [15] Originally by: Jason W0rthing You can never hit perfect ten. The relationship is asymptotic. I am a perfect ten. Wait until we get to walk in stations and I'll give you a key to my "quarters".
Milla Jovobitch	Posted - 2011.04.28 16:40:00 - [16] Originally by: GENERAL CONSTANTINO just want to ask if theres already any player out there who already got the first ever perfect 10.0 standing towards caldari state or any empire faction? ...and to General Constipation here: yes, I ground one of the factions to 10.0 years ago, but I'll tell you it definitely wasn't worth it.
Straight Edged	Posted - 2011.04.28 23:37:00 - [17] Quote: You can never hit perfect ten. The relationship is asymptotic. What im saying is, the limit will never be below 10.0 i can easily prove that any number below 10.0 will not be the upper bound. If it cant be below 10.0, then it must converge to 10.0 Just like 1+0.1^N is converges to 1 when N tends to infinite. Any number above one, i can easily prove that it is not the lower bound
Tarryn Nightstorm Minmatar Hellstar Towing and Recovery	Posted - 2011.04.30 09:19:00 - [18] Originally by: Milla Jovo*** Originally by:** Jason W0rthing You can never hit perfect ten. The relationship is asymptotic. I am a perfect ten. Wait until we get to walk in stations and I'll give you a key to my "quarters". Gods, your avatar looks like such a skank...
Sjugar	Posted - 2011.04.30 11:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Straight Edged Sorry i dont buy this argument. 10.0 is 10.0. No matter what number below 10.0 you choose, i can ALWAYS mission run enough times such that your standing is more then your number. IE, no matter what you choose below 10.0, for example 9.99999998 I can always mission run enough times such that my standing is 9.99999999999999999 which is more then 9.99999998 In short, it converges to 10.0 When something converges to 10.0, it is basically 10.0 Because its impossible to be anything below 10.0 (which is proven above) While mathematically you are right, whether this works in Eve is something else. Two things, 1 time constraints: if your run missions for 100 years and reach 9.99999 whatever number of 9s behind the digits, I can run missions for 101 years and reach a value closer to 10 which isn't 10. 2 which might be more interesting. We're dealing with computers here. Computers store their values in binary. A binary number has fixed number of digits. That means it doesn't support a 9 with 1000 9s behind the point. So the question is, at some point you will reach the closest possible value to 10 binary and what happens then depends on your standings jump. Will it be enough to take you to 10 ur just not enough and give you a fixed standing which can never increase.
King Rothgar Path of the Fallen	Posted - 2011.04.30 17:20:00 - [20] I was 10.0 amarr empire standing for a while. But it didn't really do much for me. I was an outlaw at the time so going out to get my cosmos BPC's was simply not doable. Beyond that the only real benefit of such high standing is you can use any agent with any corp belonging to that faction without any grinding. That ability may or may not be useful to you. But I at least found it somewhat useful. I don't think you have to be crazy to reach that point, I never tried to reach 10.0 standing, it just happened. I got there by very casually collecting it via storyline missions and FW promotions. The only missions I ran were for amarr for about 2 years and so even though I'm a very casual missioner (mostly pvp), it did add up. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig.

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