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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 10:24:00 -
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/me gets firecoat
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Versuvius Marii
Inb4 "Old forums work fine, are fine, and don't need changing. Away with this "new forums" nonsense"? I'm surprised this isn't more of a threadnaught filled with bitter 0.0 vets moaning about change for the sake of change...
I want better forums, I don't want those forums.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Karuck
Some people sure are out for blood, should we have a public execution in nullsec maybe? :) I hope we'll give you guys details later on what really happened, but let me just say that things aren't as simple as many of you make them out to be... but I know they certainly look that way.
Sure it was a serious and embarrassing exploit, but exactly how it happened needs a longer and careful explanation. All the developers involved in this project are very competent developers but as anyone who has worked in software development knows, things can "fall between the cracks" in more complex systems and especially when integrating multiple systems together.
I hope we can win your trust back some day :)
from the user POV, the perception is that the work was rushed and didn't get proper QA.
the "new" forums would've been more accepted if the feedback from both testing phases was taken into account, or at the very least a statement on explaining why they weren't done on release day.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Rhayger
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: CCP Karuck
Some people sure are out for blood, should we have a public execution in nullsec maybe? :) I hope we'll give you guys details later on what really happened, but let me just say that things aren't as simple as many of you make them out to be... but I know they certainly look that way.
Sure it was a serious and embarrassing exploit, but exactly how it happened needs a longer and careful explanation. All the developers involved in this project are very competent developers but as anyone who has worked in software development knows, things can "fall between the cracks" in more complex systems and especially when integrating multiple systems together.
I hope we can win your trust back some day :)
from the user POV, the perception is that the work was rushed and didn't get proper QA.
the "new" forums would've been more accepted if the feedback from both testing phases was taken into account, or at the very least a statement on explaining why they weren't done on release day.
That will come with the next blog. As mentioned this wasn't a case of rushing, this was a case of missing flaws which is a different but equally troubling problem that is critical to address. I'm not downplaying it, just want to make sure there isn't misconceptions that anyone pushed this to get released prematurely. That was not the case.
then it feels that both internal testing and QA failed miserably here.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.03 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: d4refiner
Have I missed anything?
well, in all honesty and as I said before, we need better forums. We don't need that thing that was the "new forums" however.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.04 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kasidis
I don't give a rats ass about the web team. I may not trust the web team anymore, but the web team doesn't represent all of CCP. I trust CCP to do what they do best.
it's not just the forums.
if it was just the forums, I'm damn sure the outcry wouldn't be as big as it was.
It's more like the continuous deployment of bugs that were extensively reported on test server and not fixed, lack of commitment on polishing/fixing content that was deployed and then, apparently, abandoned (FW), or half-fixed (PI), and a seemingly growing lack of communication.
Hell, the only guy that managed to salvage anything in this forum debacle was Sreegs, and tbh that was the only instance in a long time where I saw someone from CCP actually put their hands on the fire to try to calm them.
I mean, I'm not asking CCP to spill the beans out, just a bit more interaction.
in a TL;DR way: the new forums were just that last straw.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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