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William I Wolfen	Posted - 2011.05.08 02:14:00 - [1] Hallo again everyone. I've been doing a little reading, and knowing that scorch crystals dont last forever, I've begun to wonder how long they last for. Medium ones in particular, if it makes any difference. Planning on fitting them on a Navy Omen and eventually a Zealot. I'm a bit concerned about the lifespan of the crystals since both ships have a significant RoF bonus. While subjective estimates are great, if there was a way to calculate how many shots you can get out of one crystal, thay would be most helpful.
Ytrea	Posted - 2011.05.08 03:03:00 - [2] 1000 shots. Load a fresh set of crystals, never change them, then go fire at an asteroid. They all break at the same time; after 1000 shots.
William I Wolfen	Posted - 2011.05.08 03:07:00 - [3] So for the 400k they cost, i only get 1000 shots out of them? Doesnt sound economically viable for running missions at 40isk pershot per gun... Especially on high RoF guns...
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.05.08 03:14:00 - [4] Edited by: Linda Shadowborn on 08/05/2011 03:14:25 40 isk per round isnt much. Thats about what most ammo cost. Edit: to clarify medium EMP goes for around 50 and autocannons sure spew them out
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2011.05.08 05:47:00 - [5] Faction torps for my Golem average about 4000 per round. 40 is nothing. ______________________________________________________ PVP is a question that has no one right answer but a lot of wrong ones. - Aelana Anais
Renarla	Posted - 2011.05.08 05:53:00 - [6] I spent about 850 isk per shot in my Kronos. So yeah, 40 is pennies.
Ein Phantom	Posted - 2011.05.08 08:50:00 - [7] Originally by: William I Wolfen So for the 400k they cost, i only get 1000 shots out of them? Doesnt sound economically viable for running missions at 40isk pershot per gun... Especially on high RoF guns... 400,000 / 1,000 = 400 My god. All of you should be ashamed.
David Clausewitz Amarr	Posted - 2011.05.08 08:53:00 - [8] Originally by: Ein Phantom Originally by: William I Wolfen So for the 400k they cost, i only get 1000 shots out of them? Doesnt sound economically viable for running missions at 40isk pershot per gun... Especially on high RoF guns... 400,000 / 1,000 = 400 My god. All of you should be ashamed. thank you for this rofl
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.08 08:53:00 - [9] Originally by: Ein Phantom 400,000 / 1,000 = 400 Still cheap as chips. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Thlarr	Posted - 2011.05.08 08:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Ein Phantom Originally by: William I Wolfen So for the 400k they cost, i only get 1000 shots out of them? Doesnt sound economically viable for running missions at 40isk pershot per gun... Especially on high RoF guns... 400,000 / 1,000 = 400 My god. All of you should be ashamed. This is the Ships and modules forum, not market discussion. People there people understand math and are proficient in calculus. Here people are awestruck by numbers and cower before them.
Templar Dane Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2011.05.08 13:24:00 - [11] Originally by: Thlarr This is the Ships and modules forum, not market discussion. People there people understand math and are proficient in calculus. Here people are awestruck by numbers and cower before them.
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.05.08 14:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Ein Phantom Originally by: William I Wolfen So for the 400k they cost, i only get 1000 shots out of them? Doesnt sound economically viable for running missions at 40isk pershot per gun... Especially on high RoF guns... 400,000 / 1,000 = 400 My god. All of you should be ashamed. eh.. it was late nods ill go slap myself now..
William I Wolfen	Posted - 2011.05.08 18:19:00 - [13] Flaming over a typo... Sheesh. 40 wouldnt be a problem, but 400 a shot is 2k a salvo, and shooting at mostly frigs for 2k a salvo just doesnt make sense to me... Sounds like i just need to stick to my beam lasers and get the same range out of T1 crystals. Especially since part of the reason i use lasers is to avoid ammo costs.
RavenPaine	Posted - 2011.05.08 19:04:00 - [14] Do some PvP, and soon you will have a hanger full of crystals
David Clausewitz Amarr	Posted - 2011.05.08 19:12:00 - [15] we amarr just get spoiled by t1 ammo being infinite
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:02:00 - [16] Are you going to be running level 2, 3 or 4 missions in that ship? If it's level 2-3, then I agree with you; it's probably not viable economically to use Scorch. However, this is assuming you're doing those mid-level missions for money. If you're just trying to quickly grind the standings to move on to level 4 then speed is more important, or if you're doing level 4 missions then the money you earn in the level 4s will easily cover the cost of the ammo. It also depends on what you're fighting and where they tend to be. Scorch gives you almost the range of beams while still using pulse lasers. If the targets are already going to be in pulse laser range with regular crystals, no need for it. ______________________________________________________ PVP is a question that has no one right answer but a lot of wrong ones. - Aelana Anais
Straight Edged	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:13:00 - [17] always use faction if it increases mission completion tme
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2011.05.08 23:01:00 - [18] Originally by: Straight Edged always use faction if it increases mission completion tme Umm. Decreases, right?
Renarla	Posted - 2011.05.09 00:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Zhilia Mann Originally by: Straight Edged always use faction if it increases mission completion tme Umm. Decreases, right? No, higher numbers are always better!
Rewak	Posted - 2011.05.09 01:44:00 - [20] 1 crystal will last 1000 shots right. so if I fire 999 shots and reprocess the crystal do I get some materials back?
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.05.09 01:50:00 - [21] Originally by: Rewak 1 crystal will last 1000 shots right. so if I fire 999 shots and reprocess the crystal do I get some materials back? Yes
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.05.09 02:28:00 - [22] Originally by: Rewak 1 crystal will last 1000 shots right. so if I fire 999 shots and reprocess the crystal do I get some materials back? Except you can't. Well, maybe large ones, but both medium and small crystals need to be in a single stack to reprocess. So once you fit them to your ship (not even fire them) they cannot be sold on the market or reprocesses.
Judicator Saturnius Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.05.09 04:22:00 - [23] Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Originally by: Rewak 1 crystal will last 1000 shots right. so if I fire 999 shots and reprocess the crystal do I get some materials back? Except you can't. Well, maybe large ones, but both medium and small crystals need to be in a single stack to reprocess. So once you fit them to your ship (not even fire them) they cannot be sold on the market or reprocesses. You're thinking of t2 crystals. Faction/t1 can be reprocessed.
Crabs Collector	Posted - 2011.05.09 05:43:00 - [24] You wont use scorch long anyway if you do missions. When you can start doing lvl 4's, beams/tachyons are usually the better option wich you'll use t1 or faction ammo for.
The Djego Minmatar Hellequin Inc.	Posted - 2011.05.09 18:36:00 - [25] Not very long, about 8.3 minutes in pve with a gank fitted legion(7474 shots/h) per crystal(about 45 minutes per set of 6 crystals). Zealot and NIO have a quicker rof(still one turret less) so expect life frames of less than 40 minutes for a set. You are basically looking at a ammo cost of 3M+ p/h. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank! Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
Leekana Gallente Digital Messiahs	Posted - 2011.05.09 18:56:00 - [26] Not long enough? The BIG Lottery
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.05.09 20:08:00 - [27] Originally by: Judicator Saturnius Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Originally by: Rewak 1 crystal will last 1000 shots right. so if I fire 999 shots and reprocess the crystal do I get some materials back? Except you can't. Well, maybe large ones, but both medium and small crystals need to be in a single stack to reprocess. So once you fit them to your ship (not even fire them) they cannot be sold on the market or reprocesses. You're thinking of t2 crystals. Faction/t1 can be reprocessed. ANd if you look at what I quoted, it was referring to t2 crystals.
Moonasha	Posted - 2011.05.09 23:56:00 - [28] Edited by: Moonasha on 09/05/2011 23:56:48 Originally by: William I Wolfen So for the 400k they cost, i only get 1000 shots out of them? Doesnt sound economically viable for running missions at 40isk pershot per gun... Especially on high RoF guns... Only use them on Battleships at far range. Otherwise you're just saving maybe 3 seconds per cruiser or whatever. Frigs you're gonna 1shot anyways edit : was referring to PVE
Judicator Saturnius Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.05.10 00:27:00 - [29] Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Originally by: Judicator Saturnius Originally by: Corina's Bodyguard Originally by: Rewak 1 crystal will last 1000 shots right. so if I fire 999 shots and reprocess the crystal do I get some materials back? Except you can't. Well, maybe large ones, but both medium and small crystals need to be in a single stack to reprocess. So once you fit them to your ship (not even fire them) they cannot be sold on the market or reprocesses. You're thinking of t2 crystals. Faction/t1 can be reprocessed. ANd if you look at what I quoted, it was referring to t2 crystals. What part of that quote indicated t2?
Last Wolf Umbra Wing	Posted - 2011.05.10 00:58:00 - [30] Originally by: Judicator Saturnius What part of that quote indicated t2? Did you completely forget the topic of the entire thread? Or are you currently thinking "What the hell is with all of these EVE Online related posts?!?! I want to find the best way to make a DPS paladin!" Oh no you don't! Incoming witty reply, ETA: 300 seconds!

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