Gitanmaxx wrote:
I think it's because the ships you listed for amarr are niche ships. A lot of people play amarr wanting heavy armor and laser beams of death. When you look at the ships of that basic Ammarian doctrine is when things look greener everywhere else. you grudgingly semi included harbinger, agreed its not bad the others are just better. But in pvp the most used ship class seems to be BC, or cruisers for poor folks which is what all races get compared by, right or wrong.
Sum it up, amarr has awesome ships. But a race is judged usually by its vanilla ships which aren't the ones anyone raves about when talking about amarr.
This is a good point and one that is hard to realize until you think about it. As many in this thread have pointed out, there are a fair amount of good specialized ships in the Amarr line. However, the main problem I see with Amarr ships (and what I think the above quoted post is saying) is that none of these are what you expect from Amarr, that is, a hard hitting, heavily armored laser boat.
Curse/pilgrim - neut/td/drone boats with meh tank (depending on fit).
Zealot - sniper boat with no tank.
Navy Omen/Slicer - similar to zealot. I understand Navy Omen can be fit for a closer range brawler though too.
Arbitrator - baby curse.
Take a look at those ships. They are not heavily tanked, laser boats. In fact, funny enough, they are the opposite in many cases. This makes you understand why they are the chosen small-gang/solo pvp Amarr ships - because they are
nothing like the "standard" Amarr doctrine line up is!
The only ships I think you can add for "true" Amarr type ships that exceed at solo/small gang pvp are the
new Punisher and the Harby. And even the Harby is a stretch as many have pointed out. It needs a bit more powergrid and a bit less mass too be honest.
Now, comparatively, looking at Minmatar and Gallente races you can easily find multiple ships that exceed at small gang/solo pvp
that actually follow their racial doctrine: talos, tornado, rifter, incursus, hurricane (now cyclone too, due to the ASB), myrm, brutix, tornado, phoon, dominix, vexor, stabber fleet issue, loki, proteus (legion needs a 6th laser turret!). Looking at these ships it's clear they follow their racial doctrines (minmatar being fast and in your face + neuts, or long range with speed - or gallente rush you and blast your face or drone you to death).