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Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.05.11 12:41:00 - [31] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: WhyTry1 However I am now impelled to comment onthis statement.. Strange that Wow has like 12 Million subs and eve as like ermm 300,000..if that...I wonder whos doing it right? Blizzard or CCP.. Oh yes its CCP of course.. There are more people who eat at McD's than at three-star restaurants. Guess where the food is better? I wonder if there were no price differences .. where would people eat then .. ?
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.11 12:48:00 - [32] Originally by: Jennifer Starling I wonder if there were no price differences .. where would people eat then .. ? Most of them still at McD's, for various other reasonsà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Anna Finster Fnord Works Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.05.11 13:04:00 - [33] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Originally by: Tippia Originally by: WhyTry1 However I am now impelled to comment onthis statement.. Strange that Wow has like 12 Million subs and eve as like ermm 300,000..if that...I wonder whos doing it right? Blizzard or CCP.. Oh yes its CCP of course.. There are more people who eat at McD's than at three-star restaurants. Guess where the food is better? I wonder if there were no price differences .. where would people eat then .. ? McD still (WoW respectively), because ppl are scary carebears afraid to lose their hard earned bits and bytes...
Giggity Giggity Gooo	Posted - 2011.05.11 13:08:00 - [34] Weird, i have a corp mate who solos all the time in null sec, and its in a slow boating domi too. You just dont know what your doing. Proof.
Arnakoz	Posted - 2011.05.11 13:14:00 - [35] Originally by: Tippia His point is that it's not a sandbox because the game keeps you from doing things. This is not true. The game still lets you do all those things, just as much as it did before (wellà apart from some options that have been removed for balancing reasons: you can no longer choose to fly at a bazillion AU/s in your Scorpion) ù other players are what's in your way. Or in some cases, it's the OP himself that is in his way, because he knows what he wants to do will come in conflict with other player's wishes, and he doesn't want that conflict (not that this decision is in any way unreasonable ù engaging in a conflict that has zero chance of fulfilling his goal is just wasteful and pointless) to me, a sandbox would make more things possible, rather than limiting their mechanics further. whether that means "they" can do more things to stop "me" from doing everything i want or not.
Xtreem Gallente Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2011.05.11 13:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Jason Triumph Originally by: Xtreem eve has not changed in this regard, just the amount of people has! back in 03/4 i used to camp a 0.0 choke point in my throax, someones with a buddie also in a thorax and we could take on most things, not becuase they did not blob, just fewer people about TO blob with! only thing that can solve blobbing really is massivly increase the systems in eve and make it worth whole to spread out, and even then i bet players will clump up I do agree with you that then they need to increase the amount of systems but if that's all they do it will change nothing, only the major alliances (the ones with all the space already !) will be able to establish a foothold in the new systems meaning more isk for them. The only thing that makes it possible to have blobs anywhere and everywhere is jump bridges and I am totally against them. Just my opinion on things with the JB changes coming soon, it will not be in an allainces best interest to hold more space than they can afford, or at least need for their members, thus with a massive increase (i'm talking 10 plus regions, with high ly distances) will make alot of smaller allainces setup shop throughout the new regions, at least untill eve gets another 200k plays and we are back where we are.. but 0.0 space does need an increase tbh,.
Martyr Theos The NecroMonger Faith	Posted - 2011.05.11 14:22:00 - [37] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Hermosa Diosas So its sandbox because the 'game mechanics' said so, but in reality its not..The game has changed so much 'for the worse' over the past few years its untrue. So lets reflect Dead pretty much, its pretty much impossible to go solo, unless you just go kill carebears, and forget real pvp. There are so many alts, traps, hot drops its just ridiculous. Pretty much no matter what ship you have your not going to survive if you get hit by 3 or even people. The mechanics make it so you cant even have a chance of escape. Webs stop you from moving, the introduction of scrams stopping mwds was stupid, neuts just kill everything. Its crazy one mod can incap your whole ship. The point is every ship can fit every mod which makes the game impossible to predict in anyway at all. So even though the mechanics allow people to solo, infact reality says you cant. Ok you say well its supposed to be a team game..well then its not sandbox is it.. Its a shame this game is now moving much more towards blobs and supercaps..roaming pvp is dead, soloing is dead, small alliances cant get in 0.0 unless your a pet or pay billions to alliances. Large alliances make soo much isk that any losses they incur means nothing. So they will always control 0.0. Piracy aint that great either, the amount of penalities you get is just crazy. If you really want to get somewhere in this game you cant, unless you buy lots of ISK using GTC, you pretty much have to BUY your way into this game, rather than play your way into this game.. So if I understand you correctly, EVE, an MMO, is dead because people are working together in well organised groups and this gives them an advantage over individuals? ************* Malcanis, I generally like your posts as they are usually either witty or on point... but I have to disagree this time as this is a pet peave of mine you have touched on. To Wit: I am sick and tired of hearing players say "an MMO means players COOPERATE"... NO IT DOESN"T! MMO merely denotes Massively Multi Player.. no where in that phrase does it say or even imply "cooperation".** Yes cooperation is possible and may even be advatageous... but IT IS NOT INHERENT IN AN MMO. Cooperation is up to the behavior of the players to decide individually. Personally I like MMO's where it is dog-eat-dog which is part of my disatisfaction with Eve to be honest. Not enough Chaos and BSU (Blowing Shyt Up). "Got License?" - TNMF
Soi Mala Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen	Posted - 2011.05.11 14:28:00 - [38] ITT: People not understanding the difference between mechanics ruining a game, or the risk averse attitude of the players. I hope this game goes south tbh, i REALLY hope 80% of the players ragequit due to "crappy mechanics". Once they're gone, we can get on with enjoying the game as it should be enjoyed.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.11 14:33:00 - [39] Originally by: Martyr Theos Yes cooperation is possible and may even be advatageous... but IT IS NOT INHERENT IN AN MMO. àis he saying that it is? All I see him say is that it's advantageous and that this is thoroughly unsurprising. So what is it you're objecting to? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Martyr Theos The NecroMonger Faith	Posted - 2011.05.11 14:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Martyr Theos Yes cooperation is possible and may even be advatageous... but IT IS NOT INHERENT IN AN MMO. àis he saying that it is? All I see him say is that it's advantageous and that this is thoroughly unsurprising. So what is it you're objecting to? ****** I'm objecting to all the numbnuts that post crap insisting that just because a game is an "MMO" it means that cooperative behavior is required. It does not. The only thing that "MMO" means is that many, many, more than one person is playing the game. They may all be trying to eat each other or they may be simply chatting in local, but the "MMO" moniker just means lots of people are playing it. "Got License?" - TNMF

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.05.11 15:02:00 - [41] Originally by: Martyr Theos I'm objecting to all the numbnuts that post crap insisting that just because a game is an "MMO" it means that cooperative behavior is required. Yes, but again: is he saying that it is? That kind of crap is more in line with what the OP is saying: that since the game (supposedly) forces cooperation, it is not a sandbox. Malcanis seems to be suggesting that, seeing as how it's an MMO, and as how this means there are many people playing it, it's more or less to be expected that some of these will band together for mutual benefit and that this is not in any way a sign of the game going to hell in a hand-basket. Nothing is mentioned about how this behaviour is requiredà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Val'Dore Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided	Posted - 2011.05.11 15:28:00 - [42] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. Lol, Real Life is a sandbox for a very very few people. The rest are muppets that go to college (or not), get a degree (or not), then slave away at a job till they are forced to retire without a pension or benefits at 67 and are given a good reference for Wal-Mart. In EvE it isn't much better. Very few people are playing in a sandbox, the rest are playing in the sand castles those people built for them. ~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~ Tiericide
Professional Retard	Posted - 2011.05.11 15:29:00 - [43] Game is getting harder to solo, back in 08 when I first started playing, even I notice a difference in how bad it is when you roam solo and you bump into *s with falcons alts, blobs with RR and 0.0 farmers flying around 5bil faction ships in 50 man gangs of tengus. It reli didnt help that CCP nerfed true sec, now not only do we have *gots camping the entry systems with blobs...everywhere is empty besides deadend carebear constellations and going down there you are most likely to die on the way back due to 50 t2 lrg bubbles around each gate with a jb in every system and 30 ceptors and 10 falcons with carrier support all waiting at the door for you to come back.
Nemeron The Scope	Posted - 2011.05.11 15:39:00 - [44] Thats just nonsense, I recently left my corp after a long time and went NPC, i have been roaming around low sec since and had great fun including some great 1v1's. I lost 1 ship in this time to a 4 man gang but considering the systems i am moving through(repping sec so jumping a lot to make it faster) thats good going imo, Its all about knowing where to go, granted there are certain areas where a 1v1 is practically impossible but there are some great spots to raom, you just have to find them...
Lost Greybeard	Posted - 2011.05.11 15:55:00 - [45] Originally by: Martyr Theos Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Martyr Theos Yes cooperation is possible and may even be advatageous... but IT IS NOT INHERENT IN AN MMO. àis he saying that it is? All I see him say is that it's advantageous and that this is thoroughly unsurprising. So what is it you're objecting to? **** I'm objecting to all the numbnuts that post crap insisting that just because a game is an "MMO" it means that cooperative behavior is required. It does not. The only thing that "MMO" means is that many, many, more than one person is playing the game. They may all be trying to eat each other or they may be simply chatting in local, but the "MMO" moniker just means lots of people are playing it. An MMO means: (1) Large number of players (2) Communication is possible between any/all players under various conditions (3) The world/game is persistent So it's a bit more than what you're saying. By your definition, my Ventrilo server is an MMO. And while it's certainly not required in the sense that your computer will catch fire and then explode into shrapnel if you don't do it, the structure of basically any MMO is such that success at most if not all endeavors is dependent on cooperative interaction with other players. I mean, I could play Final Fantasy with only one party member, too, but if I went onto the FF forums and was a whiny little *** about not being able to down the major bosses with my solo thief then the reaction would be "well, stop being an idiot, then". And it would be merited, as is the similar reaction to people that insist on whining that soloing an MMO makes victory difficult to achieve. --- If you outlaw tautologies, only outlaws will have tautologies. ~Anonymous
Mastertz	Posted - 2011.05.11 16:05:00 - [46] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. RL isn't a sandbox. It's a black iron prison and we use games, among other things, to escape it.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.05.11 16:09:00 - [47] Originally by: Val'Dore Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. Lol, Real Life is a sandbox for a very very few people. The rest are muppets that go to college (or not), get a degree (or not), then slave away at a job till they are forced to retire without a pension or benefits at 67 and are given a good reference for Wal-Mart. In EvE it isn't much better. Very few people are playing in a sandbox, the rest are playing in the sand castles those people built for them. Bingo, 100%.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.05.11 16:13:00 - [48] Originally by: Mastertz Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. RL isn't a sandbox. It's a black iron prison and we use games, among other things, to escape it. No. Your life is your own "fault". Nobody ever forced you to live your life like you do, unless you are definitly forced into it. There are way more choices to live however it pleases you, than most people can imagine.
Mastertz	Posted - 2011.05.11 16:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Solstice Project Originally by: Mastertz Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. RL isn't a sandbox. It's a black iron prison and we use games, among other things, to escape it. No. Your life is your own "fault". Nobody ever forced you to live your life like you do, unless you are definitly forced into it. There are way more choices to live however it pleases you, than most people can imagine. I beg to differ.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.05.11 17:39:00 - [50] Originally by: Solstice Project No..... You don't get out much do you? Provided you restrict yourself to the laws of society the amount of 'freedom' you have in RL is quite limited. Do you really believe that >10% of the US population wants to live in poverty? Or that people take pride in filing for bankruptcy before they are 30 because of scrupulous bankers? On top of the 'basics' you have genetic and environmental programming throwing even more shackles on you .. so yea, gaming is very much escapism.

Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.05.11 17:58:00 - [51] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 11/05/2011 18:00:28 Originally by: Solstice Project Originally by: Mastertz Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. RL isn't a sandbox. It's a black iron prison and we use games, among other things, to escape it. No. Your life is your own "fault". Nobody ever forced you to live your life like you do, unless you are definitly forced into it. There are way more choices to live however it pleases you, than most people can imagine. Agreed. If you really think EVE offers more different possibilities than real life you really need help. And yes if you don't take them or choose to walk the usual road that's not life's fault, that's your own choice. If you only look at the number of professions you can pick ..
Mastertz	Posted - 2011.05.11 17:59:00 - [52] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 11/05/2011 17:58:18 Originally by: Solstice Project Originally by: Mastertz Originally by: Jennifer Starling Well .. what's a sandbox? Real life is a sandbox .. compared to that all games are theme parks. RL isn't a sandbox. It's a black iron prison and we use games, among other things, to escape it. No. Your life is your own "fault". Nobody ever forced you to live your life like you do, unless you are definitly forced into it. There are way more choices to live however it pleases you, than most people can imagine. Agreed. If you really think EVE offers more different possibilities than real life you really need help. And yes if you don't take them or choose to walk the usual road that's not life's fault, that's your own choice. Oh really? And how many of these different possibilities have you experienced?
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.05.11 18:03:00 - [53] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 11/05/2011 18:05:18 Originally by: Mastertz Originally by: Jennifer Starling Agreed. If you really think EVE offers more different possibilities than real life you really need help. And yes if you don't take them or choose to walk the usual road that's not life's fault, that's your own choice. Oh really? And how many of these different possibilities have you experienced? Are you really being serious? Let's say I did, saw, heard, smelled and tasted more different things IRL than the whole of what EVE has to offer? And that's just my little part.
Mastertz	Posted - 2011.05.11 18:10:00 - [54] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 11/05/2011 18:05:18 Originally by: Mastertz Originally by: Jennifer Starling Agreed. If you really think EVE offers more different possibilities than real life you really need help. And yes if you don't take them or choose to walk the usual road that's not life's fault, that's your own choice. Oh really? And how many of these different possibilities have you experienced? Are you really being serious? Let's say I did, saw, heard, smelled and tasted more different things IRL than the whole of what EVE has to offer? And that's just my little part. Maybe I should've prefaced that with interesting experiences.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.05.11 18:12:00 - [55] My avatar can't scratch its balls (nevermind it's a female avatar), the game is not a sandbox ! Hooray for non-sequiturs. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.12 01:43:00 - [56] Best I've heard it described is "Eves sandbox is 2inches deep and full of ****". It's just smoke and mirrors....
Ocih Amarr The Program Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.05.12 02:47:00 - [57] It's been like that for 8 years. Figuring out the 98% of EVE you can't do. The forums do a great job at belittling you anf attempting to make you feel small and inadequate but the truth is, you did everything right, you were simply never meant to succeed at that particular thing in EVE. It wasn't your failure. The linear mechanics obligated you to a set of definitions you simply can't manage to meet. It might be the ship, the skills, the fleet composition, one or all of the above. Bottom line, you couldn't succeeed. If you want to continue playing EVE, determine the 2% of the things you can do, do them untill you get bored out of your skull or modify your elements to allow you to do some other 2% of EVE and hope that content is available when you have the tools for it. Or quit. Not a rage quit. Just leave because the game is hollow. I do, often. Maybe the Devs will find something to add to the game that additional replay value but for now, It has none. 98% of the time you will lose your stuff. 97% of the time, you can avoid it. 2% of the time you can blow up someone elses stuff and 100% of the time they can avoid it. All ship loss now in EVE is the product of someone making a 'mistake' they knew they would lose thier ship in and they just didnt care. That lack of concern runs out with the ISK and the ISK runs out quicker now than ever. It all gets old fast and we end up here to ** and moan. I'm going to go play EVE now and do the few things I know I can succeed at. When it gets boring you won't see me for 3 or 4, maybe 6 months. If you pine away here anyway? Your a **ing fool.
Gammelvarg	Posted - 2011.05.12 03:24:00 - [58] Originally by: Giggity Giggity Gooo Weird, i have a corp mate who solos all the time in null sec, and its in a slow boating domi too. You just dont know what your doing. Proof. I count 35 ratters and one solo kill. Good solo pvper
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.05.12 04:32:00 - [59] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Best I've heard it described is "Eves sandbox is 2inches deep and full of ****". It's just smoke and mirrors.... Part of me always thinks of cats myself... but really, to a cool cat a sandbox is a good thing isn't it?
Amber Villaneous	Posted - 2011.05.12 05:12:00 - [60] EVE is no longer a sandbox. When the game can be fugged at will by CCP they are shaping it not us.



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