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Aricaan Gallente Rum and Quafe	Posted - 2011.06.09 04:15:00 - [91] I've got 99 bots, but Bender aint one! HIT ME!
Speaker4 theDead	Posted - 2011.06.09 04:51:00 - [92] So OP has decided, simply becausae the names are generally just jumbled letters, and they are in haulers, that these people are all Bots? Wow, Sherlock Holmes 2nd coming? (If you can't detect the sarcasm, I'd recommend going back to WOW)
Soilver	Posted - 2011.06.09 06:38:00 - [93] I wouldn't mind banning chars named whargarbl or afnafhalfrju
Blue Weather	Posted - 2011.06.09 06:56:00 - [94] Thank you, OP, for your hard work.
Mars Theran Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.09 07:08:00 - [95] Originally by: E man Industries good work. Good job to the player "testing" the bot and reporting it as a test. (am amazed it was not someone just saying they had but they actually had) We need to see and force CCP to take this serously(more than they are) Botters should be banned There corps should be dispanded Alliances that support botting should crumble and Ip's should be locked. This NEEDS to happen...to many bots. Oh great, so now I should not be able to play a game because of an IP ban? I've had that happen before, and have some idea what it entails. You're talking about banning some 300K homes in an area, based on their ISP issuing Dynamic IP's to a client list completely randomly. As for the rest.. go for it.
Kara Kugisa	Posted - 2011.06.09 07:58:00 - [96] Originally by: Speaker4 theDead So OP has decided, simply becausae the names are generally just jumbled letters, and they are in haulers, that these people are all Bots? Wow, Sherlock Holmes 2nd coming? (If you can't detect the sarcasm, I'd recommend going back to WOW) Re-read, he gives far more reasons than just the name such as behaviour.
Azahni Vah'nos Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.09 08:20:00 - [97] Just some questions I haven't seen answered before: 1) With regards to the bot users, are these accounts/player names flagged after being suspended so if they go to sell them it shows up? To me these accounts should be permanently marked as having been suspended for bot use. 2) What is stopping the bot account holder from moving all their ill gotten gains to another account or buddy bot user after the suspension is over? And to those that think botting and flooding the market doesn't ruin the economy ... just ask how Germany faired after WW1 with printing additional currency! Eve may be a game but it's still economically based. Sadly there will always be people who want the easy way and don't want to play the game as intended. Like peeing down a hill, it will alway find the least resistance on it's path (that's right botters your just like pee, a waste product).
The Offerer Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.09 11:12:00 - [98] Edited by: The Offerer on 09/06/2011 11:12:48 Originally by: Speaker4 theDead So OP has decided, simply becausae the names are generally just jumbled letters, and they are in haulers, that these people are all Bots? Wow, Sherlock Holmes 2nd coming? (If you can't detect the sarcasm, I'd recommend going back to WOW) After fighting them for a while (and FRAPS-ing the kills) and some of their behavior, I got to some results. - Raven flying bot owners are careless. The owner of the Raven bot network actually sits in front of computer once in every 3-4 days. Raven bots CAN be wardeced and killed. - Once you kill a Raven, it continues to warp back and forth from agent's station to the mission area (if you don't kill a pod). Downtime doesn't stop them and they never switch to another ship. After a while (sometimes a whole day or two will pass), the person controlling them creates another corp, gives his bot a new ship and it continues to work. - Ravens don't fight back or tank unless you scan him down with combat probes and attack it in its mission. In front of the station or on gates it won't even turn on the hardeners. If you scan it down and get inside its mission area, it will attack you, but only if/when you are the closest target (no rats that are closer to the Raven than you are). - All Ravens are fitted the same way and every Raven will always have Guristas Diamond tag in cargohold (for Extravaganza bonus gate). - CNR bots have another software or another settings applied. CNR bots have automatic corp generation option. You can wardec its corp and it will ignore the initial message and continue to operate normally during the 24h stasis period when you can't attack it yet. As soon as that period pass and wardec become active, it will finish its current mission, go to the station where its agent is located (80% of the time its CPF station in Waskisen), drop its current corp and automatically make another one (automatically = an actual person is not creating the new corporation). - One effective way to catch a CNR bot is to find where it's located 10-15 minutes before your wardec becomes active. If you are lucky enough, the bot will have to jump through at least one gate to get to its agent's station and make another corp. It will never dock in any other station, so you'll have a chance to catch it on the gate before it gets to its agent's system. Or, you can scan it down using combat probes and kill it in the mission area as soon as wardec becomes active. - One of the Incursion patches messed them up a bit (the mission revamp one). A large number of bots got confused and could be found 1500-2000km from the station slowboating on the undock vector. - Multi-member bot corporations (usually 2x CNR + Noctis) are working on pretty much the same principles, but with a couple of exceptions. The Noctis character is taking the missions from an agent and one or two CNRs do them. You can see that because wrecks in mission areas belong to the Noctis character even though it doesn't leave the undock area. - The Noctis will never salvage or loot the mission. I don't know if it serves as a cover only, or the salvaging feature haven't been built yet, but the Noctis will not loot or salvage the mission. - Ravens and CNRs will not loot the wrecks, except when it have to get the mission objective. When it gets a mission with an objective that has to be looted, it will target, tractor beam/slowboat (CNR vs Raven behavior) the exact wreck/container where the objective should be placed and ignore everything else. If you kill the objective rat yourself, the wreck still belongs to the mission owner (Noctis character) because it's his mission (didn't know before about that mechainc either). However, if you loot the wreck and grab the objective, it will get confused and get stuck to the empty wreck where it expects to find the objective. If you salvage the wreck, it will find switch its attention to the closest wreck/container on the field and repeat the action...
The Offerer Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.09 11:12:00 - [99] - Once you have the mission objective you can't do much with it, even if you jettison it near the bot. If the objective is in your container, it will approach it and try to take the loot, but will not do it because of the "Are you sure you want to steal?" dialog. When it gets the message, the bot will warp out of the mission area. - The reason for leaving the area without looting mission objective from your can could be: 1) Raven/CNR detects the pop-up dialog, detects there's something wrong and cancel the mission. 2) Raven/CNR "thinks" it have the mission objective in the cargohold because it "saw" it in the mission area, gets to the station, tries to finish the mission, but fails. One thing is certain - it have a fail-safe mechanism to decline a mission if it couldn't get the objective. - Some bots belonging to a different naming pattern have an interesting feature that don't allow you to kill it on the station. They are known to dock back as soon as they get attacked. It will then stay in the station for exactly 15 minutes - until the yellow aggro timer comes out. Everything else about this group is the same as with regular Ravens. You can kill those in mission area or on the gate. Did I earn a Sherlock badge yet? Btw. we are not talking about some player that runs a bot or two to fund his PvP or get an extra ISK. We are talking about a huge bot network created for the sole purpose of botting. Those 99 listed are just the half of what I have now on my watch list. Incursion 1.6 patch killed many of them, including the ones that were not initially reported in this thread, but belong to the same network. Whether CCP found them themselves or used additional reports from other players, I don't really know. The fact is, out of 170+ bots that were active before the 1.6 patch, 140-150 haven't logged in since the patch went live.
Khavi Kitamatsu	Posted - 2011.06.09 12:13:00 - [100] Originally by: Puck Rodgers Edited by: Puck Rodgers on 13/05/2011 22:55:47 bots aren't ruining the game. Eve sucks to begin with, its a ** game that consist off logging in training a skill and logging off. who cares about bots? no-one with a life is gonna keep interested in this game for longer then 2 months, its boring as hell. and before u can do anything thats remotely interesting you need to train skills for 2 years. ** eve. ps: i think there should be more bots, so new players can buy a character thats doesn't require to log on and log off for 2 years before you can do anything. I heard that CCP twist peoples arms to play this game and threatens to break both legs later if they don't stay subscribed. Mostly it is what I heard...mostly.
Terrante Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.09 12:28:00 - [101] Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu I heard that CCP twist peoples arms to play this game and threatens to break both legs later if they don't stay subscribed. Mostly it is what I heard...mostly. Very true this!
oh comeon	Posted - 2011.06.09 13:15:00 - [102] great job OP. home some GM will take notice and do something. keep it up !
Bklyn 1	Posted - 2011.06.09 13:42:00 - [103] Funny how you can tell who the isk buyers/botters are in these threads - sure, every character with a name like kljdflkd is totally legit! Anyway - great job OP! Do you have a public channel for people to report intel and so forth?
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet	Posted - 2011.06.09 13:51:00 - [104] Originally by: The Offerer - Ravens don't fight back or tank unless you scan him down with combat probes and attack it in its mission. In front of the station or on gates it won't even turn on the hardeners. If you scan it down and get inside its mission area, it will attack you, but only if/when you are the closest target (no rats that are closer to the Raven than you are). CONCORDOKEN...?
Cebraio	Posted - 2011.06.09 14:02:00 - [105] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Originally by: The Offerer - Ravens don't fight back or tank unless you scan him down with combat probes and attack it in its mission. In front of the station or on gates it won't even turn on the hardeners. If you scan it down and get inside its mission area, it will attack you, but only if/when you are the closest target (no rats that are closer to the Raven than you are). CONCORDOKEN...? I think that part relates to bots that have been wardec'ed to be able to engage them. Awesome work, OP! I am thinking about getting into bot killing business now. _________________________ Vote NO on Micro-Transactions
The Offerer Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.09 16:25:00 - [106] Originally by: Bklyn 1 Funny how you can tell who the isk buyers/botters are in these threads - sure, every character with a name like kljdflkd is totally legit! Anyway - great job OP! Do you have a public channel for people to report intel and so forth? Not me as I don't have much time to play these days. But you can join this one: Originally by: NinjaSpud Hey guys, I just created an in-game channel called Bot Grief Feel free to join it to discuss the current bot problem. Originally by: Cebraio Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Originally by: The Offerer - Ravens don't fight back or tank unless you scan him down with combat probes and attack it in its mission. In front of the station or on gates it won't even turn on the hardeners. If you scan it down and get inside its mission area, it will attack you, but only if/when you are the closest target (no rats that are closer to the Raven than you are). CONCORDOKEN...? I think that part relates to bots that have been wardec'ed to be able to engage them. Correct.
Darcy D'Spledide	Posted - 2011.06.09 17:41:00 - [107] amazing work OP.
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.09 18:21:00 - [108] Originally by: Peregrine So are we to understand that you and your friend purposely got a bot and set it up botting for the purpose of complaining about the use of said bot and ccp's reaction to the information. I wonder if that is bannable and if it were I suspect your "confession" may be all that is required to ban you. Just wondering of course. Pretty simple situation right now, everyone is having a really, really hard time believing anything CCP says. Too many disappointments, too many dropped balls, over-the-top release/patch failures, no proof of action... What's that old sayin'? Trust, but verify? So certainly, when you break the trust - you should expect to be verified...
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.09 18:30:00 - [109] Originally by: The Offerer Edited by: The Offerer on 09/06/2011 11:38:40 Edited by: The Offerer on 09/06/2011 11:31:58 Did I earn a Sherlock badge yet? oh yeah. Definitely! Nicely done - The Offerer
cyno troll	Posted - 2011.06.09 19:15:00 - [110] Originally by: Maverick2011 Only a bot user will defend possible bots to try to avoid being discovered or keep the word that theres no such thing as bots and hacking in online games. You will surely be surprised to learn that there are trolls and idiots on the interweb.
xian2	Posted - 2011.06.09 22:55:00 - [111] Originally by: Ana Vyr They should make bot hunting part of the game. Call them replicants or cyborgs or androids or just "awakened" drones that are trying to pass themselves off as capsuleers, and reward players for finding them with LP or ISK or something. I think the folks dedicated to finding these cheaters should be rewarded somehow. +1
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.09 23:01:00 - [112] Originally by: CCP Sreegs Originally by: Jyana Petrovskaya i'm quite sure CCP give a ** about bots. a friend of mine and i tried how fast ccp reacts on a bot report he startet using a bot wich he found by google and botted for 10 days or so (its an injection bot so we thought hey ccp is going to bust him within hours but nothign happend) after that i wrote a petition with the char name, the patters he's using and a link to the botting site and added a detailed description of the bot behaviour. standard bla bla we're looking into it and peti now closed bull**. still nothing happened after that i red on the forums that we could contact ccp sreegs directly by mailing to [email protected] so i did and yet no answer nor a ban of the named acc. hes still botting for like 10h to 15h per day in the same system the mail i'v sent: Hi CCP Security Staff, On my journey trough the Internet i discovered the Site http://www.xxxxxx.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2&Itemid=2 (xxxSoft xxx space xxx an Option to Highjack the Client) and Quxxx http://forum.xxxx.com/yaf_topics2_xxx.aspx (dotnet App running on xxxx Framework ) Bot able to run missions. I already detected the User Txxx Dxxxx using this kind of bot to run Lvl 4 Missions. The Bot itself directly writes into the Client without interacting with the UI. It seems that the python27.dll is somehow of a keyfile for the Bot to directly Access Eve Functions. Im not that much into Programming as you are, so pls have a look and maybe you are able to prevent Users of using this Kind of Bot Regards xxxx its been sent on the 25th of march 2011 Suffice to say I did receive your email and I apologize that I don't respond to every single one I get. I can't discuss specific actions related to a specific bot or botter. This makes the security inbox appear to be a black hole but we're working on some ways to rectify that. No doubt CCP is studying the bot behavior in order to establish a template that can be used as a litmus test that can be applied to other botters. In other words, they win by giving them enough rope...'til they hang themselves.
Rize Overload	Posted - 2011.06.10 11:34:00 - [113] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: Peregrine So are we to understand that you and your friend purposely got a bot and set it up botting for the purpose of complaining about the use of said bot and ccp's reaction to the information. I wonder if that is bannable and if it were I suspect your "confession" may be all that is required to ban you. Just wondering of course. Pretty simple situation right now, everyone is having a really, really hard time believing anything CCP says. Too many disappointments, too many dropped balls, over-the-top release/patch failures, no proof of action... What's that old sayin'? Trust, but verify? So certainly, when you break the trust - you should expect to be verified... Very well said.
Khmoud Hasjiz	Posted - 2011.06.10 11:45:00 - [114] dont put ur hope in ccp to counter these bots, they will maybe give em a one day ban... better to keep wardecing them and hope to catch one or two of em or just suicide gank em
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.11 21:17:00 - [115] I can confirm that many of those and hundreds of other were mission botting my system around the clock up til last week when they were banned. (yes I scanned them down and follow them to see what they were doing and how they were doing it). my system was actually empty for the first time in aobut a year .. on a side not the population has started to increase again with less obvious names and corps.. but I suspect bot still I will follow them one at a time.

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