As mission runners, do you actively vote for CSM's when candidates campaign? Do you tell your non-forum counterparts to vote? Do you even care? I'm curious to know because, as CSM 8 is coming up, I see people screaming death to high sec and miners and just about no one on the other side shouting back.

Like...no one. No one to defend PvE, missioning, high sec life, high sec mining, etc. All I see are people like James315 and Tippia touting either risk v rewards rants or simple hate mongering against people like miners.

So, do you lot care much at all and try to get others involved?

If not well, I guess the others are right, and you all get what you deserve sadly; being walked on by the "l33t" crowd.

Yes, it is. Would you like to keep it that way is my question. You've seen GD and gods know how many other threads regarding nerfing highsec. My question is if the actual nerfing of highsec has ever really gotten high sec people to want to vote to ensure their play style remains their play style and is not interfered with.

Oh gotcha.

I always figured a good portion of highsec were the 'married with children' crowd and not really into the CSM stuff or forums either for that matter. Nullsec/lowsec has been whining so long about being fixed I'm not sure many people listen to it anymore, I sure don't

Though there's lots of chest-beating and verbal hatred spewed toward denizens of highsec, the actual threat feels pretty minimal. Sure, every once in a while something like Hulkageddon happens, but even then, it's usually pretty easy to avoid if you're willing to adapt a bit.

CSM is good for sanity-checking some of the stuff CCP proposes, but I don't really think they're a huge threat to highsec life, even if each and every one of them came out and said they wanted to see highsec flat-out removed. CCP is going to do what is best for CCP, and even though I'm sure they want to gently guide people out into the scarier parts of the universe, they wouldn't dare kill the viability of highsec life entirely, as that would drive away a significant income base.

tl;dr Adapt and carry on with whatever playstyle you prefer. Don't worry so much about who hates you.

And what happens if it continues? What happens if CSM members keep pushing for events like that and continue to push for high sec nerfs and suddenly, those threats become tangible?

Then the game will become boring and tedious for me and I will vote with my wallet and go find something else to play. Many others will probably do the same. In numbers, that's going to be a much more effective message than any CSM member could deliver.

Would it be nice to have a highsec representative on the CSM? Sure, I guess. Problem is, there aren't a lot of highsec players widely enough known to garner the support needed.

ill run for csm

Most politicians aren't widely known prior to election to major office. They run a campaign. If ONE high sec person was aggressive enough to speak out against nul/low full representation on the CSM, it would be enough. I like Eve, a lot. I've been on it since 2007. I'd rather people not need to vote with their wallet and simply leave.

lol, on what platform :P

carebears dont need representation on CSM, CCP represents them directly.

Most politicians aren't widely known prior to election to major office. They run a campaign. If ONE high sec person was aggressive enough to speak out against nul/low full representation on the CSM, it would be enough. I like Eve, a lot. I've been on it since 2007. I'd rather people not need to vote with their wallet and simply leave.

I wouldn't worry about the hatred if it did not have the potential threat to the playstyles of highsec casuals.

Could you describe the nature of the threat you perceive? Because I'm having trouble imagining it.

In general just increased polarization between nul/low and high, pvp vs pve. It's gone from acceptance and occasional poking fun at to blatant hostility and hatred.

Like a poster before said, the forum is not by any means the majority of Eve opinion. It's a vocal minority spewing hate. I'm concerned that the trend of hate spewing will continue to spread and that vocal minority becomes a vocal majority after a year or two. Hell maybe it'll never happen and I'm worried for nothing. I hope it doesn't. I really do.

But I'm not saying that the threat would be that high sec is simply gotten rid of. I'm concerned about things like moving the majority of missions to lowsec, removing most ores from highsec save for worthless kinds, removing ice belts, forcing people out of NPC corps at certain times or limiting what they could do IN an NPC corp, etc.

THOSE are my concerns. Not eliminating highsec, but lobbying for its nerfing.

if highsec is removed this is what will happen:
1. a major shitstorm on the forums. think incarna debacle x3
2. 50-60% of eve players leave for greener pastures, including your humble servant
3. eve economy collapses and small corps slowly die out, leading to another exodus
4. ccp realizes their mistake and may or may not be able to keep the game running
5a. ccp goes bankrupt
5b. hisec is brought back into the game, and is slowly but surely repopulated until ~10 years from now, everything is back to the current state.

HOLY ****!!! The sky! It's falling!

So much paranoia regarding high sec, so little common sense.