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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.02.12 04:53:00 -
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Seems they left XF to declare their own wars.
Funny how the usual Xetic "diplotmats" are again found to by hypocrits.
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CYVOK
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:16:00 -
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yet another alt, this crap is getting old, use your main chicken...
DDC requested that they be allowd to leave the official in game alliance so that they could persue a personal matter against another corp operating in the region DDC operates in.
XF was fully prepared to declare on behalf of the entire alliance, we did not at the request of DDC.
DDC is still a full and well respected member Corp of XF.
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:16:00 -
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Edited by: Primer Xenius on 12/02/2005 05:16:27 Alts...
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:18:00 -
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:36:00 -
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Me being an does not diminish the fact you are hypocrits.
Atleast everyone can see it now (again).
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Neslo
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:51:00 -
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How is this not flamebait? Anyways IBTL... this thread posts no useful information and the author is starting to flame. IBTL... From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Neslo How is this not flamebait? Anyways IBTL... this thread posts no useful information and the author is starting to flame. IBTL...
Ok, how is this flame bait? DDC left XF and started a war. One corporation named Supremacy did this and XF made post after post about.
Just because its the truth and the truth makes you look bad doesnt mean it violates any rules.
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Neslo
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Posted - 2005.02.12 05:55:00 -
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Edited by: Neslo on 12/02/2005 05:58:33 When it's a flame it does. And even if it wasn't (which it is) you have to post something constructive, and saying someone is a hypocrit isn't constructive it's just name calling... so like i said before... IBTL From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Steel Rat
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Posted - 2005.02.12 06:07:00 -
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The complaint was not that Supremacy left to declare war, they left 1 Alliance to declare on an another alliance.
We are not declaring on an alliance. We are declaring on some pirates corps. We chose to make this a corp vs corp situation.
Funny thing is, if Xetic had declared, we would have someone just like you in here complaining how it takes 4600 members to fight a corp of 10-20.
The problem with alts, they are never statisfied.
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Crass Spektakel
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Posted - 2005.02.12 06:25:00 -
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> Funny how the usual Xetic "diplotmats" are again found to by hypocrits.
Could you please spell- and grammarcheck your post? It makes completely no sense at all.
Crass Spektakel
life is short and in most cases it ends with death but my tombstone will carry the hiscore
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Neslo
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Posted - 2005.02.12 06:29:00 -
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Edited by: Neslo on 12/02/2005 06:31:58
Originally by: Charlena Me being an does not diminish the fact you are hypocrits.
Atleast everyone can see it now (again).
Well since we are correcting grammar... I think we are missing a word here... was that supposed to be "Me being an alt?" or you being an rear end? I dunno they are so interchangable in this author's instance..
See how constructive is this thread becoming... no no.. this isn't flamebait... but I guess if you consider that this person is getting free grammar lessons... It is semi-constructive... but then it becomes off topic of the forum's purpose, which is to talk about Eve Corporations and Communities...
Nes From Ashes to Ashes... From Dust to Dust....
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Crass Spektakel
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Posted - 2005.02.12 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Crass Spektakel on 12/02/2005 06:49:16 I am NOT talking about some spõlling-mistakes or some word-upmixups.
I am talking about a post which makes as much sense as my head falling on my keyboard.
Asking for Spell- and Grammarchecking reminds me about the guy with the McChicken-Sixpack coming to the veterinary: "Doctor, can you make it healthy again?"
Crass Spektakel
life is short and in most cases it ends with death but my tombstone will carry the hiscore
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.02.12 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Neslo Edited by: Neslo on 12/02/2005 06:31:58
Originally by: Charlena Me being an does not diminish the fact you are hypocrits.
Atleast everyone can see it now (again).
Well since we are correcting grammar... I think we are missing a word here... was that supposed to be "Me being an alt?" or you being an rear end? I dunno they are so interchangable in this author's instance..
See how constructive is this thread becoming... no no.. this isn't flamebait... but I guess if you consider that this person is getting free grammar lessons... It is semi-constructive... but then it becomes off topic of the forum's purpose, which is to talk about Eve Corporations and Communities...
Nes
Only thing off topic here is you.
Nothing changes the fact that you guys are hypocrits. Its pretty obvious to this reader. I read post after post about supremacy attacking you, now you guys do the same thing. That kind sir is what this is about.
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.02.12 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Crass Spektakel Edited by: Crass Spektakel on 12/02/2005 06:49:16 I am NOT talking about some spõlling-mistakes or some word-upmixups.
I am talking about a post which makes as much sense as my head falling on my keyboard.
Asking for Spell- and Grammarchecking reminds me about the guy with the McChicken-Sixpack coming to the veterinary: "Doctor, can you make it healthy again?"
Hi, let me explain.
SUPRM leaves CA SUPRM declares war on XF XF makes posts and post on forums about it saying CA and SUPRM are exploiters DDC leaves XF (still member in principal) DDC starts wars XF tries to hide truth
Clear now?
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Adhamhnon
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Posted - 2005.02.12 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Charlena
Hi, let me explain.
SUPRM leaves CA SUPRM declares war on XF XF makes posts and post on forums about it saying CA and SUPRM are exploiters DDC leaves XF (still member in principal) DDC starts wars XF tries to hide truth
Clear now?
Tries to hide truth? Both a Xetic rep and a DDC rep have explained what they did and why. That's not really hiding is it? If you think so, you must have really sucked at hide and go seek when you were a kid.
It's quite clear here that you're the one with an agenda here, and that's slamming Xetic without putting yourself at any risk at all. If you're so high and mighty, lets see your main, otherwise, you're the one hiding the truth, not Xetic.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.12 08:07:00 -
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SUPRM - CA DDC - XF
Same story, cut the bull****.
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Charlena
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Posted - 2005.02.12 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Adhamhnon
Originally by: Charlena
Hi, let me explain.
SUPRM leaves CA SUPRM declares war on XF XF makes posts and post on forums about it saying CA and SUPRM are exploiters DDC leaves XF (still member in principal) DDC starts wars XF tries to hide truth
Clear now?
Tries to hide truth? Both a Xetic rep and a DDC rep have explained what they did and why. That's not really hiding is it? If you think so, you must have really sucked at hide and go seek when you were a kid.
It's quite clear here that you're the one with an agenda here, and that's slamming Xetic without putting yourself at any risk at all. If you're so high and mighty, lets see your main, otherwise, you're the one hiding the truth, not Xetic.
Is it really that hard to understand?
I don't care about reasons or excuses. Fact is XF does exactly what they flamed CA for. This is why I said they were hypcrites. If you cannot understand this, then I am sorry for.
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.02.12 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: HC MasiEEE on 12/02/2005 11:14:55 Alts  __________ HC MasiEEE
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Fred0
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Posted - 2005.02.12 10:28:00 -
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Fact is. XF explained the difference. They obviously think it's enough to warrant their behaviour. What an alt thinks doesn't matter so much.
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Monkiboy
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Posted - 2005.02.12 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Monkiboy on 12/02/2005 10:40:40 To be honest, as a member of Supremacy- I really could care less what dirty deeds or xetic do.
Keep in mind, they can do no wrong in their own eyes. There is always a publicly palatable explanation for their behavior- even if it's contrived and creative.
I seriously wouldnt waste my time pointing out hypocrisy in xetic- as the only people who will agree, already know of it. The people who will disagree, are personally invested in that fact not being substantiated publicly- ie. xetic.
While I dont see your comment as flamebait per se, I do understand that you can expect a long stream of abuse from Xetic.
Keep in mind, it was xetic members that were spamming Supremacy members in empire that Xetic was winning. We look at our kills and our losses and we wonder how they can say such things. The answer is simple- because it's xetic. Keep this in mind next time you reply to an xetic poster- no matter how much common sense you apply- they just dont get it, they never will- so dont bother.
An example of Xetic hypocrisy- we're slandered for conquering JQA, a "democracy", yet Xetic are quite happy to falsely take credit for conquering CA, which was also a "democracy". Because we werent friends with Xetic- obviously makes the latter perfectly ok, but the former not ok. Go figure.
Monkiboy
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Smith
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Posted - 2005.02.12 11:04:00 -
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If corps want one on one thats cool with me.
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Yeux Gris
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Posted - 2005.02.12 11:17:00 -
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Hahahaha this is a ***** up...
this sounds like a episode of X files :P only eve styles

Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...!
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Shafty
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Posted - 2005.02.12 11:26:00 -
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DDC its not our band of merry heroes your declaring on is it? If so you got the pirate bit wrong, we are simple country folk.
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Marconious
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Posted - 2005.02.12 12:05:00 -
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You gotta love XF 
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Trezerami
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Posted - 2005.02.12 12:49:00 -
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DDC declares war on some lame, logging, empire running, Providence 'pirates' who run to empire as soon as anything bigger than a Indy comes at them. So now they will get spanked in empire. OMG the hyprocrisy, the drama. FFS get over yourselves and post with your main so they can delcare on you also. But let me guess your an ALT of the lame providence pirates and your a little miffed because you can't run and hide in empire any more.
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.02.12 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: olyyyyy on 12/02/2005 12:55:05 [edited]
Supremacy leaves CA to engage XF in Empire space because CA either lacks of balls or either lack of funds.
DDC leaves XF to engage pirates exploiting empire to hide from DDC fleets. like "omgbuhu DDC fleet is coming let's all jump back to empire to hide !"
The whole XF declaring war upon those corps was like trying to kill a fly with an hammer and those corps would have cried us rivers about 4400 pilots attacking them. And finaly, those pirate corps are not part of an alliance.
Soooo... the only hypocrits are AGAIN Supremacy and the noobs flaming alts, flaming alts being a long time tradition kept from CA times. (edited)
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Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |

Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.02.12 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
DDC requested that they be allowd to leave the official in game alliance so that they could persue a personal matter against another corp operating in the region DDC operates in.
XF was fully prepared to declare on behalf of the entire alliance, we did not at the request of DDC.
DDC is still a full and well respected member Corp of XF.
Originally by: Steel Rat
The complaint was not that Supremacy left to declare war, they left 1 Alliance to declare on an another alliance.
We are not declaring on an alliance. We are declaring on some pirates corps. We chose to make this a corp vs corp situation.
The situation has already been explained. This does not make them hypocrits.
Originally by: Charlena
Nothing changes the fact that you guys are hypocrits. Its pretty obvious to this reader.
The only thing "obvious" to the reader is that alts too scared to post their viewpoints with their mains need to grow a pair or STFU.
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.02.12 13:18:00 -
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Nothing wrong with wars. If DDC want to kill people without the politics of an alliance surounding them, good luck to them. Does it really matter what their reasons are? I say fair play to them to come out from an alliance and fight corp vs corp, it shows balls . And although i`m not a personal fan of xetic or the way they operate, some of them are nice guys and wish them well with whatever they decide to do.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2005.02.12 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: olyyyyy
Supremacy leaves CA to engage XF in Empire space because CA either lacks of balls or either lack of funds.
Inflammatroy and wrong. That is the assumption of yourself and several others despite numerous poeple saying what the case actually was. Unless of course you have evidence from the CA council forums which specifically says that this was a CA council sponsered operation? If so, feel free to post your evidence. I believe that Thol posted on the CA internal forums what we would be doing after we had decided internally that we would be doing. Nice and democratic like. 
As has been stated and accepted by many Xetic members, SUPRM (one corporation) declared war on Xetic (a whole alliance) and Founatin (a whole alliance) at that time because of a number of reasons including 1)Membership of SUPRM voted on which alliances to declare on, 2) it was different from anything we'd done before, 3) why not? It was only what, a million a week for a corp to war dec an alliance? 4)We knew we'd get some good fights in empire against Xetic (not Xetic + SE + ATUK) because of the large Xetic player base and certain corporations like DDC and possibly against Fountain, though we weren't sure on that.
Many SUPRM members, like in other corps have enough to fund alliance vs alliance wars for long periods of time, so the cash idea is out the window as well. SUPRM members wanted something different, a challenege. Xetic and Fountain provided that avenue.
Originally by: olyyyyy
Soooo... the only hypocrits are AGAIN Supremacy and the noobs flaming alts, flaming alts being a long time tradition kept from CA times. [edited]
Olyyy, Mind if I ask specifically what Monkiboy said was hypocritical? I'm guessing it was him because from Maasu isn't very hypocritical. Because I'm guessing that you are accusing SUPRM because of your apparent rabid attack dog manner SUPRM-are-your-nemesis-must-blame-them-for-everything kinda mannerisms . 
Mind you, whenever I point out your inconsistancies you never seem to reply. *chuckles* At least Primer has the good grace to discuss things or corroborate his points . . . unlike yourself. Ah well.
Personally I'm not too bothered by what DDC are doing. They can decide when and what they want to do, same as SUPRM could and did. Have fun DDC, you were good opponents in empire.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Pylse
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Posted - 2005.02.12 14:23:00 -
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I'll just be civilized here and say GL to DDC in their war against this Pirate corp of theirs.
Fighting DDC used to be fun after the first couple of days when they stopped hugging the stations =D
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