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Test Build
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Posted - 2011.05.17 16:34:00 -
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I understand that some items are like hotcakes, and even running half a dozen different orders for the same item I'm having to update constantly.
Should I go for smaller orders, to try to get the other traders to go 'meh its only a few, I cant be bothered changing my price'?
Will orders for several hundred thou, say on an item that trades under a mill a day, force them to change pricing as a priority? At what point do you think I can stay under the radar? (on say 1 mill traded a day)
First time trying to trade in Jita...I'm digging it, I spotted my alt 2B, there's some serious pvp going on inside 4-4. :)
Keeping my split over 10% and trying real hard not to bail out on buys thus wasting my fees. I even cracked out my old highschool calculator.
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Jordus Melicia
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Posted - 2011.05.17 17:04:00 -
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i just 0.01isk them till they get bored.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.17 17:14:00 -
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Trade the market not against other traders.
Don't be the fool that spends all day -0.01 ISKing, spend your time learning to read/understand the market.
The market fluctuates; get used to reading it and knowing where to price to ensure you orders will fill and your stuff will sell.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.17 17:16:00 -
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Trade the market not against other traders. The people that spends all day -0.01 ISKing their orders are fools. Instead spend your time learning to read the market. It fluctuates; understand where to price to ensure you orders will fill and your stuff sells.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.05.17 18:28:00 -
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Walk very slowly, don't smile with your teeth and avoid eye contact.
Not putting up your entire stack at once might be a good move too if you want to prevent collapsing the price.
Go make a new disaster, that's what I'm counting on. You're someone else's problem, now I only want you gone... |
Serene Python
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Posted - 2011.05.17 18:49:00 -
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I usually brush my hand lightly against their neck as they walk by, and breath lightly into their ear whispering "0.01 isk me baby" and if they respond positively I'll nibble on their ear for a quick second
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2011.05.17 23:26:00 -
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I'm assuming your question is about active station trading in Jita in pretty heavily traded items.
(there are less active types of trading... finding items where people only update their prices a few times a day, finding items where the guys who update non stop go to bed and let you have the market for a period of time each day, geting accustomed to price's in some items and doing something closer to "swing trading" where you're not taking any long term opinion on an item other than you are confident that it will trade in a range where you items priced above the market or below the market will be sold or filled sometime within a few days or a few weeks.
but addressing the active trading...you just need to do it more than the next guy and be patient with that, or be willing to trade at almost no profit for a while and have the capital to take on an hold lots of inventory if he drops it on you, or have a source for more inventory to drop on him if he buys yours and prices it upward.
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Gillaboo
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Posted - 2011.05.18 11:18:00 -
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get them drunk?
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Vernn Miller
Caldari Dreddit
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Posted - 2011.05.18 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Serene Python I usually brush my hand lightly against their neck as they walk by, and breath lightly into their ear whispering "0.01 isk me baby" and if they respond positively I'll nibble on their ear for a quick second
This made me giggle and at the same time has aroused me .
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Mu-Shi Ai
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Posted - 2011.05.19 01:53:00 -
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If you're working out of Jita, you can be sure that what's happening is not really a product of "spooking" anybody. It's just a very active, competitive marketplace. Basically nothing you can do is going to make any long-term, reliable difference in how hard the competition tries to stay on top.
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Monstress
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Posted - 2011.05.19 02:00:00 -
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Jita is simply too competitive. If you want to station trade without the hassle of .01 isking every 30 minutes to an hour, try the secondary hubs like Amarr or Dodixie.
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Jaseara
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Posted - 2011.05.19 12:38:00 -
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Agree, there is a thousands of ways to earn ISK instead of 0,01 boring war on market. Even as someone said if it's hotcake item on jita market. And in the same time I'm so suprised how many ppl fall into buy order scam on market, volume tab doesnt exist for them...
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Caleb Ayrania
Gallente TarNec
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Posted - 2011.05.19 13:36:00 -
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I prefer splitting my piles..
Using loss leaders and back stocked philosophy.. Tycoon wannabe go here: SCC Lounge cocktails and Dreams. |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.05.19 14:07:00 -
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Sometimes the best move is to buy out the other traders and then you can set the market.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Athar Mu
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.20 11:26:00 -
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Split your orders up, don't try and sell a large portion of the daily traded volume for any item. Be diverse, have lots of small orders rather than a few big orders. Yes, one item might net you lots of isk per unit sold but if you cant sell them then you cant get the profit. Be prepared to drop an item and move on quickly, especially if you want fast turnover.
So say 1 mil units are sold of Item P (why everyone uses X I have never understood) a day then only try and sell 50k. Put the isk that you would have dumped into a large amount of Item P and put it into smaller quantities of Items Q, R, S and T and then sell them. Once you have the isk you can start trading all the letters of the alphabet. Lots of small orders is better than a few big orders. This protects you from losing heavily as well, because if one item crashes you aren't losing billions only a few million.
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Netheranthem
Eve Engineering Finance Eve Engineering
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Posted - 2011.05.20 11:28:00 -
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10% spread seems high.
You should be able to work for as less as 3%, depending on the item.
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