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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Bruce Leihman on 21/05/2011 19:19:44
I have created an excell file that will tell you which PI is profitable from purchasing the lower grade PI from a hub. It will also calculate your daily profit from what you want to make along with how much you will make with the industry you have on your planet. I've seen a max of about 250 Million daily from a single PI material since I have been using this.
http://evepi.webs.com/
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Loraine Gess on 21/05/2011 19:33:26
Edited by: Loraine Gess on 21/05/2011 19:30:15
Send an Eve Mail to Bruce Leihman with you e-mail Address and contract Bruce Leihman 1,000,000,000 isk. You will have the file within 1 Day. (See Referral Program)
The 1 Billion Isk price will only be available for the first 100 people. After that the price will be set at 1.5 Billion. So Hurry now.
Shall I also mention the market volatility that makes this worthless? Just because you found a market niche (or probably didn't, this is almost certainly a scam) doesn't mean you can turn 200m a day with factory planets.
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What this will allow you to do is buy PI material of a lower grade and manufacture it to a higher grade making you profit!!!
Gasp? A spreadsheet will allow me to do a very basic process of the EVE economy?!
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On top, it will tell you how many units of the lower grade PI you will need to buy in order to turn them into the profitable high grade PI you wish to make.
Oh **** it can do basic division!
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With Level 5 Command Center and Consolidation you can have 25 Advanced Industrial centers and one spaceport on 6 planets!!!!!
REALLY? Thanks, you didn't emphasize it enough.
I, too, can color excel boxes and enter numbers. Making a spreadsheet requires actual effort, however.
Not to mention you took about 5 minutes to create this website off a free template.
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:34:00 -
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No scam. There isn't an excel file like this yet. I might as well take advantage of this while I can. Go do the math on making Hermetic Membranes from buying the Polyaramids and Genetically enhanced Livestock. You will see you can make 19,600 isk profit per unit by buying the P2 to make it. Now multiply it by maxin the advanced Industrial centers you can place on each planet multiplied by how many planets you use....it works.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:47:00 -
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Show an example of the spreadsheet then. The info would only be good for about 24 hours, the worth of it is in the fact that you could be assed to put together all the additions, multiplications, and divsions and FUN **** that generally accompanies spreadsheet making.
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:49:00 -
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There is an example on the website.......
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 19:54:00 -
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An example of the ENTIRE spreadsheet. I could type up the numbers for 3 products in 5 minutes. 
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:00:00 -
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I'm only showing a couple....thus an example.....It has ALL P1, P2, P3 and P4 items in the file.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
I'm only showing a couple....thus an example.....It has ALL P1, P2, P3 and P4 items in the file.
Yes I'm sure it does. Prove it.
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:22:00 -
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.......OK........
To make 3 Hermetic Membranes (P3) is 1 hour in Advanced Insutry.
To make 1 cycle above (1 hour) you need.......
10 Polyaramids (P2) @ 8,900 isk = 89,000 isk
10 Genetically Enhanced Livestock (P2) @ 6,500 isk = 65,000 isk
Total investment so far = 154,000 isk.
You will make 3 Hermetic Membranes from the above.
1 Hermetic Membrane sell for 70,996 isk.
3 Hermetic Membranes sell for 212998 isk. (This is how many is made from the P2 above)
So, you invest 154,000 with P2 and make 212,000 from the P3.
Profit is 58,998 isk per cycle (hour) OR 19,666 per unit made per 1 hour.
Now, put 24 advanced industrial on a planet....thats 24*58,998 = 1,415,952 isk per hour for 1 planet.
Now, put 24 advanced industry on 6 planets.....thats 6*1,415,952 = 8,495,712 isk per hour for 6 planets.
Now, multiply it by 24 hours for the day......thats 24*8,495,712 = 203,897,088 isk per day.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
.......OK........
To make 3 Hermetic Membranes (P3) is 1 hour in Advanced Insutry.
To make 1 cycle above (1 hour) you need.......
10 Polyaramids (P2) @ 8,900 isk = 89,000 isk
10 Genetically Enhanced Livestock (P2) @ 6,500 isk = 65,000 isk
Total investment so far = 154,000 isk.
You will make 3 Hermetic Membranes from the above.
1 Hermetic Membrane sell for 70,996 isk.
3 Hermetic Membranes sell for 212998 isk. (This is how many is made from the P2 above)
So, you invest 154,000 with P2 and make 212,000 from the P3.
Profit is 58,998 isk per cycle (hour) OR 19,666 per unit made per 1 hour.
Now, put 24 advanced industrial on a planet....thats 24*58,998 = 1,415,952 isk per hour for 1 planet.
Now, put 24 advanced industry on 6 planets.....thats 6*1,415,952 = 8,495,712 isk per hour for 6 planets.
Now, multiply it by 24 hours for the day......thats 24*8,495,712 = 203,897,088 isk per day.
You have proved that you can use a calculator. Congratulations, you are now at a 4th grader level.
Would you like to move up to 5th grade by actually proving you can make a spreadsheet by just posting a picture of the full thing?
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Johnny Enaluri
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Johnny Enaluri on 21/05/2011 20:32:48
You have to be able to sell the products to make that amount in a day. While yes I'm sure it's a handy tool for telling people what is profitable to make, you still have to be able to move that product.
Meaning just like profit per day calculators for building ships, mods or inventing, it's all up to the market in the end meaning the tools aren't very accurate for real income.
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Bruce Leihman on 21/05/2011 20:34:03
ill do better. here is a locked file with a couple EXAMPLES only.
http://evepi.webs.com/PI%20Chart%20EX.xls
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
Edited by: Bruce Leihman on 21/05/2011 20:37:45
Edited by: Bruce Leihman on 21/05/2011 20:34:03
ill do better. here is a locked file with a couple EXAMPLES only.
http://evepi.webs.com/PIChartEX.xls
Yes because we might steal your simple addition cells.
All this does is prove that it's a fabrication.
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:40:00 -
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k. I'm done. Troll away.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.21 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
k. I'm done. Troll away.
Can I have your stuff?
Really, I gave you a very easy way to prove it. You're not even willing to do that. If your product was actually worth something (i.e. existed at all) you'd be able to do it... Especially considering the profit is, what, 1 billion per spreadsheet you sell? Minus 100m or so per if everyone refers each other.
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Quazal Atreides
Gallente
Prometheus Holdings Inc
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Posted - 2011.05.21 21:52:00 -
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ok from what i can see all data has to be entered manually.
So how do you get he prices, and how do you then change the items does it repopulate the mats it requires?
EG if you chose to make mech parts instead of your example, will it auto repopulate what you need?, or do you need to tell it what mats it needs?
and can it then decide if its cheaper to use p2/p3 if your making p4 and does it then take this into account on the number of factories eventually available?
If you can answer this maybe more hope.. but on your example it is simple multiply d3/d4/d5 x prices on your seperate sheet
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
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Posted - 2011.05.22 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Loraine Gess
You have proved that you can use a calculator. Congratulations, you are now at a 4th grader level.
Would you like to move up to 5th grade by actually proving you can make a spreadsheet by just posting a picture of the full thing?
To be fair...
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.22 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Bruce Leihman on 22/05/2011 01:31:47
ok, lets clear up much confusion.
I have uploaded the full file onto the website. Each sheet is locked, but you will be bale to see how it works.
I have heard feedback in game. Apparently its worth the isk if it links to eve-central.
The file now links all material prices to Eve-Central. You will also have an option for a Jita or Amarr linked file.
Please take a look at the file linked below. If you have any other questions just convo me in game.
http://evepi.webs.com/example.htm
http://evepi.webs.com/
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Charles37
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Posted - 2011.05.22 01:31:00 -
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I'd like to point out that while, yes, you can a good amount of money doing PI, the profits aren't always what you project they will be on paper.
It takes a good bit of time to retool all your existing factories to produce something new, setting up all the routes and schematics, and time isn't free.
Just because a sell order is at a certain price doesn't mean that that product is actually selling in quantities that will make you the profit shown on paper.
Buy orders take time to fill, and people may not sell very much of the product you're trying to buy, which can cause you to miss a window of opportunity.
Remember that you'll probably want to have a freighter for this to haul the volumes of material required.
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.22 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Charles37
I'd like to point out that while, yes, you can a good amount of money doing PI, the profits aren't always what you project they will be on paper.
It takes a good bit of time to retool all your existing factories to produce something new, setting up all the routes and schematics, and time isn't free.
Just because a sell order is at a certain price doesn't mean that that product is actually selling in quantities that will make you the profit shown on paper.
Buy orders take time to fill, and people may not sell very much of the product you're trying to buy, which can cause you to miss a window of opportunity.
Remember that you'll probably want to have a freighter for this to haul the volumes of material required.
Everything Charles says is true. You do have to play the market and make smart buys.
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Master Gotama
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Posted - 2011.05.22 05:42:00 -
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the belongs in the "sell orders" section ---->
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Adrian Idaho
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Posted - 2011.05.22 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Adrian Idaho on 22/05/2011 06:11:25
This is so fail on so many levels...
Bruce, I know you think you've found a gold mine, but you really should test your ideas before you market them.
- Not even one day later, Hermetic Membranes have fallen to 56895, so instead of 59000 ISK per cycle, you'd only make ~13000 ISK (after taxes and export fees, which you also forgot).
- Daily volume in The Forge is highly variable between 1k and ~12k, maybe 5k on average. So how are you planning to sell your 10k Hermetic Membranes per day?
- Okay, let's just assume you'd change your production daily to hunt for the profit maker of the day. Have you ever set up one factory planet with 24 AIFs? Including routing inputs and outputs? Now imagine doing this for 6 planets every day! Not to mention the manual updating of the sales prices. You'll go nuts.
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Nebula Terron
Wolf's in Sheep's Clothing
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:11:00 -
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Your calculations are wrong as you forgot to add import and export cost for your planets.
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fuel2310
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:22:00 -
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i have now tryed it on 2 planet in a wh and it actually makes a pretty ood profit
all in all for 3 days of pi working i made around 60 mill in profit totally
and im just a noob doing pi
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:32:00 -
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In the sticky at the top of the forum is a link to PI Profitability spreadsheets..
This is a FREE spreadsheet (google docs) created by Wyke Mossari. (Thanks again Wyke)
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.22 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: fuel2310
i have now tryed it on 2 planet in a wh and it actually makes a pretty ood profit
all in all for 3 days of pi working i made around 60 mill in profit totally
and im just a noob doing pi
I too can post vaguely related drivel that has no relevance to the thread topic.
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Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
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Posted - 2011.05.22 17:11:00 -
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a billion isk for a crappy pi spreadsheet ?!? give me a break, there's nothing here you can't find for free in the stickies. let me guess, you've gotten tired of waiting on all the billion-isk-for-shuttles market orders you've placed in jita and want to try something new.
nothing to see here, keep on moving...
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Bruce Leihman
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Posted - 2011.05.22 18:06:00 -
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When I read these posts I feel like this game is filled with World of Warcraft 12 year olds.
Its FREE!!!!!!!!!!! go look!
http://evepi.webs.com/
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2011.05.22 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
When I read these posts I feel like this game is filled with World of Warcraft 12 year olds.
Its FREE!!!!!!!!!!! go look!
http://evepi.webs.com/
LOL ... It wasn't free earlier today. Nice try Bubba.
Too bad you couldn't even clean up properly in your attempt to hide your original attempt to sell this...
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I only ask that you DO NOT share it. I will give isk for referral sales!!!
And you left the "Purchase" link on the About page.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.05.22 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
When I read these posts I feel like this game is filled with World of Warcraft 12 year olds.
Its FREE!!!!!!!!!!! go look!
http://evepi.webs.com/
I don't think you're backpedaling hard enough.
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Greg Huff
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Posted - 2011.05.22 18:43:00 -
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After looking at the spreadsheet.... I recommend PI Profitability spreadsheets..
You ignored import/export costs, and your XML data query is.... ummmmm... yeah... let's just say it failed...
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Ding Hardin
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Posted - 2011.05.22 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Loraine Gess
Edited by: Loraine Gess on 21/05/2011 19:33:26
Edited by: Loraine Gess on 21/05/2011 19:30:15
Send an Eve Mail to Bruce Leihman with you e-mail Address and contract Bruce Leihman 1,000,000,000 isk. You will have the file within 1 Day. (See Referral Program)
The 1 Billion Isk price will only be available for the first 100 people. After that the price will be set at 1.5 Billion. So Hurry now.
Shall I also mention the market volatility that makes this worthless? Just because you found a market niche (or probably didn't, this is almost certainly a scam) doesn't mean you can turn 200m a day with factory planets.
Edits go here:
Quote:
Features
What this will allow you to do is buy PI material of a lower grade and manufacture it to a higher grade making you profit!!!
Gasp? A spreadsheet will allow me to do a very basic process of the EVE economy?!
Quote:
On top, it will tell you how many units of the lower grade PI you will need to buy in order to turn them into the profitable high grade PI you wish to make.
Oh **** it can do basic division!
Quote:
With Level 5 Command Center and Consolidation you can have 25 Advanced Industrial centers and one spaceport on 6 planets!!!!!
REALLY? Thanks, you didn't emphasize it enough.
I, too, can color excel boxes and enter numbers. Making a spreadsheet requires actual effort, however.
Not to mention you took about 5 minutes to create this website off a free template.
-1/10 for fail troll.
You only make yourself look like a dumbass when you talk **** you obviously have no clue on what you are saying. Seriously though continue to make yourself look stupid it's amusing to me.
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.23 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ding Hardin
-1/10 for fail troll.
You only make yourself look like a dumbass when you talk **** you obviously have no clue on what you are saying. Seriously though continue to make yourself look stupid it's amusing to me.
Are you talking about his post or yours? Dude was trying to sell a crappy amateur spreadsheet that does less than free ones out there for a ridiculous price with unrealistic claims. Then made it free after getting flamed while trying to make it look like it was always free. He deserved LoraineÆs gentle attentions.
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Ding Hardin
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Posted - 2011.05.23 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hockston Axe
Originally by: Ding Hardin
-1/10 for fail troll.
You only make yourself look like a dumbass when you talk **** you obviously have no clue on what you are saying. Seriously though continue to make yourself look stupid it's amusing to me.
Are you talking about his post or yours? Dude was trying to sell a crappy amateur spreadsheet that does less than free ones out there for a ridiculous price with unrealistic claims. Then made it free after getting flamed while trying to make it look like it was always free. He deserved LoraineÆs gentle attentions.
Cool story bro.
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Neima Fourwinds
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Posted - 2011.05.23 11:34:00 -
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D- for effort
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Teh Scout
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Posted - 2011.05.23 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bruce Leihman
http://evepi.webs.com/
That's some link.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.05.23 16:28:00 -
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OP delivered.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Skippermonkey on 24/05/2011 09:38:09
I have nothing to do with the OP or PI **** for that matter, but boy does Loraine Gess sound butthert over something
anyway...
the more competition the better, makes it all cheap for us that actually fly spaceships
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Lady Go Diveher
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:42:00 -
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The problem with projecting nonsense sales figures like OP was doing, is he is picking a product with VERY LITTLE DEMAND and therefore a very unoptimised market.
You get a great margin, that lasts all of about 12hours. You burn out even Jita's market for the products you're linking in less than a day.
i.e. - OP, you have not even the most basic idea of what you're doing.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.24 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Greg Huff
In the sticky at the top of the forum is a link to PI Profitability spreadsheets..
This is a FREE spreadsheet (google docs) created by Wyke Mossari. (Thanks again Wyke)
PI Production cost spreadsheet
The spreadsheet explained
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Roscada
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Posted - 2011.05.24 18:19:00 -
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