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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.23 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 23/05/2011 22:45:08
Chana Arech> ---sence---lling ba---ew locati---.
Deten Bouras> --------------ified. Enga------------pers.
We think they're trying to say
Chana Arech> presence chilling, bad new locations (not really sure about this one)
Deten Bouras> source unidentified. Engaged the sleepers (or 'Engaging the keepers')
We subsequently spotted their ships on the directional scan and they launched probes before vanishing, never replying to us in local.
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Myxx
Distructive Innovations
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Posted - 2011.05.23 23:40:00 -
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here we go again...
--
 Originally by: CCP Explorer
(and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.24 00:37:00 -
[3]
Requesting timestamps
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2011.05.24 02:48:00 -
[4]
Excellent.
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pshycer
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.24 04:49:00 -
[5]
[20:32:50] Chana Arech > ---sence---lling ba---ew locati---.
[20:33:19] Deten Bouras > --------------ified. Enga------------pers.
there are your timestamps
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.24 09:46:00 -
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Thanks for the timestamps.
Quote:
[20:32:50] Chana Arech > ---sence---lling ba---ew locati---.
[20:33:19] Deten Bouras > --------------ified. Enga------------pers.
The dashes do not really represent missing letters or spaces upon close inspection, they could merely mean a pause or statics between the discernible signals. This is my interpretation:
... [No] Presence... Falling back... New location... (They couldn't find something in one site.)
... Identified. Engage... Sleepers. (Then then moved to another and fought some sleepers.)
So the entire episode could mean one thing: The Amarrian officials are doing c6 sites too for whatever reason.
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Nishachara
Special Operations Corp
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2011.05.24 11:10:00 -
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They are short on cash.. maybe ?
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Deceiver's Voice
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Posted - 2011.05.24 15:00:00 -
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Some possible interpretations of the data:
"ew": Few, New, maybe even (though a stretch) EW as in Electronic Warfare.
"pers": Sleepers, keepers, interlopers
"sense": essence (or Essence), presence
"ified": Identified, classified, verified.
"locati": Locating, location, locations
"enga": engaged, engaging, engage
As you can see, there are multiple interpretations of the data, some making more sense in context than others.
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2011.05.24 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata
... [No] Presence... Falling back... New location... (They couldn't find something in one site.)
... Identified. Engage... Sleepers. (Then then moved to another and fought some sleepers.)
So the entire episode could mean one thing: The Amarrian officials are doing c6 sites too for whatever reason.
The Amarrian officials in question have formidable employment histories, and should know better than to broadcast their presence in local without cause.
That said, "falling back new location" is an excellent stab.
Rather than "no," a more active theme might be:
"[Hostile] presence falling back new location."
"Hostiles identified. Engaged with Sleepers."
"They're in the walls. Game over, dude. Game over."
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.24 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gosakumori Noh
Originally by: Calathea Sata
... [No] Presence... Falling back... New location... (They couldn't find something in one site.)
... Identified. Engage... Sleepers. (Then then moved to another and fought some sleepers.)
So the entire episode could mean one thing: The Amarrian officials are doing c6 sites too for whatever reason.
The Amarrian officials in question have formidable employment histories, and should know better than to broadcast their presence in local without cause.
That said, "falling back new location" is an excellent stab.
Rather than "no," a more active theme might be:
"[Hostile] presence falling back new location."
"Hostiles identified. Engaged with Sleepers."
"They're in the walls. Game over, dude. Game over."
That sounds like a pretty good interpretation. I'm a little miffed that they refused to communicate in us with local, it was like a massive RP-tease.
*puts cryptic messages in local*
*vanishes*
ISD, did you assume the role of a successful troll?
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2011.05.24 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
That sounds like a pretty good interpretation. I'm a little miffed that they refused to communicate in us with local, it was like a massive RP-tease.
True that. It does seem *some* acknowledgement of the fact you made an effort to engage them would have been warranted.
Was there anything to identify what kind of ships they were in? Warships vs. exploration vessels would be another clue.
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Deceiver's Voice
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Posted - 2011.05.24 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
ISD, did you assume the role of a successful troll?
The only problem here is that it's not ISD doing this. ISD are volunteers, and they haven't done live events since AURORA was shut down. It's actual Developers doing the events now.
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.24 21:56:00 -
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Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 24/05/2011 21:56:02
Originally by: Gosakumori Noh
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
That sounds like a pretty good interpretation. I'm a little miffed that they refused to communicate in us with local, it was like a massive RP-tease.
True that. It does seem *some* acknowledgement of the fact you made an effort to engage them would have been warranted.
Was there anything to identify what kind of ships they were in? Warships vs. exploration vessels would be another clue.
We saw one of them in a Pilgrim, and they left probes at various points in the system.
Here's a Link to a screenshot
Originally by: Deceiver's Voice
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
ISD, did you assume the role of a successful troll?
The only problem here is that it's not ISD doing this. ISD are volunteers, and they haven't done live events since AURORA was shut down. It's actual Developers doing the events now.
Did not know that AURORA was shot down.. that must have been a while ago.
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2011.05.24 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
We saw one of them in a Pilgrim, and they left probes at various points in the system.
Nice. It's cool they're taking an "appropriate" approach to scouting the systems. Perhaps you will happen upon a Class 7 entry point. Good luck with that!
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Cave Lord
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Posted - 2011.05.25 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Cave Lord on 25/05/2011 00:46:33
Who uses purple text? I thought it was the bug-hunters, which doesn't make sense in this. Do the CCP event coordinators also use purple text?
Also, did anyone scan those probes down to see what was there?
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.25 01:14:00 -
[16]
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 25/05/2011 01:14:09
Originally by: Cave Lord
Edited by: Cave Lord on 25/05/2011 00:46:33
Who uses purple text? I thought it was the bug-hunters, which doesn't make sense in this. Do the CCP event coordinators also use purple text?
Also, did anyone scan those probes down to see what was there?
You can't scan down probes even though it says 'drones and probes' under that signature class. Otherwise deep space probes would be the ultimate early warning tool.
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Cave Lord
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Posted - 2011.05.25 02:48:00 -
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Bummer. I was hoping we could (I had never actually tried).
Have you guys noticed anything particular about this system that doesn't fit the norm? I'm particularly interested in this RP event.
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.25 03:07:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Cave Lord
Bummer. I was hoping we could (I had never actually tried).
Have you guys noticed anything particular about this system that doesn't fit the norm? I'm particularly interested in this RP event.
Its our home system, which is well known by most C5/C6 residents. Aside from the strong presence we maintain there at all times, no, not really, just a typical C6 magnetar.
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Talinthi
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.25 03:25:00 -
[19]
Edited by: Talinthi on 25/05/2011 03:27:15
Originally by: Gosakumori Noh
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
That sounds like a pretty good interpretation. I'm a little miffed that they refused to communicate in us with local, it was like a massive RP-tease.
True that. It does seem *some* acknowledgement of the fact you made an effort to engage them would have been warranted.
Was there anything to identify what kind of ships they were in? Warships vs. exploration vessels would be another clue.
They were both flying pilgrims and were both decloaked at one point. Can't remember what the ships were actually called but they ended in 1 and 2.
As for the probes they were found at the 0 warp-ins at planets 1-7 or well at least most of them were(total of 10 on scan) maybe ccp was trying to probe as per a few years ago??
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2011.05.25 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Talinthi
They were both flying pilgrims and were both decloaked at one point. Can't remember what the ships were actually called but they ended in 1 and 2.
In two pilgrims, the correct response to a "hostile presence" in a C6 wormhole probably is to find a new location...
You would have picked up wreckage in your scans if they had been destroyed. So... short of just leaving probes for the hell of it, choices seem to be that they:
got completely vaporized;
bugged out quickly; or,
were removed by "other means."
As the "most simple" explanation, I'd pick "bugged out" (been there, done that). It's entirely possible Imperial agents would consider your force "hostile" too (which could explain the non-responsiveness), so once they knew the gig was up, getting out would be reasonable.
The corporate description for MIO is:
"The Amarr authorities have vast experience in molding their citizens as they want. The Ministry of Internal Order is responsible for hunting down disgruntled elements in the society and eradicating them. Since first contact the Ministry of Internal Order is also responsible for monitoring the activities of foreigners within the Amarr border, especially Minmatar terrorist cells."
That charter does not cover exploring Sleeper sites, so this seems closest to "hunting down disgruntled elements (no longer) in the society and eradicating them." Is there reason to believe "disgruntled elements" are using wormholes?
There was a news report about a dictator resurfacing recently and disappearing, though as I recall, he seemed like a bigger deal to the Minmatar themselves.
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Kate Bodh
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Posted - 2011.05.25 05:54:00 -
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Huh?
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JunoTan
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.25 17:37:00 -
[22]
Edited by: JunoTan on 25/05/2011 17:48:34
Another contact has been unfruitfull,
Altrough we have gotten new clue's (thanks to ccres for finding it local)
[16:40:02] Chana Arech > ---ted----lling bac----.
Once again Chana Arech was in a pilgrim,
10-15 minutes later Chana Arech was spotted at a pos in our system (were we also had the first contact)
Once again in a pilgrim.
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Nishachara
Special Operations Corp
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2011.05.25 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: JunoTan
[16:40:02] Chana Arech > ---ted----lling bac----.
"Spotted falling back" ?
Maybe the Dev-s are spying on you...
under the guise of Rp characters ?
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Shani Zera
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2011.05.25 22:25:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Gosakumori Noh
The Amarrian officials in question have formidable employment histories, and should know better than to broadcast their presence in local without cause.
When you put this together with the fact they didn't reply over local comms, it's pretty clear what's happening on the meta-level.
Think about it. If they were acting like proper scouts, they would be so much harder to notice and distinguish from other players. It might take us months to notice and ID the pilots as Amarr Navy.
Maybe that's how things even started: with Amarr Navy doing their job right, but of course, nobody noticed them as you'd expect, and so on the meta-level CCP had to be a bit more overt and put some purple text in local to properly kick start things.
The lack of replies from the AN suggests this too. They're not out there to chat, but said "something" in local. It all points to CCP on the meta level wanting to be discovered without making the Amarr Navy appear completely hopeless at covert operations.
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Gosakumori Noh
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Posted - 2011.05.25 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shani Zera
Maybe that's how things even started: with Amarr Navy doing their job right, but of course, nobody noticed them as you'd expect, and so on the meta-level CCP had to be a bit more overt and put some purple text in local to properly kick start things.
There's validity to all that. It could also be like "The Fugitive," where Our Hero intentionally messes with clues he wants the detective to pick up.
A couple of pilgrims are unlikely to take C6 spawns. But they are not interested in anything as mundane as "loot," and so drawing the attention of a nearby capsuleer corporation would be one way of getting rid of troublesome Sleeper units.
The second interaction is compatible with this. A force recon ship that hasn't wandered into a swarming gate camp is unlikely to become visible near a POS unless it "wants" to be seen.
One strategy consistent with MIO's charter would go: "convince corporation to blow up Sleeper installation so we can sift through debris when everyone is gone looking for evidence of Wanted Terrorist."
Amarr wouldn't send its own combat fleet, because that would be detected by capsuleers, resulting in "complications" that could otherwise be avoided. Perhaps blowing everything in sight up might trigger some additional interaction - though I suppose blowing everything in sight up has been on the menu for Quite Some Time.
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Dilaro thagriin
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Posted - 2011.05.27 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nishachara
Originally by: JunoTan
[16:40:02] Chana Arech > ---ted----lling bac----.
"Spotted falling back" ?
either that or [mission] aborted, falling back [to rally point]
just my 2 pence :P
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Myxx
Distructive Innovations
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Posted - 2011.05.27 21:42:00 -
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Todays dust514 quote:
http://www.dust514.com/
"I KEEP TELLING THEM I SAW AN ENTIRE BLOODY GOLDEN FLEET HEADING FOR THAT WORMHOLE, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN!"
-Jeronus Vie, Capsuleer
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.27 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx
Todays dust514 quote:
http://www.dust514.com/
"I KEEP TELLING THEM I SAW AN ENTIRE BLOODY GOLDEN FLEET HEADING FOR THAT WORMHOLE, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN!"
-Jeronus Vie, Capsuleer
CCP saying something? The timing... is amazing, I must admit.
It is too good a timing to be a coincidence.
/turns on website monitoring
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2011.05.28 03:19:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Myxx
Todays dust514 quote:
http://www.dust514.com/
"I KEEP TELLING THEM I SAW AN ENTIRE BLOODY GOLDEN FLEET HEADING FOR THAT WORMHOLE, BUT NOBODY WANTS TO LISTEN!"
-Jeronus Vie, Capsuleer
CCP saying something? The timing... is amazing, I must admit.
That like sounds fun to me, if its aimed at us.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.05.29 01:14:00 -
[30]
per http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1261656&page=25#731
Quote:
Strange Energy Readings (class 6)
"The radiation levels of this site are high but within tolerable limits. Wavelength readouts suggest a large cache of a powerful isotope was once housed here, but no solid traces remain. The level of radiant antimatter can only be explained by an immense--and recent--matter displacement. By the way, incoming hostiles.
(emphasis mine)
Maybe coming back for more fuel for the superweapon?
Random thought, but what if Jamyl Sarum is one of the sleepers?
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Arvash
Minmatar
Disciples of Tezcatlipoca
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Posted - 2011.05.29 02:33:00 -
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Cheney- Not sure about Sleeper, but I am pretty firmly convinced that she and Kuvakei are the first run of true capsule-era infomorphs, the Broker is obviously an older one, and I'd put odds on Maleatu Shakor.
All sudden disappearances with mysterious, inexplicably impressive triumphant returns.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.05.30 05:43:00 -
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Today's Dust quote:
Quote:
"I don't know what they found on the other side, but apparently it was valuable. And they didn't bring it back in a freighter convoy. They brought it back in a handbag."
Garsk Agalder
Perhaps related to the recent Amarrian visit to w-space? Dust deals with foot soldiers, but what foot-soldier related object would be concievably transported in a freighter? And what else would the "other side" be? Considering these factors, and in light of the events in this thread, and the Dust quote from Thursday:
Quote:
"I keep telling them! I saw an entire bloody golden fleet heading for that wormhole, but no one wants to listen."
Jeronus Vie, Capsuleer
I believe this is about the latest Amarrian activities. And if they did just pull out a single, small object from w-space, I'm more inclined to think that my earlier supposition of Jamyl being a sleeper is correct. How else would her fleet know what to find, and where it is? Anything that can fit in a handbag is clearly a special object of the like we haven't seen in game.
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Ellis Croix
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Posted - 2011.05.30 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney
I believe this is about the latest Amarrian activities. And if they did just pull out a single, small object from w-space, I'm more inclined to think that my earlier supposition of Jamyl being a sleeper is correct. How else would her fleet know what to find, and where it is? Anything that can fit in a handbag is clearly a special object of the like we haven't seen in game.
The Empyrean Age, page 451.
Hint: 3.4-3.5 Terran Artifacts
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.05.30 06:53:00 -
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You definitely aren't my professor, and I doubt you are a CCP employee, so is there a reason you are assigning homework and speaking giving hints rather than criticism and making discussion?
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Ellis Croix
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Posted - 2011.05.30 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor Cheney
You definitely aren't my professor, and I doubt you are a CCP employee, so is there a reason you are assigning homework and speaking giving hints rather than criticism and making discussion?
Yes; Sarum may or may not be a Sleeper, but that's not the biggest revelation.
I'll assume you don't have The Empyrean Age, so I'll paint the picture for you. One of the characters is near what he believes to be a Terran station. Shortly after this revelation, he hears Jamyl Sarum's voice in his head.
In the second to last chapter of the book, Jamyl says something rather interesting; that this same individual put a voice (what she calls a "demon") in her head. Throughout the book, Jamyl also leads people to Terran technology (by using very cryptic references).
The Sleeper site known as "The Mirror" makes reference to Terran Artifacts.
For the purpose of being in W-space, I'd think this would be the most logical reason for the Amarr going there. Either the MIO sending the operatives there to collect data, or an expedition sanctioned by the Empress herself.
Now, if someone put something in Jamyl's head, how big would it have to be? Or rather, how small would it have to be? Smaller than a human head, and definitely small enough to fit in a handbag. That is of course wild speculation, but it's not completely out of the realm of probable explanations.
Think about the quote; "they didn't bring it back in a freighter convoy". Why would you send a "fleet" to bring back something small, especially if you aren't using a fleet to return it? You wouldn't. You'd send something that can move easily, undetected (for the most part) and able to get in and out with as little fuss as possible. I'm not discounting the possibility that a fleet was used at some point, but there is no suggestion that there is a direct link between the two quotes. Given recent events there is a strong possibility, and I don't rule it out, but the quotes in and of themselves could very well be related to two different events.
However, if you're going into Sleeper space, what are you going to be looking for? Capsuleers would be looking for Sleeper drones and Sleeper/Talocan sites. It's a wonderful assumption; but what if the Sleepers and Talocan were looking for something as well? Why would the Sleepers have a database (or archive) with Terran Artifacts listed in it? The answer is there, or at least a part of the answer; either their technology is based on those artifacts, they were developing new technology based on those artifacts (and in possession of said artifacts), or they were searching for those artifacts.
Regardless, it's a reason for the Amarrians (and the Empress herself in particular) to have a vested interest in wormholes even if you ignore the evidence in The Empyrean Age.
I would also like to express my apologies; I wasn't trying to talk down to you, just trying to have a bit of fun. 
P.S.: One aspect of the Mirror sites that I always found intriguing?
1.0-5.1 Microvirtual Transmission Sensor The Sleepers were masters of virtual reality. Using VR tech, you would not have to be present at a site if you were using VR to to have a telepresence.
The Sleepers wouldn't have to be where their Drones were, as infomorphs or physical beings. All they would need is an efficient way of transferring the visual data between the drones and the users. For instance, via fluid routers (for instantaneous communication across vast distances).
Long story short, the Sleepers are far more fascinating than most people give them credit for, and without trying to shoehorn Jamyl into being one of "them".  The Terran angle gives me a big enough headache. 
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.05.30 11:06:00 -
[36]
Thanks for the insight, and apologies for my earlier snappiness. I get unduly frustrated by cryptic answers, far more than I should.
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.05.30 11:17:00 -
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Quote:
ôI donÆt know what they found on the other side, but apparently it was valuable. And they didnÆt bring it back in a freighter convoy. They brought it back in a handbag.ö
- Garsk Agalder
The newest quote from DUST website.
I think it is a hint to what the Amarrians are doing and what they might be bringing back.
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Myxx
Distructive Innovations
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Posted - 2011.05.30 12:56:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Myxx on 30/05/2011 13:06:32
I wonder if this is the golden fleet that was mentioned?
its all tying back to Apocrypha, which I had thought about when I saw the image they had up for Dust514 on their own main webpage. Notice the Amarrian hangar.
Also, yesterday's quote was interesting:
Quote:
What do you people know of Sacrifice? Of loss and suffering? One day someone will show you what it is you've done.
-Entris Alekran, Seyllin Survivor
You people? Blood Raider reference, SOCT reference? One of the two... or maybe both?
It really is starting to look a lot like a certain myth.
SOCT, accidentally the whole universe? If its true, that would explain why they want to die.
CCP, you sadists, you wonderful sadists.
--
Originally by: CCP Explorer
(and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Originally by: Tom Gerard
Then again... I am a moron.
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Arvash
Minmatar
Disciples of Tezcatlipoca
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Posted - 2011.05.30 14:20:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Ellis Croix
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
I believe this is about the latest Amarrian activities. And if they did just pull out a single, small object from w-space, I'm more inclined to think that my earlier supposition of Jamyl being a sleeper is correct. How else would her fleet know what to find, and where it is? Anything that can fit in a handbag is clearly a special object of the like we haven't seen in game.
The Empyrean Age, page 451.
Hint: 3.4-3.5 Terran Artifacts
I agree with Ellis' analysis- not sure about the Terran specific but the context sounds right on, as does putting the onus on Sarum.
As far as Jamyl being a physical Sleeper, I'm inclined to disagree ... or at least say" not entirely". I think that the second voice in her head is Enheduanni. Conceivably, they and the sleepers could be one and the same.
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Gosakumori Noh
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
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Posted - 2011.06.26 04:39:00 -
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So... bumping this. Anything else happen?
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Otocinclus
Minmatar
Project Nemesis
WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.27 22:30:00 -
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The first one seems pretty straightforward. They're obviously scouts for the rest of their fleet, but it also seems like they're looking for something. It definitely seems like he was spooked by a presence of some kind, likely sleepers. The most likely conclusion for the rest is that he is falling back and proceeding to a site he just scanned down.
The second one seems to be missing a lot more information. The first part shows that something he found was verified as their target, whether it be a structure, wormhole, etc. I seriously doubt that he proceeded to engage a module or function of his ship, perhaps scanning for the presence of sleepers (engaging cloak, scans reveal incoming sleepers). A lone pilgrim obviously isn't taking on a C6 site.
The third one seems to be the Pilgrim noticing your alliance, (capsuleer presence detected, falling back). There's clearly some more missing after that bit, please keep us posted on any further developments.
CCP clearly has an intent for your wormhole, I have no doubt you guys will find something awesome.
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Otocinclus
Minmatar
Project Nemesis
WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2011.06.27 22:47:00 -
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Looks like I posted a little late :( I'm glad ccp is finally restarting the wormhole storyline, hopefully it keeps moving as fast as it is, possibly even bringing back live events.
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Gosakumori Noh
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 01:56:00 -
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What do you mean "too late?" Is there a new storyline post?
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2011.06.30 20:09:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 30/06/2011 20:08:40
CCP, I am disappointed. You come into our system, post some cryptic, garbled messages, then leave and never show up again. Don't bother doing things like this if you aren't going to deliver with actual content, RP or otherwise, because its just a waste of our time and your time.
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Alessandra Karris
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Posted - 2011.06.30 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
CCP, I am disappointed. You come into our system, post some cryptic, garbled messages, then leave and never show up again. Don't bother doing things like this if you aren't going to deliver with actual content, RP or otherwise, because its just a waste of our time and your time.
I think this was all part of the lead up to the DUST 514 announcement at E3. Viral marketing at it's finest... 
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:22:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Alessandra Karris
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
CCP, I am disappointed. You come into our system, post some cryptic, garbled messages, then leave and never show up again. Don't bother doing things like this if you aren't going to deliver with actual content, RP or otherwise, because its just a waste of our time and your time.
I think this was all part of the lead up to the DUST 514 announcement at E3. Viral marketing at it's finest...
So you think the tweet about the 'golden fleet' (Amarr navy) was directly related to this? Its possible I suppose, but still very, very annoying that they've never come back to play with us after being all cryptic and mysterious.
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Renee Khalida
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Posted - 2011.07.01 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
So you think the tweet about the 'golden fleet' (Amarr navy) was directly related to this? Its possible I suppose...
You doubt that?
One of the tweets listed earlier in this thread is a quote from a Dominations member. He was sighted in Amarr space around the same as the Amarrians got "lost" in your wormhole, and the same time as mention of the golden fleet. It all fits together too neatly to be coincidental.
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Valerie Valate
Amarr
Church of The Crimson Saviour
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Posted - 2011.07.02 09:53:00 -
[48]
some of these event actor character names, e.g. the angel cartel ones, also appeared in the quotes thing on the DUST website page.
So, this whole thing, is publicity for DUST and the upcoming DUST-related novel by Tony Gonzales, "Templar One".
given publishing lead times, I suspect it was all written beforehand, so little or no reason to interact with it at all.
Which is less than inspiring.
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Gosakumori Noh
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.03 03:31:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Valerie Valate
So, this whole thing, is publicity for DUST and the upcoming DUST-related novel by Tony Gonzales, "Templar One". Given publishing lead times, I suspect it was all written beforehand, so little or no reason to interact with it at all.
That does seem to be what was going on, though the rationale strikes me as half-baked.
The promotion implied DUST is "just" a continuation of EVE and Incarna. Given what the console FPS crowd thinks of MMOs, that's a risky connection to be drawing attention to right off the bat.
Meanwhile back in EVE, it's more than a bit irritating.
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.07.14 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 14/07/2011 22:41:01
Well apparently we dropped the ball, we were away bashing some corps face in and this gets killed in our system while our attention is elsewhere.
Mysterious Covops
Notice what it had in the cargo? Specifically, what didn't drop and got destroyed?
Trinary Data. LOL STORY/PLOT ITEM DESTROYED.
/facepalm
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Gosakumori Noh
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.15 03:48:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Notice what it had in the cargo? Specifically, what didn't drop and got destroyed?
Trinary Data. LOL STORY/PLOT ITEM DESTROYED.
Ooooooh.... Dude.
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Grideris
Gallente
Fleet Coordination Command
Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2011.07.15 04:04:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Grideris on 15/07/2011 04:03:56
Some other food for thought. The pilot listed on the killmail isn't the actual pilot. The real pilot of that Helios?
Lianda Burreau. I mean, she's only been missing for what, two years now?
Not to mention that there were 6 Helioses. 6. How the the hell did you miss 6 of them? 
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.07.15 04:33:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 15/07/2011 04:37:04
Well we were in the middle of sieging another system (that represents over a week of preparation), everyone's mains were out and no one was paying attention to what was going on back home, we were having fleet fights and such. I DID say we dropped the ball on this, lol.
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CCP Dropbear
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Posted - 2011.07.15 06:14:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Trinary Data. LOL STORY/PLOT ITEM DESTROYED.
:picardfacepalm:
If anyone at CCP is reading this I promise we'll make sure it gets recovered if you spawn it in our system again! We were all away from home, leave a message! Honest! 
But...it's such an awesome twist!
Seriously, we could have spent weeks planning something like this and we still wouldn't have come close to the real thing, in all its unpredictable awesomeness. 
Quote:
Dr. Tukoss,
First, let me say it is an honor to be contacted by such a preeminent member of New Eden's scientific community. I only wish I had better news for you.
I can confirm the engagement at 113.07.08 11.39.00. We had briefly engaged members of Aperture Harmonics after their home system spawned near ours. I became trapped in their system after they closed my wormhole home, but as I was cloaked and nullified, I was not overly worried. Deciding to explore a bit before making my way back to empire, I noticed helios covert ops ships on scan. While AHARM combed their system vainly for me, I scanned down the ships and warped into visual range. Imagine my surprise upon seeing 6 unpiloted Helioses sitting in space.
Assuming they belonged to AHARM, I proceeded to lock up and destroy them one by one, before sneaking through AHARMS camp and scanning my way back to kspace. My combat records however showed only 1 killmail. The single registered ship belonged to one Lianda Burreau.
I regret to inform you that CONCORD records indicate Trinary Data was lost in the explosion. No other cargo was recovered.
May I ask what this database held? Why were these ships flaoting, unamanned, in AHARM's home system? What is going on here, Doctor?
I have lived in deep wormhole space for over a year, and have seen many amazing things, but this is truly one of the more mysterious. If there is anything I should look out for in my travels, please let me know. I would like to do what I can to help your project.
-Corialis Wyr
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Corialis Lor
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Posted - 2011.07.15 06:51:00 -
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Here is Dr. Tukoss' original communication:
The CreoDron vessel you destroyed
From: Hilen Tukoss
Sent: 2011.07.14 01:03
To: Corialis Wyr,
Before you do anything else, look at my employment history.
Or better, read the news.
Assuming, now, that you know who you are speaking with, perhaps you could help me understand the events that I believe you are involved in, starting with identifying the pilot whose ship you destroyed.
Rikaato,
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Corialis Wyr
Minmatar
Sand Castle
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.07.15 06:54:00 -
[56]
Whoops, logged in as wrong char.
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.07.15 10:04:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Wen Jaibao on 15/07/2011 10:04:50
So the vessels were the derelicts of Lianda Burreau's expedition. But where are the pilots? *ponders* Oh and thanks for posting the mail Corialis 
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
But...it's such an awesome twist!
Seriously, we could have spent weeks planning something like this and we still wouldn't have come close to the real thing, in all its unpredictable awesomeness.
I can only imagine the look on your face when you realized what had happened.
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Hayaishi
Gallente
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.07.15 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Hayaishi on 15/07/2011 11:13:21
Now to find the corpses, or any other ships.
I recall reading up about the Creodron expedition somewhere. Let me find it.
Right here :) That is, if no one had already got it.
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
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Posted - 2011.07.15 11:28:00 -
[59]
Quote:
Different in the way sunrise and sunset are, she thought. Six more Helioses decloaked as they dropped out of warp, falling into the same cautious long-range orbit as she had. "Whenever you're ready."
Six more. He found six in total. So that means there is still one more left, or destroyed.
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Corialis Wyr
Minmatar
Sand Castle
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.07.15 11:39:00 -
[60]
There could have been 7, now that it comes up, I believe it was. Honestly, I assumed it had to be some kind of trap, and I have to admit my heart was pounding and I might have missed some details in my haste to blow them up and get out alive. The ships were definately named CD-70, CD-73, etc., and I think one of them was CD-Vitrauze.
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Wen Jaibao
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2011.07.15 12:22:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Corialis Wyr
There could have been 7, now that it comes up, I believe it was. Honestly, I assumed it had to be some kind of trap, and I have to admit my heart was pounding and I might have missed some details in my haste to blow them up and get out alive. The ships were definately named CD-70, CD-73, etc., and I think one of them was CD-Vitrauze.
I think you killed a story character
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Corialis Wyr
Minmatar
Sand Castle
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.07.15 12:51:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
I think you killed a story character
Well, I heard he was wearing a monocle.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.15 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Wyke Mossari on 15/07/2011 13:24:12
You seem to be indicating the ships were inactive and I therefore presume no pods were released when they were destroyed.
Can you confirm that no fitting or modules were dropped when destroyed.
This would seem to indicate that these derelicts had been previously stripped by ... whom?
Scavengers would likely have removed the entire ship, it seems more likely to me that some unknown party may have stripped the hulls of it's entire equipment for investigative purposes.
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Corialis Wyr
Minmatar
Sand Castle
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.07.15 13:37:00 -
[64]
Confirming that all craft were empty, and left nothing but empty wrecks.
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forum r trolls
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Posted - 2011.07.16 19:52:00 -
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i think the fact that CCP is spawning story line crap in your system only attests to CCP's favoritism of hacks and exploiters. just look at CCP's history, from spawning T2 bpo's to not disbanding you ******s after exploiting magnetars and everything in between. this even goes for the CSM being made up of nullsec reps that could care less how everyone else plays the game as long as they get what they want for nullsec
and yes im posting on an alt, why the hell should i put our corp on your radar (as tiny as we may be we dont need the attention)
as for CCP and their idea of a good time? try listening to, and including your player base that plays your game to letter of the eula and quit givin cheats and hax all the fun
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forum r trolls
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Posted - 2011.07.16 20:31:00 -
[66]
Edited by: forum r trolls on 16/07/2011 20:32:11
go go ccp censorship!
way to delete my post ccp thanks for proving my point
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:02:00 -
[67]
Originally by: forum r trolls
Edited by: forum r trolls on 16/07/2011 20:32:11
go go ccp censorship!
way to delete my post ccp thanks for proving my point
And I'm sure it was a trenchant and informative post indeed, Mr forum r trolls.
Go away.
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forum r trolls
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:08:00 -
[68]
lol cause everything CCP does is ethical... including (but not limited to) spawning storyline crap for exploiters like AHARM
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Darko Decay
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Posted - 2011.07.18 08:27:00 -
[69]
of course in eve this important story element is destroyed 
Well played
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.18 09:08:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Wyke Mossari
Scavengers would likely have removed the entire ship, it seems more likely to me that some unknown party may have stripped the hulls of it's entire equipment for investigative purposes.
Doh. On second thoughts, investigators would most likely have removed the Trinary Data as well.
This leaves scavengers whom 1) lacked the capability to remove the entire hull 2) failed to recognise the potential value of the Trinary Data.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.18 10:30:00 -
[71]
Originally by: "Wyke Mossari to Arek'Jaalan"
An example of Trinary Data was reported destroyed along with Lianda's Helios Hull. I have spent some time contemplating this because it raises many questions for me. Where and how did she obtain this item? I am unaware of any reports of Capsuleers recovering similar items within Anoikis or any evidence that she obtained this items after she entered wormhole space. The only reports I've been able to recover concerning this item are from public neo-com archives in regard to the Jovian Veniel. Those records paint a confused picture, it seems that Veniel may have gifted examples to Capsuleers that aided him and others were recovered from the wreckage of his ship. Some reports indicate that some (perhaps 5) of these examples may have been destined for major powers of new Eden. My initial investigate suggest that five examples were destined for various Major Powers, the first 4 seem obvious, but who would be the fifth? I speculate this may have been the Sisters of Eve. Was it this distribution that made him an outlaw with the Jove? Was it the distribution of these items to the Major powers or perhaps to Capsuleers. Some Capsuleers consider there to be a political or philosophical schism within the Jove, this might be considered evidence in support of this conjecture. This may be at the heart of this matter, but raises a very large question, why would this be such a contentious issue? Why was Veniel distributing this item? Some theorists claim leaked intelligence ((Anoikis Chronicle)) suggest that Lianda was successful in her attempts to interact with Sleeper structures. I therefore consider it a very strong possibility that Lianda was in possession of this item before she entered the wormhole with this item. Which raises the question why ? Capsuleers report numerous attempt to interact with these structures in a positive way have been singularly unsuccessful. I humbly suggest that the Trinary Data may quite literally be the key to success in this endeavour.
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Chitsa Jason
Caldari
Bite me inc.
Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.07.19 00:18:00 -
[72]
Narwhals Ate My Duck alliance is scanning local every 5 minutes for signs life now!
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Gosakumori Noh
Amarr
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.19 00:35:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Wyke Mossari
I humbly suggest that the Trinary Data may quite literally be the key to success in this endeavour.
If a receiver for the "trinary data" were identified, it would be possible to reverse engineer a signal that at least got a response - if not a particularly detailed one. Relevant skills would probably be reverse engineering, hacking, and Sleeper/Talocan technology (although the "trinary data" itself is identified as likely of Jovian origin, it was found in a Sleeper-dominant pocket). Relevant items may be those RAM things and reverse engineering products.
Sleeper "robust arcs" emit a "strange electronic interference, pulsing randomly every few seconds." There does not appear to be any actual game mechanism to respond to these pulses, but projecting a "trinary" carrier wave into these arcs might conceivably be worth an emote or two.
Given that the story object was found in a particular system, trying such a thing in that system seems logical. Food for thought of the controlling alliance.
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Zane Ziebold
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Posted - 2011.07.19 02:21:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Zane Ziebold on 19/07/2011 02:22:42
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
Originally by: Wen Jaibao
Trinary Data. LOL STORY/PLOT ITEM DESTROYED.
:picardfacepalm:
If anyone at CCP is reading this I promise we'll make sure it gets recovered if you spawn it in our system again! We were all away from home, leave a message! Honest!
But...it's such an awesome twist!
Seriously, we could have spent weeks planning something like this and we still wouldn't have come close to the real thing, in all its unpredictable awesomeness.
Quote:
Dr. Tukoss,
First, let me say it is an honor to be contacted by such a preeminent member of New Eden's scientific community. I only wish I had better news for you.
I can confirm the engagement at 113.07.08 11.39.00. We had briefly engaged members of Aperture Harmonics after their home system spawned near ours. I became trapped in their system after they closed my wormhole home, but as I was cloaked and nullified, I was not overly worried. Deciding to explore a bit before making my way back to empire, I noticed helios covert ops ships on scan. While AHARM combed their system vainly for me, I scanned down the ships and warped into visual range. Imagine my surprise upon seeing 6 unpiloted Helioses sitting in space.
Assuming they belonged to AHARM, I proceeded to lock up and destroy them one by one, before sneaking through AHARMS camp and scanning my way back to kspace. My combat records however showed only 1 killmail. The single registered ship belonged to one Lianda Burreau.
I regret to inform you that CONCORD records indicate Trinary Data was lost in the explosion. No other cargo was recovered.
May I ask what this database held? Why were these ships flaoting, unamanned, in AHARM's home system? What is going on here, Doctor?
I have lived in deep wormhole space for over a year, and have seen many amazing things, but this is truly one of the more mysterious. If there is anything I should look out for in my travels, please let me know. I would like to do what I can to help your project.
-Corialis Wyr
Fail, So your lazy? So from what i get is that you give very cryptic messages to pvpers and now you don't need to anything for that plot. So you spent time making IC ways to expand the story of even and now you don't have to do anything.
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