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Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Miilla on 26/05/2011 14:39:23 I have reported with full days of logs showing clearly macro exploiters They sit from 1300 eve time to 2000 eve time and spam every 4 minutes on the dot. Full days log of it! And GM's do NOTHING. I don't get it, they published rules stating Macro punishments and ban times. Yet their actions say macroing is allowed. Which is it? Macros are against the rules and get banned or are they not? I also had to Escelate the petitions to report the fail GM under Games Masters and ISD.
Hot Sleazy Wench	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:40:00 - [2] Cool another Macro post. What is that 10,000 now?
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:41:00 - [3] Edited by: Miilla on 26/05/2011 14:42:02 Originally by: Hot Sleazy Wench Cool another Macro post. What is that 10,000 now? Well CCP just posted this *http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509907* to state the rules clearly and in front of us. Yet what do they want us to do? So far, that rule mean nothing, so why bother posting that rule sticky?
GIGAR Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:42:00 - [4] First off: They recently banned 3000 (? exact number, whatever) bots. Secondly: Considering that there's currently declared war on bots, CCP must be getting considerable amount of bot reports. All of these have to be looked at. I don't work at CCP, but I don't believe they just hit the "BAN!!!!11!!1!!" button as soon as they get a macro report. Thirdly: Incarna is just around the corner. A lot of resources is going into getting it done properly. (that doesn't mean fighting bots isn't important, though) ------------ "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." - Heavy Weapons Guy
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:43:00 - [5] Originally by: GIGAR First off: They recently banned 3000 (? exact number, whatever) bots. Secondly: Considering that there's currently declared war on bots, CCP must be getting considerable amount of bot reports. All of these have to be looked at. I don't work at CCP, but I don't believe they just hit the "BAN!!!!11!!1!!" button as soon as they get a macro report. Thirdly: Incarna is just around the corner. A lot of resources is going into getting it done properly. (that doesn't mean fighting bots isn't important, though) This has been going on for Weeks. The toon is Jesus Christmas Declaring war on bots? So far, they arn't doing anything at all, the macro is still working in Rens local spamming EVERY 4 minutes. The logs are clear. GM's arnt working on Incaran, they are CUSTOMER SUPPORT for the live TQ server.
Mister Rocknrolla	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:47:00 - [6] Does the "block" option not work in local?
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:48:00 - [7] Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Does the "block" option not work in local? There is a finite limit on the number you can block.
Lidia Prince Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:48:00 - [8] OP has no idea how GMing stuff works, especially if "stuff" - one huge-ass server with thousands of players. /thread
salty Milk	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:49:00 - [9] follow the money and find the answers
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.26 14:50:00 - [10] The irony of you of all people whining about people spamming rubbish is so funny it actually hurts, especially considering the way you spam the Rens local channel with your pointless drivel. Were the rules to be followed to the letter, with immediate effect, you would also doubtless find yourself perma-banned from these forums Miilla. Take a chill pill, calm down and let CCP get on with the job of banning the important bots first, like the ones involved in RMT. In the meantime, the block button is your friend.
Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Aeronwen Carys The irony of you of all people whining about people spamming rubbish is so funny it actually hurts, especially considering the way you spam the Rens local channel with your pointless drivel. Were the rules to be followed to the letter, with immediate effect, you would also doubtless find yourself perma-banned from these forums Miilla. This. Oh, the irony. .
Henry Haphorn Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:10:00 - [12] If you are that concerned about bots, then come join us in our war against bots. Do more than just petition them. Help us scout for mining/mission bots and track their progress over the weeks for us to get an understanding of their patterns. Once you can confirm a bot, report it to Ninjaspud or me so that we can review the data and see if we could muster a gank fleet. But be accurate in your assessments, though. We are trying to be as surgically accurate with our strikes as possible. We don't want to gank innocent miners/missioners by accident. Join us on the Bot Grief channel where we coordinate strikes and share intel.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Henry Haphorn If you are that concerned about bots, then come join us in our war against bots. Do more than just petition them. Help us scout for mining/mission bots and track their progress over the weeks for us to get an understanding of their patterns. Once you can confirm a bot, report it to Ninjaspud or me so that we can review the data and see if we could muster a gank fleet. But be accurate in your assessments, though. We are trying to be as surgically accurate with our strikes as possible. We don't want to gank innocent miners/missioners by accident. Join us on the Bot Grief channel where we coordinate strikes and share intel. I cannot gank them, it is a docked in station spam macro that you cannot manipulate with trade windows or convos.
RaTTuS BIG Gentlemen's Agreement	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla Does the "block" option not work in local? or on the forums Join BIG
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:18:00 - [15] "Report ISK spammer" should be renamed to "Repost spam" to facilitate a more effective use of the mechanism. WoW is doing it too so it must be better. It explains everything! The unified field theory of New Eden
Henry Haphorn Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Henry Haphorn If you are that concerned about bots, then come join us in our war against bots. Do more than just petition them. Help us scout for mining/mission bots and track their progress over the weeks for us to get an understanding of their patterns. Once you can confirm a bot, report it to Ninjaspud or me so that we can review the data and see if we could muster a gank fleet. But be accurate in your assessments, though. We are trying to be as surgically accurate with our strikes as possible. We don't want to gank innocent miners/missioners by accident. Join us on the Bot Grief channel where we coordinate strikes and share intel. I cannot gank them, it is a docked in station spam macro that you cannot manipulate with trade windows or convos. Try submitting the petition under a different (but still reasonable) category. But in the meantime, don't be surprised if it takes a long time since the war on bots has created an influx of petitions that has swamped the GMs. You could also try using the website www.reportbots.com. They could help you with directing the petitions better to the GMs. But just so you know, their system is as strict as our system in the sense that they want to be as accurate as possible in their reporting. They don't want junk petitions of "possible" botters. They want excellent petitions of "confirmed" botters.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Henry Haphorn Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Henry Haphorn If you are that concerned about bots, then come join us in our war against bots. Do more than just petition them. Help us scout for mining/mission bots and track their progress over the weeks for us to get an understanding of their patterns. Once you can confirm a bot, report it to Ninjaspud or me so that we can review the data and see if we could muster a gank fleet. But be accurate in your assessments, though. We are trying to be as surgically accurate with our strikes as possible. We don't want to gank innocent miners/missioners by accident. Join us on the Bot Grief channel where we coordinate strikes and share intel. I cannot gank them, it is a docked in station spam macro that you cannot manipulate with trade windows or convos. Try submitting the petition under a different (but still reasonable) category. But in the meantime, don't be surprised if it takes a long time since the war on bots has created an influx of petitions that has swamped the GMs. You could also try using the website www.reportbots.com. They could help you with directing the petitions better to the GMs. But just so you know, their system is as strict as our system in the sense that they want to be as accurate as possible in their reporting. They don't want junk petitions of "possible" botters. They want excellent petitions of "confirmed" botters. I have repeatidly petitioned day after day week after week under Exploits because it is an exploit using macros. I have attached 8 hours of logs showing the 4 minute timing on the dot day after day. Obvious bot is obvious, they would also have activity logs and not just the chat logs I post so they can see if he is active at the client or its just the same old bot which most likely it is as you dont want to interact with the client while the bot is running over the UI, unless he is automating headless which I doubt. It is confirmed by other people too, plus it they can confirm it themselves. The action taken depends on the GM, even tho they publish a company policy on exploiters macroers to us (sticky in this forum) that every GM should follow.
GIGAR Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: GIGAR First off: They recently banned 3000 (? exact number, whatever) bots. Secondly: Considering that there's currently declared war on bots, CCP must be getting considerable amount of bot reports. All of these have to be looked at. I don't work at CCP, but I don't believe they just hit the "BAN!!!!11!!1!!" button as soon as they get a macro report. Thirdly: Incarna is just around the corner. A lot of resources is going into getting it done properly. (that doesn't mean fighting bots isn't important, though) This has been going on for Weeks. The toon is Jesus Christmas Declaring war on bots? So far, they arn't doing anything at all, the macro is still working in Rens local spamming EVERY 4 minutes. The logs are clear. GM's arnt working on Incaran, they are CUSTOMER SUPPORT for the live TQ server. I was talking player-based war, not CCP. ------------ "I've yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet." - Heavy Weapons Guy
DeODokktor Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:26:00 - [19] Originally by: Hot Sleazy Wench Cool another Macro post. What is that 10,000 now? WHAT?!?! OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!! ----------- Never Forget the joy of finding a main to link to a scammer alt. N-y-p-h-u-r ! !
Bane Necran Furtim Vigilans	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:30:00 - [20] Originally by: Aeronwen Carys The irony of you of all people whining about people spamming rubbish is so funny it actually hurts, especially considering the way you spam the Rens local channel with your pointless drivel. Were the rules to be followed to the letter, with immediate effect, you would also doubtless find yourself perma-banned from these forums Miilla. Jesus Christmas isn't at the keyboard, and that's a huge difference. Miilla may be annoying but at least he/she is human, and doesn't spam every 4 minutes 23/7. Actually made a petition yesterday about him, which is the first time i've ever reported someone, or some, thing, in this case. Didn't bother me at first, but i've put up with it for weeks now and it's just getting ridiculous. His name is also against the naming policy, so he's just rubbing it in everyones faces that CCP does nothing to enforce their own rules.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 15:31:00 - [21] Edited by: Miilla on 26/05/2011 15:32:58 Originally by: Bane Necran Originally by: Aeronwen Carys The irony of you of all people whining about people spamming rubbish is so funny it actually hurts, especially considering the way you spam the Rens local channel with your pointless drivel. Were the rules to be followed to the letter, with immediate effect, you would also doubtless find yourself perma-banned from these forums Miilla. Jesus Christmas isn't at the keyboard, and that's a huge difference. Miilla may be annoying but at least he/she is human, and doesn't spam every 4 minutes 23/7. Actually made a petition yesterday about him, which is the first time i've ever reported someone, or some, thing, in this case. Didn't bother me at first, but i've put up with it for weeks now and it's just getting ridiculous. His name is also against the naming policy, so he's just rubbing it in everyones faces that CCP does nothing to enforce their own rules. Exactly, I have no problem with scammers no problem with people that talk a lot, but he is automating it the crap. His toon isnt PLAYING the game, it isnt doing anything IN the game, it is just automating spam. I play the game, I do things, I talk (a lot) but I dont exploit with automation.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 16:11:00 - [22] Edited by: Miilla on 26/05/2011 16:11:22 Live dev blog tonite. Keep mentioning Jesus Christmas's name :) Actually can we invite those bots to join the channel :) lol
Corina's Bodyguard	Posted - 2011.05.26 16:26:00 - [23] It seems to me that spam bots are much harder to confirm (because even if they do spam on the dot, they may just be people with timers who have nothing better to do than mimic a bot... jeez I sound like a nut when saying that). A few spam bots have been banned (maybe more than a few, I can only speak of what I know) but from what I'm aware it was for other macros like market and industry stuff. And other bots are popping left right and center (and I don't just mean their ships and pods). CCP is working on it. But they are highly outnumbered.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 18:55:00 - [24] Here is a days log for the macro. http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1105/JesusChristmas_0525_01.txt
Ladie Scarlet GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:06:00 - [25] You guys could get out of Jita and Rens every once in a while...there's a whole big universe to explore beyond trade hub undocks.
captain foivos	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:07:00 - [26] There's this character named "Miilla" who keeps running around making terrible posts. I've petitioned CCP to stop it from happening but they haven't done anything. Further proof CCP doesn't care about their game. -- Need a break from EVE?
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:08:00 - [27] This is an outrage, Miilla! You should stop playing this corrupted game immediately and never return. -------- Due to bandwidth streamlining, signature images are no longer displayed. Follow this link to view the image.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Ladie Scarlet You guys could get out of Jita and Rens every once in a while...there's a whole big universe to explore beyond trade hub undocks. I do, but the macro's are in other systems too with different names. Point being, they are macros, don't care that they spam or Ive blocked them. You get a wave of 10 people trying to talk to him in local every 4 minutes plus even if you have blocked them, others havnt. CCP put up a sticky stating the macro rules, and punishments, yet they did nothing. Are you saying it is ok to macro?
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:13:00 - [29] Cry moar noob. These macros have more interesting stuff to say than your guff.
Ladie Scarlet GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Miilla Are you saying it is ok to macro? That's not my call to make. It's between them and CCP. They are, however, a million times less annoying than ~l33t~ undock pvp squads who just dock up any time more than one red flashy shows up on the overview.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:14:00 - [31] Originally by: Ladie Scarlet Originally by: Miilla Are you saying it is ok to macro? That's not my call to make. It's between them and CCP. They are, however, a million times less annoying than ~l33t~ undock pvp squads who just dock up any time more than one red flashy shows up on the overview. Is it automated? No, probably not, then not a problem.
Cyno Sid	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:51:00 - [32] And you don't hit block because..........
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 19:55:00 - [33] Originally by: Cyno Sid And you don't hit block because.......... I have it blocked. but not the 10 people that try to talk to him every 4 minutes. And not all the other bots that exist in other systems I fly through. Block list is finite you know.
Astroka	Posted - 2011.05.26 20:51:00 - [34] You might want to remove the character's name before a GM/Dev looks at this thread. Originally by: Ioci Welcome to the bustedness of EVE. 1 guy can disband a 2000 man alliance and wipe out trillions, that's cool. Give back a noob 10 mill? No, that's game breaking.
Jno Aubrey Galactic Patrol	Posted - 2011.05.26 21:11:00 - [35] Originally by: Miilla I have repeatidly petitioned day after day week after week under Exploits because it is an exploit using macros. There's your problem - its not an exploit. Its a EULA violation. Try using the right category and maybe the GM won't get so annoyed at you that he ignores your petition spam. __________________________________________________ Name a shrub after me; something prickly and hard to eradicate.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.05.26 22:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Jno Aubrey Originally by: Miilla I have repeatidly petitioned day after day week after week under Exploits because it is an exploit using macros. There's your problem - its not an exploit. Its a EULA violation. Try using the right category and maybe the GM won't get so annoyed at you that he ignores your petition spam. MACROs are automation exploits, GMs can move petitions about catagories or are they that useless too?
BLACK-STAR	Posted - 2011.05.26 22:06:00 - [37] I don't think the OP is lying about bot chat spammers. there is 200+ present always in jita, they're gone until they relog backin after a TQ hiccup but usually present at mass after DT. nuisance and illegal.
Henry Haphorn Gallente	Posted - 2011.05.27 04:15:00 - [38] Originally by: Miilla MACROs are automation exploits, GMs can move petitions about catagories or are they that useless too? It doesn't matter. If you haven't bothered to notice when creating the petition, a little note briefly appears as you scroll over the categories. One of them mentions that if a ban petition is submitted in the exploit category, they will get deleted by the GMs because the category doesn't match the petition (yeah, they're that anal about it). So get your **** straight and submit the petition correctly.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.05.27 05:31:00 - [39] what a double edged sword. Obviously a macro is a macro, however a macro making money mining or killing npc's much worse. If they don't ban obvious macro users that aren't RMT'ing it looks like they aren't banning the RMT'ers either. And then theres the botters who don't RMT but use "real" macros (I.E. beyond chat spam). Are they "middle" priority? . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.05.27 06:32:00 - [40] Getting rid of bots is counter to CCPs goal of 600k subscribers to make their sale more attractive to buyers.

CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.27 07:07:00 - [41] CCP Sreegs is preparing a dev blog that will outline our progress on the war on bots and touch upon some other interesting stuff as well. Stay tuned! Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Hecatonis Amarr	Posted - 2011.05.27 07:39:00 - [42] why is it hard just to ignore local? CCP shouldnt even bother with this kind of bots, the are frankly the only kind the general eve populous cant deal with and be 100% effective with, without any effort or time spent doing it. ignore them local chat in a trade hub is pointless, just close the window do what you need to do, and leave, problem solved. __________________________________________________ stop acting like tw*ts and use your brain
Aderata Nonkin Amarr	Posted - 2011.05.27 09:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Getting rid of bots is counter to CCPs goal of 600k subscribers to make their sale more attractive to buyers. Now I know you're an idiot. Why don't you turn around and spout your tinfoil hat rubbish on your offline blog instead. That way you can keep your "little secrets" to yourself and nobody has to read the rubbish. æIf you are not big enough to lose, then you are not big enough to win.Æ
mkint	Posted - 2011.05.27 09:10:00 - [44] Originally by: CCP Spitfire CCP Sreegs is preparing a dev blog that will outline our progress on the war on bots and touch upon some other interesting stuff as well. Stay tuned! ^^ CCP feeding the current forums failtroll.
ISquishWorms	Posted - 2011.05.27 09:36:00 - [45] Originally by: CCP Spitfire CCP Sreegs is preparing a dev blog that will outline our progress on the war on bots and touch upon some other interesting stuff as well. Stay tuned! Thanks Spitfire, I look forward to reading this.
Cassina Lemour Minmatar Staner Industries	Posted - 2011.05.27 13:20:00 - [46] Originally by: Calathea Sata "Report ISK spammer" should be renamed to "Repost spam" to facilitate a more effective use of the mechanism. +1 This
Hot Sleazy Wench	Posted - 2011.05.27 14:27:00 - [47] Originally by: Lady Spank Cry moar noob. These macros have more interesting stuff to say than your guff. Now that made me laugh !!! Thank You...

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