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Sturmwolke	Posted - 2011.05.27 11:51:00 - [1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13545386 "I think what you've got there is a clash of prototypical German efficiency with the prototypical British sense of fair play"
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 11:56:00 - [2] Edited by: Astenion on 27/05/2011 11:58:58 The Brits by far. Germans are just anal-retentive and direct, while Brits tend to be very passive aggressive...it's what makes Brit humor so funny. They're so rude that it's comedic to them; they don't realize that having a sense of humor doesn't give you the right to berate people, and they don't understand why some people take offense because all they do is berate everyone they come into contact with. That's not to say they're uncouth...it's just very subtle, and so many people don't even realize they're being berated until after the fact, which is actually quite genius. I would say there's much more malice behind it, however, than with the Germans.
Iasius Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:00:00 - [3] Edited by: Iasius on 27/05/2011 12:07:50 Both the Germans and the English are snobs. An honest snob is better than faux populism. I have been to Germany once for work. It was amusing how the sales manager was very enthusiastic towards me and interested in my ideas but with the overarching tone that his procedures were better than our UK ones and we are not going to change them anyway. But for the small sales office his procedures were ideal. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. ~Saint
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:04:00 - [4] Originally by: Astenion They're so rude that it's comedic to them; they don't realize that having a sense of humor doesn't give you the right to berate people, and they don't understand why some people take offense because all they do is berate everyone they come into contact with. That's not to say they're uncouth...it's just very subtle, and so many people don't even realize they're being berated until after the fact, which is actually quite genius. I would say there's much more malice behind it, however, than with the Germans. Maybe with modern British humor, but old British humor was much more friendly.
AlleyKat Gallente The Unwanted.	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:12:00 - [5] Like most countries, and as indicated in that article, it is a social misunderstanding based on language. German language is stikomythical, whereas British people (depending on region) will be less implicit in their conversations. As the english language is so much a cut n paste of Europe, the complexity of simple conversation has evolved into a series of half-statements where tonality and cadence means more than what is being said. As for the British being rude? I don't necessarilly disagree with that perception. AK EVE-ONLINE Video-Making Tutorials Vid - New Tricks
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:46:00 - [6] How does small talk make us rude?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.05.27 13:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley How does small talk make us rude? Bordering on dishonesty, not rudeness. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 13:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Wilhelm Riley How does small talk make us rude? Bordering on dishonesty, not rudeness. And the irony is we're trying to be polite
somebadgergotherpes	Posted - 2011.05.27 13:23:00 - [9] British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world
Lubna Xerox Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.05.27 14:26:00 - [10] Originally by: somebadgergotherpes British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world What? Spired the world? Are you joking? Ow and by the way you'll tell to that Morrissey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgxEJOi6GtA that Jeanne d'Arc never had any walkman. Ha :O Vive la France!

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.05.27 14:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Wilhelm Riley How does small talk make us rude? Bordering on dishonesty, not rudeness. And the irony is we're trying to be polite When you're trying to be polite, you're trying to NOT say what you want to say, but something the other party would rather prefer to hear. Being polite is bordering on dishonesty, isn't it ? _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Lubna Xerox Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.05.27 14:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Akita T When you're trying to be polite, you're trying to NOT say what you want to say, but something the other party would rather prefer to hear. Being polite is bordering on dishonesty, isn't it ? Ow , us french, when we are trying to be polite, we try to NOT say what we DON'T want to say, but something the other would rather prefer to NOT hear. That's quite honest, even if we fail at it.
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 14:53:00 - [13] Originally by: somebadgergotherpes British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world That's because you are unable to tell where something stops being humorous and starts being rude and passive aggressive. Monty Python is over. The fact is your sense of humor is dead. You don't have a true sense of humor because what you consider humorous these days, other people would consider arrogant and rude. We're not talking about Little Britain, The Office, or The IT Crowd; we're talking about how the English interact with other people...you insult them in what you consider a joking way. Then, just like you said, you think "the rest of the world has failed to adapt to your sense of humor". What you don't realize is that it is YOU who have failed to adapt to the rest of the world. A little light joking or prodding never hurt anyone, but that's not what this is about. You often cross the line by having fun at others' expense, but in a crass way as of late. It's the way of the world, though. If we're going to generalize, Americans are ignorant, Germans are anal, the French are @ssholes, and the English are snobbish pr!cks.
Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2011.05.27 14:53:00 - [14] Originally by: Akita T When you're trying to be polite, you're trying to NOT say what you want to say, but something the other party would rather prefer to hear. That's called being diplomatic, although there is some overlap with being polite. Politeness is not necessarily even close to dishonesty.
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:03:00 - [15] That depends on what you consider polite and what you consider diplomatic. You can still get your point across honestly in a polite way...that would be considered being diplomatic. Being polite by telling someone their food is good when it's not is not being diplomatic...that's lying. Being diplomatic would be to let someone know you aren't fond of something but in a polite way.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:05:00 - [16] Edited by: Akita T on 27/05/2011 15:09:14 Originally by: Cpt Placeholder Originally by: Akita T When you're trying to be polite, you're trying to NOT say what you want to say, but something the other party would rather prefer to hear. That's called being diplomatic, although there is some overlap with being polite. Politeness is not necessarily even close to dishonesty. No, being diplomatic is saying what you want to say in a way that will offend the other party the least. Example ? You have just received a gift you don't like. RUDE : "That's a crappy gift, what the hell were you thinking". POLITE : "Oh, what a lovely gift, I am so happy you remembered to give me one". DIPLOMATIC : "I appreciate the gesture, but it's not quite what I had in mind, I hope you don't mind if I exchange it for something else". _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:06:00 - [17] Edited by: Astenion on 27/05/2011 15:08:23 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Cpt Placeholder Originally by: Akita T When you're trying to be polite, you're trying to NOT say what you want to say, but something the other party would rather prefer to hear. That's called being diplomatic, although there is some overlap with being polite. Politeness is not necessarily even close to dishonesty. No, being diplomatic is saying what you want to say in a way that will offend the other party the least. Akita wins again! One internet for Akita! My honest opinion about this boils down to the fact that the English have extremely thick skin, almost too thick. It's really nearly impossible to offend them overtly.
Lubna Xerox Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Akita T No, being diplomatic is saying what you want to say in a way that will offend the other party the least. This^ If someone can translate better than I would do: Je parle espagnol a Dieu, italien aux femmes, frantais aux hommes et allemand a mon cheval. [Charles Quint]
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:12:00 - [19] I prefer to talk rather directly to make my point clear, or understand what the opininion of the one I talk to is. Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Astenion That depends on what you consider polite and what you consider diplomatic. You can still get your point across honestly in a polite way...that would be considered being diplomatic. [...] Being diplomatic would be to let someone know you aren't fond of something but in a polite way. I mostly agree, that's why I phrased it as "not necessarily ~ dishonest". When asking for something you can be anywhere between polite and rude, and I see no dishonesty in being polite there. Lying to not insult someone can be viewed as politeness or diplomacy, with a mix of dishonesty, depending on context/degree.

Caldari Citizen20090217	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Lubna Xerox If someone can translate better than I would do: Je parle espagnol a Dieu, italien aux femmes, frantais aux hommes et allemand a mon cheval. [Charles Quint] "I speak Spanish to God, Italian to women, French to men and German to my horse." I too have played Medieval II Total war.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:35:00 - [22] "You're all tosspots who wouldn't know politeness if it punched you in the face." Is that rude, polite or British?
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:51:00 - [23] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley "You're all tosspots who wouldn't know politeness if it punched you in the face." Is that rude, polite or British? Definitely British.
Blacksquirrel	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:54:00 - [24] What no French or Italian option? Whats more rude than foul body odor in public or someone invading your personal space...or attempting to ** you. Also who has the worse insults? I'd say the brits they use the hell out of **. Even sailors everywhere else cringe at it.
Iva Posavec Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari	Posted - 2011.05.27 15:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Blacksquirrel What no French or Italian option? Also who has the worse insults? I'd say the Brits they use the hell out of **. Even sailors everywhere else cringe at it. I think there are plenty of Brits who still cringe when someone uses that word, although I hear it more and more nowadays. Ze Germanz are the rudest though, us Brits go for a leisurely holiday in the sun and the Germans steal all of the sun loungers. Alliance Creation**
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 16:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Astenion Definitely British. See, that's something I'd never say to my worst enemy.. except as an example.
Iasius Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.05.27 16:06:00 - [27] As long as hollywood carries on casting British actors as baddies it is all good Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. ~Saint
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 16:09:00 - [28] Originally by: Iasius As long as hollywood carries on casting British actors as baddies it is all good Is House a bad guy or a good guy?
Iasius Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.05.27 16:12:00 - [29] I have not watched House yet. I will put it on my movie rental list. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. ~Saint
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 17:35:00 - [30] But in the series House he's an American.

Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 17:37:00 - [31] Originally by: Blacksquirrel What no French or Italian option? Whats more rude than foul body odor in public or someone invading your personal space...or attempting to ** you. Also who has the worse insults? I'd say the brits they use the hell out of . Even sailors everywhere else cringe at it. The French, yes, but Italians? I live here and I've yet to experience this...and I've been living in Italy since 2003. Italian men are such pansies that you'd have the opposite effect: they smell like a French w*ehouse with all the beauty products they use. I dunno, I live in the north. Maybe it's a southern thing.
Scorpionidae	Posted - 2011.05.27 17:57:00 - [32] Lol All you people that say the brits are snobs or the german are snobs are so hypocritical. You all make me LOL Scorpionidae
Ultim8Evil Ministry Of Eternal Disorder	Posted - 2011.05.27 18:04:00 - [33] Edited by: Ultim8Evil on 27/05/2011 18:05:44 As an Englishman who has lived in various towns throughout Germany over the last 10 years, I can safely say they are the most genuinely friendly people I have ever met. Much better than the fake "have a nice day now" sugar-coated **** you get from 99% of Americans. Treading the fine line of this being branded a racism thread aside, surely the French are the rudest most obnoxious species on the planet? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 18:24:00 - [34] Originally by: Ultim8Evil Edited by: Ultim8Evil on 27/05/2011 18:05:44 As an Englishman who has lived in various towns throughout Germany over the last 10 years, I can safely say they are the most genuinely friendly people I have ever met. Much better than the fake "have a nice day now" sugar-coated **** you get from 99% of Americans. Treading the fine line of this being branded a racism thread aside, surely the French are the rudest most obnoxious species on the planet? Rudest, possibly. Most obnoxious? It'd be a cross between they and we Americans. Still, the English are the most insufferable pr!cks imo. They're more polite than the French and less obnoxious than the Americans, but their insufferable arrogance is something that even the rest of the world can agree on.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 18:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Astenion their insufferable arrogance is something that even the rest of the world can agree on. Because we all know how arrogant Americans aren't.
Vogue Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.05.27 18:39:00 - [36] Edited by: Vogue on 27/05/2011 18:45:16 Edited by: Vogue on 27/05/2011 18:44:17 Someone of any nationality can say all sorts of nasty words to me. It simply gets down to what their agenda is. Context is everything. But we all come across differently. The 'judging a book by its cover' is a common social mishap. You could like someone on these forums from what they post. But if you meet them anonymously in public you could have a totally different first impression. Myself I am unrefined and socially clumsy which is at odd's with my forum smart-arse persona .................................................. Fortress Of Solitude
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 19:13:00 - [37] Edited by: Astenion on 27/05/2011 19:14:26 Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Astenion their insufferable arrogance is something that even the rest of the world can agree on. Because we all know how arrogant Americans aren't. No no, Americans aren't arrogant; they're just ignorant and annoying, sometimes willfully. Arrogance has an undertone of culture and class, which is something that American arrogance is without. Ask for directions from an American in the US and they'll bend over backwards to help you find where you need to go. Ask directions from someone in London and they'll simply either ignore you or smirk and walk away. I've noticed in the north it's much, much better with the people much more open and friendly. Maybe it's a Londoner thing. This is just perception, however.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 19:15:00 - [38] Originally by: Astenion Ask for directions from an American in the US and they'll bend over backwards to help you find where you need to go. Ask directions from someone in London and they'll simply either ignore you or smirk and walk away. I've noticed in the north it's much, much better with the people much more open and friendly. Maybe it's a Londoner thing. This is just perception, however. There are people like that all over America, in every country in fact. None of this is localized to any particular group.
Vogue Short Bus Pole Dancers	Posted - 2011.05.27 19:30:00 - [39] Edited by: Vogue on 27/05/2011 19:34:51 Edited by: Vogue on 27/05/2011 19:32:16 London is a fast paced global metropolitan city. But like any big city there are different locales to suit people. In Hampstead you will see scruffy old people who are millionaires. Whereas Chelsea is popular with new money on new cloths and probably has seen a lot of new money fall to ashes during recessions. If you ask a rich fuddy duddy for directions in Hampstead you more likely will get a response than a nouveau riche type in Chelsea. Though In general British people are guarded in public to strangers. I think this is an offshoot of us being somewhat shifty. I think this is from the UK's history of being an island nation that went out and built an empire. .................................................. Fortress Of Solitude
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.05.27 19:33:00 - [40] Edited by: Mag''s on 27/05/2011 19:33:29 Originally by: Astenion Still, the English are the most insufferable pr!cks imo. They're more polite than the French and less obnoxious than the Americans, but their insufferable arrogance is something that even the rest of the world can agree on. That's because we're better than you. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.

Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 19:46:00 - [41] Edited by: Astenion on 27/05/2011 19:48:07 Originally by: Mag's Edited by: Mag''s on 27/05/2011 19:33:29 Originally by: Astenion Still, the English are the most insufferable pr!cks imo. They're more polite than the French and less obnoxious than the Americans, but their insufferable arrogance is something that even the rest of the world can agree on. That's because we're better than you. And honestly, YOU'RE RIGHT! As a whole they're smarter, more cultured, more awake, and better educated than the rest of us Americans, which is why I pardon their snootiness...generalizing, of course. Their business sense parallels our own and there's a reason why London is the OTHER center of the world next to NYC. If I didn't own a house in Italy, I'd move to the UK in a heartbeat because the thought of moving back to the US just saddens me. I wish it weren't so, but it is. The English are so infuriating because although they may p!ss you off, deep down you admire them for it. What's more, they don't hold grudges...not really. They may never let you live something down but it's never crass and obnoxious like we can be.
Ultim8Evil Ministry Of Eternal Disorder	Posted - 2011.05.27 20:12:00 - [42] The best thing about being English is our rich and interesting history that spans over many centuries. A monarchy whose acheivements and failings have been documented for a thousand years. The quirks and customs brought to us by the many visitor to our land; Romans, Saxons, Angles, Jutes, Vikings, Normans etc. As an avid history fan, if I were American it would infuriate me knowing that until about 500 years ago, there was nothing. Apart from wigwams, teepees and feathery hats. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 20:43:00 - [43] Originally by: Ultim8Evil The best thing about being English is our rich and interesting history that spans over many centuries. Not to mention the hoards of treasure from all the aforementioned cultures.
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2011.05.27 21:19:00 - [44] Originally by: Astenion Originally by: somebadgergotherpes British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world That's because you are unable to tell where something stops being humorous and starts being rude and passive aggressive. Monty Python is over. The fact is your sense of humor is dead. You don't have a true sense of humor because what you consider humorous these days, other people would consider arrogant and rude. We're not talking about Little Britain, The Office, or The IT Crowd; we're talking about how the English interact with other people...you insult them in what you consider a joking way. Then, just like you said, you think "the rest of the world has failed to adapt to your sense of humor". What you don't realize is that it is YOU who have failed to adapt to the rest of the world. A little light joking or prodding never hurt anyone, but that's not what this is about. You often cross the line by having fun at others' expense, but in a crass way as of late. . I find offense at this remark sir. I honestly and thoroughly enjoy british humor. So much in fact that the way they behave and their small talk is to me an endless source of sheer amusement. I find for that matter French humor a bit misguided and American humor kinda simple and childish. Monty Python might be over for you Sir, not for others. Also I'm Latinamerican, humor here can be quite rude, aggressive at other's expenses and downright insulting if not plain homophobic/sexual orientation geared and for some reason dealing with all kinds of sexuality or weird innuendos and human body orifices. Common jokes in here involve phrases that no matter the context will always involve sexual intercourse when spoken out loud or the famous rebuttals when you counter a joke made on your expense with an even more demeaning counter joke involving sexuality or lack of it. See, first rule of thumb I learned when dealing with gringos for example Is I can't simply treat them the way I treat my friends with open greetings of what they will consider insults and is simply a form of jokingly implying that if you can say such insults to someone it means you a friend. That's culture for you, Western Venezuela one anyway, Panamanians here are a bit touchy too (har har) and their humor tends to ridicule others as they criticize them to death, whereas common bonds in joking are established by criticizing the same things. Where I come from it's pretty usual to not understand if two very close friends meet in the street if they are about to draw guns and fists and kill each other or simply acknowledging by the ammount of insults they truly friends. When written like that sounds odd, but in action is more natural. On the other side you can see, the British humor is so overtly different to what Im used to hear regarding which orifice you enjoy poking at, that Brit humor is practically the same with a musical overtone. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the crass latinamerican sexual innuendo humor I'm used to, but I truly enjoy it when it's being used in a "polite" setting. It's hysterical!!! Now, German humor, hmmm, never heard any of their jokes tho. The fact you dislike the brits and their humor is just an obvious bias of you regarding what you find in them not tolerable, which seems to be making jokes at other's expense. That's a core of our humor too, simply more crass and demeaning. But I know that deep down if you were my rl friend we could insult each other no problem --- Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
Kattshiro Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.27 21:45:00 - [45] ITT People don't think their **** stinks.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.27 21:58:00 - [46] Originally by: Kattshiro ITT People don't think their **** stinks. Depends what their diets are really.
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2011.05.27 22:57:00 - [47] This --- Viva VENEZUELA!!! Archipelago Theory
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 23:27:00 - [48] Edited by: Astenion on 27/05/2011 23:28:49 Originally by: Brujo Loco Originally by: Astenion Originally by: somebadgergotherpes British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world That's because you are unable to tell where something stops being humorous and starts being rude and passive aggressive. Monty Python is over. The fact is your sense of humor is dead. You don't have a true sense of humor because what you consider humorous these days, other people would consider arrogant and rude. We're not talking about Little Britain, The Office, or The IT Crowd; we're talking about how the English interact with other people...you insult them in what you consider a joking way. Then, just like you said, you think "the rest of the world has failed to adapt to your sense of humor". What you don't realize is that it is YOU who have failed to adapt to the rest of the world. A little light joking or prodding never hurt anyone, but that's not what this is about. You often cross the line by having fun at others' expense, but in a crass way as of late. . I find offense at this remark sir. I honestly and thoroughly enjoy british humor. So much in fact that the way they behave and their small talk is to me an endless source of sheer amusement. I find for that matter French humor a bit misguided and American humor kinda simple and childish. Monty Python might be over for you Sir, not for others. Also I'm Latinamerican, humor here can be quite rude, aggressive at other's expenses and downright insulting if not plain homophobic/sexual orientation geared and for some reason dealing with all kinds of sexuality or weird innuendos and human body orifices. Common jokes in here involve phrases that no matter the context will always involve sexual intercourse when spoken out loud or the famous rebuttals when you counter a joke made on your expense with an even more demeaning counter joke involving sexuality or lack of it. See, first rule of thumb I learned when dealing with gringos for example Is I can't simply treat them the way I treat my friends with open greetings of what they will consider insults and is simply a form of jokingly implying that if you can say such insults to someone it means you a friend. That's culture for you, Western Venezuela one anyway, Panamanians here are a bit touchy too (har har) and their humor tends to ridicule others as they criticize them to death, whereas common bonds in joking are established by criticizing the same things. Where I come from it's pretty usual to not understand if two very close friends meet in the street if they are about to draw guns and fists and kill each other or simply acknowledging by the ammount of insults they truly friends. When written like that sounds odd, but in action is more natural. On the other side you can see, the British humor is so overtly different to what Im used to hear regarding which orifice you enjoy poking at, that Brit humor is practically the same with a musical overtone. I'm not saying I don't enjoy the crass latinamerican sexual innuendo humor I'm used to, but I truly enjoy it when it's being used in a "polite" setting. It's hysterical!!! Now, German humor, hmmm, never heard any of their jokes tho. The fact you dislike the brits and their humor is just an obvious bias of you regarding what you find in them not tolerable, which seems to be making jokes at other's expense. That's a core of our humor too, simply more crass and demeaning. But I know that deep down if you were my rl friend we could insult each other no problem You completely missed the point and didn't read my post. I grew up on Monty Python. What I'm saying is that era of British humor is over, the high-brow sort of thing prevalent in the people. It's a little baser these days, that's all. You're confusing television with personal interaction.
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.27 23:30:00 - [49] This is quite possibly the funniest thing ever written in the history of man. Caribou...GOOOOOONE!
Milla Lekarariba Minmatar Syndicated Systems ROMANIAN-LEGION	Posted - 2011.05.28 03:40:00 - [50] I have travelled to many a place in the world and here is what I found. 1. That no matter where you go you will always find rude people 2. also as with above you will always find more polite people As an Englishman, I find it very hard to believe those that call us rude, hard to believe they have genuinely been to the UK. Trouble is, go to almost any big city, in any country and most of the time you will not get the same politeness you would get say in a smaller town, or village, or tourist spot. Every race on this Earth has their faults, but there are not widespread. Many would say the Americans are ignorant to the outside world, and complete idiots who know nothing but that God Bless America Routine, BUT I have to say that while that is what it often seems like, it could not be more further from the truth for a lot of Americans. Someone already said it, but I will say it again, Do not judge a book by its cover

Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2011.05.28 04:07:00 - [51] I have been many places, from USA and South America, from England to India, and I can honestly say in my experience, no one culture is any more or less rude than the next. Smile, be patient, don't be rude your self, and we find that people are the same every where, the differences are superficial. There are of course whack jobs, but they're all over the place too. The Real Space Initiative - V7
AlleyKat Gallente The Unwanted.	Posted - 2011.05.28 10:09:00 - [52] Originally by: Milla Lekarariba ...Every race on this Earth has their faults... Funny, I thought we were all the same. Y'know, humans. Do you personally consider other people to be of some sort of different race? And do you rank them in terms of superiority by any chance? Something for you to think about.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.28 10:20:00 - [53] Originally by: Milla Lekarariba Every race on this Earth has their faults... There is only one true race.. the human race!
Millie Clode Amarr Insert Cool Name Here	Posted - 2011.05.28 10:21:00 - [54] Originally by: Milla Lekarariba As an Englishman, I find it very hard to believe those that call us rude, hard to believe they have genuinely been to the UK. They've probably been to London and think that's representative of the whole country. Having lived in London for more than a decade, I can see how they would get this impression of a mob of unfriendly, unwashed petty criminals. ---------- Who, me?
Silas Cooper	Posted - 2011.05.28 11:28:00 - [55] I'm from Holland, here people can be quite rude and it comes in various forms, UK folks can be pretty rude as well. Never had any issues in Germany. -- You can't cure stupid.
Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2011.05.28 14:16:00 - [56] Originally by: Millie Clode Originally by: Milla Lekarariba As an Englishman, I find it very hard to believe those that call us rude, hard to believe they have genuinely been to the UK. They've probably been to London and think that's representative of the whole country. Having lived in London for more than a decade, I can see how they would get this impression of a mob of unfriendly, unwashed petty criminals. Indeed. I would have to say in many parts of London, people are extremely rude. I've taken my wife there a couple of times and she dislikes it for that very reason. Much of it could be down to the fast paced, cosmopolitan life of the place I guess. Originally by: Allestin Villimar Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it. Originally by: Torothanax Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
Lord Zap Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings	Posted - 2011.05.29 07:27:00 - [57] Originally by: AlleyKat Originally by: Milla Lekarariba ...Every race on this Earth has their faults... Funny, I thought we were all the same. Y'know, humans. Do you personally consider other people to be of some sort of different race? And do you rank them in terms of superiority by any chance? Something for you to think about. 'Race' is often used as a byword for culture these days. It's pretty important to make this distinction before pointing fingers and mentioning racial superiority. Judging by the tone of the post you refer to I would hazard a guess there is no implied malice.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.05.29 07:48:00 - [58] Never met a rude German, they've always been nice to me. Originally by: Xenuria I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
Aeronwen Carys Empire of Dust	Posted - 2011.05.29 10:04:00 - [59] Originally by: Astenion Originally by: somebadgergotherpes British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world That's because you are unable to tell where something stops being humorous and starts being rude and passive aggressive. Monty Python is over. The fact is your sense of humor is dead. You don't have a true sense of humor because what you consider humorous these days, other people would consider arrogant and rude. It would be nice to see some proof of this, rather than rhetoric masquerading as fact.
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.29 12:30:00 - [60] Edited by: Astenion on 29/05/2011 12:31:37 Originally by: Aeronwen Carys Originally by: Astenion Originally by: somebadgergotherpes British Humor Best Humor Is British I believe the rest of the world has failed to adapt to our sense of humor, even after our empire spired the world That's because you are unable to tell where something stops being humorous and starts being rude and passive aggressive. Monty Python is over. The fact is your sense of humor is dead. You don't have a true sense of humor because what you consider humorous these days, other people would consider arrogant and rude. It would be nice to see some proof of this, rather than rhetoric masquerading as fact. Listen to how the English interact with each other and other people...especially others. Of course, if you're English you won't get it, so by providing you "proof" that your sense of humor is often degrading and at the expense of other people (whether overtly or passive aggressively) wouldn't change anything. That doesn't mean it's not hilarious and I never said it wasn't funny, but it's no longer a "sense of humor"; rather, malice and passive aggressiveness wrapped up in humor form. I think Ricky Gervais is absolutely brilliant and every time he opens his mouth he makes my sides hurt from laughing so hard, but it's because he's rather malicious and very passive aggressive. I never said it wasn't funny, only that it's rather mean and not really what people would call classic Brit humor such as Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Are You Being Served? Red Dwarf, etc. where the humor was often between the lines and much more high brow.

Ultim8Evil Ministry Of Eternal Disorder	Posted - 2011.05.29 13:28:00 - [61] Edited by: Ultim8Evil on 29/05/2011 13:28:08 Originally by: Astenion Stuff Another example of an extremely funny, malicious, passive aggressive comedian would be Jimmy Carr. Ricky Gervais' TV shows are totally **. I can't stand The Office; it has to be one of the most over-rated programmes on TV. Utter garbage. Extras was too. Where Ricky Gervais shines is his stand-up comedy. I have all of his stand-up DVDs (Animals, Politics, Fame, Science) and they are **-your-pants funny, especially Animals and Politics. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.05.29 14:05:00 - [62] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Wilhelm Riley How does small talk make us rude? Bordering on dishonesty, not rudeness. And the irony is we're trying to be polite When you're trying to be polite, you're trying to NOT say what you want to say, but something the other party would rather prefer to hear. Being polite is bordering on dishonesty, isn't it ? If you want toc all it deception by ommission, I suppose. The better sort of english speaker will leave no-one in any doubt as to his opinion, whilst never saying anything that isn't unimpeachably civil Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Astenion Spiritus Draconis	Posted - 2011.05.29 18:23:00 - [63] Originally by: Ultim8Evil Edited by: Ultim8Evil on 29/05/2011 13:28:08 Originally by: Astenion Stuff Another example of an extremely funny, malicious, passive aggressive comedian would be Jimmy Carr. Ricky Gervais' TV shows are totally **. I can't stand The Office; it has to be one of the most over-rated programmes on TV. Utter garbage. Extras was too. Where Ricky Gervais shines is his stand-up comedy. I have all of his stand-up DVDs (Animals, Politics, Fame, Science) and they are **-your-pants funny, especially Animals and Politics. I agree completely!
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.30 01:12:00 - [64] Originally by: Astenion I agree completely! Whereas I disagree, Ricky Gervais is terrible in any format.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.05.30 06:27:00 - [65] I dont really know any Germans, but Brits do tend to have that bull** fake polite whiny attitude, honestly its like most people in this country are kids who NEVER shut up about money, alcohol and TV. I have gotten use to it, simply by avoiding all the places Brits tend to hang out, the pub, their sitting room, the local take away, the dole office etc If only I could put effort in changing my accent and move to a decent country, like France, please, thank you, skint, not fair etc etc. Saying that they are a few decent cities that arent flooded with **s, I have never had anything bad to say about York or Sheffield, Plymouth has some good points too. Ah well they are worse places than England I guess, like northern Wales LOL! . Im not Bismaru, im better!


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