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I'm 5particus Minmatar REV0LTING	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:21:00 - [1] I'm finding a lot of complexes camped by bots in the last room. I fight all the way in and they have already killed the boss/loot structure. Sat and watched them for long time, tried usual anti-bot methods convo auto-rejected. Can't get a suicide fleet in because of gate keys, tried bumping, they don't use drones so cannot force agro. Anybody got any tactics to use against them?
youthink	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:37:00 - [2] When the gate is activated using the proper key, the gate will let through every ship that passes the allowance rule of said gate (frig/destroyer class for 2/10 for example) for a given amount of time. I think it's 10 seconds. So yes, you can very much bring a gank squad in with you.
DeODokktor Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2011.05.27 12:53:00 - [3] I am seeing it a good bit too, but generally with drone ships. They are putting sentry drones out of range, then placing themselves in aggro's way, clearing out all the rats once the majority respawn. So they are not afk (the ones I have seen). ----------- Never Forget the joy of finding a main to link to a scammer alt. N-y-p-h-u-r ! !
oh comeon	Posted - 2011.05.27 16:29:00 - [4] oh who said CCP took care of the bots? way to go.
Tara Haklar Minmatar Shadow Cadre Shadow Confederation	Posted - 2011.05.27 18:16:00 - [5] Originally by: I'm 5particus convo auto-rejected. Because only bots would auto-reject a convo
Rize Overload	Posted - 2011.05.30 21:54:00 - [6] Originally by: I'm 5particus I'm finding a lot of complexes camped by bots in the last room. I fight all the way in and they have already killed the boss/loot structure. Sat and watched them for long time, tried usual anti-bot methods convo auto-rejected. Can't get a suicide fleet in because of gate keys, tried bumping, they don't use drones so cannot force agro. Anybody got any tactics to use against them? Tried reporting them too?
Jin Endashi	Posted - 2011.05.31 00:32:00 - [7] I'll regularly sit in the last room in complexes when skilling up new alts. just set up a ship that can tank the final room, open the loot box in the corner of the screen, and go surf the web/facebook/whatever and come back when the loot spawns. Am I botting?
Centus Commander	Posted - 2011.05.31 00:51:00 - [8] I agree, I do sometimes farm complexes and I don't mind people doing AS LONG AS THEY AREN"T BOTS OR ISK SELLERS! If people are legitly farming them for isk for pvp or whatever that's cool. First come, First Serve. If they're botting that's just wrong. Although most of the bot's are in the angel plexes
Crixus Gallicus	Posted - 2011.05.31 11:13:00 - [9] A true champion needs no reason to clear his arena of opponents. Perhaps you are not a true champion Spartacus.
Dilligafmofo Gallente Sandman Plc	Posted - 2011.05.31 12:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Crixus Gallicus A true champion needs no reason to clear his arena of opponents. Perhaps you are not a true champion Spartacus. The knob is strong in this one
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:56:00 - [11] Actually, whether it's players, bots or whatever, camping in the last room and collecting up the Overseer loot has been a problem for a very long time. Those static complexes are meant to be run through one time, then either go to another one or go back to the start and run through it again. That's the reason for the 45 minutes to 1 hour respawn time. Just because somebody found out a long time ago that they can sit in the last room and fill up their cargohold with Faction/Deadspace loot doesn't make it right. I'm sure CCP never intended for those complexes to be ran like that. This is just another example of an exploit due to bad programming that needs to be corrected. One easy way to fix that would be 5 or 10 minutes after the Overseer loot is collected, the Complex would then kick out all players sitting in the last room.
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2011.05.31 14:13:00 - [12] Originally by: DeMichael Crimson One easy way to fix that would be 5 or 10 minutes after the Overseer loot is collected, the Complex would then kick out all players sitting in the last room. They already have the mechanism in incursions. De-spawn site & beacon when complete and re-spawn beacon in another random part of space. It'll will still remain, static within the system. If done per above, that sets up a totally new way of griefing the botters. Likewise, I foresee metagamers squatting in a completed site until they're ready to do another one or pick a time when it's quieter. The squatting can be mitigated by a forced de-spawning of the beacon after site is complete.
Crixus Gallicus	Posted - 2011.06.01 22:56:00 - [13] Originally by: Dilligafmofo Originally by: Crixus Gallicus A true champion needs no reason to clear his arena of opponents. Perhaps you are not a true champion Spartacus. The knob is strong in this one You sir, clearly never have nor will be a champion of the arena. Your simplistic mind will simply lead your blood to the into the dust that it belongs.
Dilligafmofo Gallente Sandman Plc	Posted - 2011.06.02 11:17:00 - [14] I rest my case
VIP Ares Minmatar BALKAN EXPRESS HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2011.06.03 12:10:00 - [15] You can always position yourself in center of building that drops loot. And once it is popped, either by you or him, do the ninja loot and warp away + dock = profit.
I'm 5particus Minmatar REV0LTING	Posted - 2011.06.03 13:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Crixus Gallicus A true champion needs no reason to clear his arena of opponents. Perhaps you are not a true champion Spartacus. I do not seek a reason, I seek a method to do so without the interference of CONCORD.
I'm 5particus Minmatar REV0LTING	Posted - 2011.06.03 13:38:00 - [17] Originally by: VIP Ares You can always position yourself in center of building that drops loot. And once it is popped, either by you or him, do the ninja loot and warp away + dock = profit. I've tried that, with the intention of provoking aggression so I can kill them, but I cannot click as fast as a bots do. The structure is dead and the can looted within 1-2 seconds of appearing. Go an watch a few. And yes I have reported them, and received will be investigated responses, which are very slow.
I'm 5particus Minmatar REV0LTING	Posted - 2011.06.03 13:42:00 - [18] Originally by: Sturmwolke De-spawn site & beacon when complete and re-spawn beacon in another random part of space. It'll will still remain, static within the system. This would be best fix for CCP.
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.03 18:32:00 - [19] Originally by: I'm 5particus I'm 5particus Quote: I'm 5 So what you are really saying is that you are a child. Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
I'm 5particus Minmatar REV0LTING	Posted - 2011.06.05 14:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins Originally by: I'm 5particus I'm 5particus Quote: I'm 5 So what you are really saying is that you are a child. No I'm a 5 part *** * * * *** cus.
El Geo Group 2	Posted - 2011.06.05 23:11:00 - [21] Originally by: Sturmwolke Originally by: DeMichael Crimson One easy way to fix that would be 5 or 10 minutes after the Overseer loot is collected, the Complex would then kick out all players sitting in the last room. They already have the mechanism in incursions. De-spawn site & beacon when complete and re-spawn beacon in another random part of space. It'll will still remain, static within the system. If done per above, that sets up a totally new way of griefing the botters. Likewise, I foresee metagamers squatting in a completed site until they're ready to do another one or pick a time when it's quieter. The squatting can be mitigated by a forced de-spawning of the beacon after site is complete. im all for the respawn idea but not in the same system - personally i think all the static combat plex's should be added to the exploration queue (maybe add a few to the storyline mission queues aswell, make things interesting), respawn in same region or same constellation - i dont think theyre bots, some of these guys really have nothing better to do than spend their spare time in the last room of a static ded

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