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Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.09.08 18:05:00 -
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There is a search function on this forum. Try looking up how often this has come up before starting a new one, otherwise we end up saying the same things as before over and over.
Just go back and read the old threads (all 30 or so of them in which this gets shot down). |
Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.02 14:47:00 -
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Zeravla Shardani wrote:Then perhaps ccp should stop alowing us to train while we are afk/offline since we are playing but not playing?
Ever hear of snipers? Do you really think they stay awake 24/7 or never leave their position to **** or **** or sleep or eat or anythng? Yes snipers go afk but the enemy doesnt know if or when they do it. Hell the sniper could move on and they often do since it is dangerous for them to stay in one position very long yet the enemy doesnt know this until they actually go out and verify!
Combat forces also use decoys and various forms of deceptive practices to deceive, distract and or delay their enemies.
AFK cloaking is a valid gammng tactic so go get some cheese for your whine :-)
One last point. I played wow for years since it's begining. For years the useless noobs would come into the forums and moan and groan about this change or that change that needed to be made because oh the current system is soooo hard or unfair especially for the noobs. So what has happened now? WoW has become watered down and stupified to appease all the useless morons with IQ's south of 30. I left wow and came to EVE because I got tired of playing in kindercare and wanted to actually think for myself.
So my point is that I hope CCP doesnt listen to all the whining of the noobs and keeps doing what they are doing :-) And all the ignorant low IQ noobs can go back to wow!
Oh and for the one moaning about you posting in the wrong place, ignore him! When a game has been around as long as Eve there is very little that hasn't been discussed already except maybe new content and even that gets old fast. In reality very few people actually research old past post first. Most just want a fast current reply often times from new players who probably were not around when it was last discussed and I see no problem with it. If you don't want to read it then move on. Honestly...ediots that whine about trivial crap like this are about as usefull as the forum grammar police!
Brilliant post. Usually I cant be bothered to rant in afk cloaky threads. But that pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
Also...
Zeravla Shardani wrote:Honestly...ediots that whine about trivial crap like this are about as usefull as the forum grammar police!
"Useful".
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Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.04 16:17:00 -
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Zeravla Shardani wrote:Arduemont wrote:There is a search function on this forum. Try looking up how often this has come up before starting a new one, otherwise we end up saying the same things as before over and over.
Just go back and read the old threads (all 30 or so of them in which this gets shot down). Why should we do that when the old post will probably be locked (which makes no sense). People create new post because they want their views seen and or have further questions. So if having multiple post annoys you dont come crying to us about it, talk to the genius's at ccp who lock post for no good reason!
They're not locked. Go look.
"They're probably locked" is a daft thing to say when you can actually check. If they were locked that would be a very strong argument indeed, but they're not. So you might as well have not opened your mouth. |
Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:13:00 -
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This thread is terrible. |
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Posted - 2012.10.10 00:49:00 -
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Seriously?
Is this thread still going? Do us a favour and look up the old ones, everything you anti-cloakers are saying has been covered literally hundreds of times in previous threads. Do some god damn reading. I am done baby sitting you lot and slowly and patiently explaining why the hundreds of terrible ideas you people come up with are crap.
I just don't get it. What is so wrong with you people that your so damn scared of 1 person in a system? If someone is there and you want to run anomalies, move next door. Is that really that scary? |
Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.15 14:00:00 -
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maciek9 wrote:those afk crybabies to do some PvP while they are in nullsec
Wait, sorry.... Who's a cry baby? The afker, who is afk, or the crybaby crying about the afker, who is afk? |
Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.16 05:04:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Interestingly, the two suggestions that don't do that have nothing to do with cloaks, rather local and cynos.
I've always been of the opinion that the proposed local changes are too much. The idea of a black-ops cyno jammer I see no problem with, except that It wouldn't stop people whining about cloakies.
I spent all yesterday evening chasing and camping four cloakies. Some of them were almost definitely afk, and they rarely moved about. It does get a little tedious, but we got one of them, and I am more than happy to chase the others around for Home Defence purposes. I've always laughed at people complaining about them, because I've had to deal with people doing it since very early in my Eve career and never really had any problems with them. It always infuriates me that people just come straight to the forums to whine that there is "No counter to afk cloaking".
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Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:50:00 -
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maciek9 wrote:
Noone says its as simple as putting probes and scanning cloakers down in 5 sec, clearly rage hinders your ability to
see the problem here and what the solutions proposed are.
And so far the afk cloakers are worst cowards in nullsec, carebears coming to null know they may be forced to fight,
cloakers dont have to bother with that. No to afk living in null i say :P
Clearly rage and fear makes you see a problem here (When there isn't one). I don't see one at all. I deal with cloakies on a daily basis, there is no problem. Camping your system? Move next door. If he follows you he's not afk, therefore set up a gate camp and catch him. |
Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.20 13:12:00 -
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Why is this thread still going on?
Here's how it is:
An afk cloaker, is afk. So he is not doing ANYTHING. So why does he bother you? Simple answer, because your scared that he WILL do something.
Now there are already very good counters to AFK cloakers, you can set up a standing fleet so you can get a quick warp in on anyone who is attacked by him, you can specifically bait and kill him, or better yet, you can move next door to do your ratting/mining whatever. If he follows you to next door, then he's not afk and thus all your stupid argument against the afk cloakers are invalid.
People need to use a little logic. I don't get how people can be so dense and unthinking. There is literally no reason to change afk cloaking. |
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Posted - 2012.10.20 16:24:00 -
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Anyone can be afk 95% of the time and still be an effective killer. Ships that use cloaks already are specifically weaker because of the use of covert cloaks, and the other cloaks slow target speed and ship movement etc. They are already paying for the privilege of being able to cloak.
If you don't agree with people being able to be afk and then kill people, perhaps you should also propose some method of kicking people out of stations if they're afk in a station for more than 30 minutes?
Also, there are already counters for afk cloaking. Something you failed to pass comment on.
As for it being boring dealing with afk cloakies, well so what? |
Arduemont
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Posted - 2012.10.21 15:38:00 -
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There was no content in that post ^^. You said I was crying (when Im the one happy with how it is), and that I was dense, and that AFK cloaking IS a threat (without putting forward any argument for why), and then told me not to bother posting if I cant empathise with your side of the argument when you clearly are just as bad as me.
Lets put this straight with facts, rather than bogus opinion.
1- Afk cloakers are afk, therefore not doing anything.
2- If they're not afk, you can kill them.
3- They can't stop you doing anything except through fear.
4- If your afraid to do something you can change system to do it without fear.
5- If they follow you, they're not afk. Therefore see point 2.
6- Cloaks reduce the combat effectiveness of a ship, by using up slots or from adverse effects.
If your still worried about the fact they can be safe whilst afk, well then you should propose to get rid of POS shields and the ability to dock. Make a counter argument or don't bother responding. |
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