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Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 03:24:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:I do not normally comment on CSM issues, but regrettably some in the CSM have invoked my name in a way that would imply or infer that I advocate for or otherwise support this proposal, which I do not.
I think it is unfortunate that this CSM is so afraid of popular voting that they would invent a new system while trying to pass it off under the guise of 'STV'; I can understand their fear of bloc voting and I respect their opinion, but trying to imply that I somehow support this policy shows that they have a lot of growing up to do. The popular opinion is that the CSM should be focusing on game-related issues and getting results instead of fretting about who 'controls' the CSM itself - after all, who cares who controls a CSM if it accomplishes nothing?
This will be my only comment on the issue. Please do not try to involve me in your proposals again; if you must bring up whether I supported X, Y or Z in the past, we're all in a Skype channel together so there's no excuse for not conferring with me about what I support/do not support before making a public assertion to that effect. Good luck in your future endeavors!
Don't worry folks, the CSM's hard at work redefining democracy. We'll get to critical issues as relates to gameplay after the winter summit. Summit notes to follow shortly after CSM 8 elections conclude. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 05:17:00 -
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"Quick CSM brothers! To EVERadio! We're not being pandered to enough, we need more gladhanding, someone call FunkyBacon! Fire up the tweetfleet cannon! Get Arydanika on the line! We've got some self-congratulatory circlejerking to do! Tally Ho~" (The last part is what I imagine Trebor adding to the conversation.) |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 05:28:00 -
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Protip: I campaign managed the CSM 6 and CSM 7 elections for DekCo/CFC bloc voting. This last cycle you could have taken the #3 and #4 totals and added them to any candidate *except* for #2 and we'd still have come in 1st.
Your fvckgoons proposal won't actually work because I'm smarter than your yaoiboi CSM rep. So let's start from there and decide if this is really a fight you want to have versus addressing some legit issues that might be more important to the overall player experience. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 06:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Courthouse wrote:Protip: I campaign managed the CSM 6 and CSM 7 elections for DekCo/CFC bloc voting. This last cycle you could have taken the #3 and #4 totals and added them to any candidate *except* for #2 and we'd still have come in 1st.
Your fvckgoons proposal won't actually work because I'm smarter than your yaoiboi CSM rep. So let's start from there and decide if this is really a fight you want to have versus addressing some legit issues that might be more important to the overall player experience. Wondering how you knew he was a "yaoiboi". I also will not google that ...
Trebor's made no secret that his RL job was as an importer of animes. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 06:08:00 -
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If they want to come down to our level the least we can do is beat the snot out of them with experience. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 06:42:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
1. As Poetic noted, CSM6 was notoriously homogeneous. While I'd hope CSM diversity was a trend, CSM7 would be the start of it. Without trying to speak for everyone, i think most of CSM7 feels we "lucked out" in terms of having such a diverse council to work and talk with.
This is irrelevant if this council doesn't deliver results. You can bleat about ~CSM Minutes~ this or ~This was talked about~ that, but you haven't *delivered* anything that the playerbase can attribute to this CSM yet.
Quote:2. Some degree of increased complexity would be needed to address the things a plain 1 vote/1 account/1 candidate system does not. I'd be hard pressed to describe a way to simplify the system we currently have. The perfect-world solution I'd like (ranking preferences 1-14 instead of voting for 1 candidate) is unfortunately not very practical. I was never satisfied that "Faux-STV" (which I assume refers to Roberts proposal) would specifically solve the issue, that's why I was looking forward to the community dialogue.
Your solution doesn't actually fix anyt of the issues you mention though. Darius can still scam a seat. Issler would redirect it's votes to some ****** that no one could comprehend like Xenuria or some ****. Riverini would cast votes towards a political adversary and not a "best candidate."
So again, what are you trying to fix here? If you want diversity then deliver political parties, require candidates register as high/low/null sec and take the top vote recipient registered to each that maybe isn't represented in the top 7 and make them alternate #1/2 and watch me register our CFC rep as lowsec and laugh FW all the way back to irrelevance.
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