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Klyith
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:08:00 -
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I am supporting this proposal because I would like to see the next CSM composed entirely of GSF, CFC, and TEST bloc candidates, with 1 single empire / unaligned candidate whom all the other votes eventually collected to. Hopefully that last member will be Trebor himself; that way the CSM has a kind of mascot or jester available to mock. This will helpful to relieve tensions and improve workplace bonding, plus remind them of the stupidity of empire.
In other words, ahahahahahahahahahahaha look how dumb you are. |

Klyith
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:41:00 -
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serras bang wrote: i see a hugh problem with this that may or may not see nothing but null sec players(such as goons test ect) that would get through the prelims on the 2 tier voteing bit
You are correct, primaries would be a bad idea, blocs would be able to pack the field and force unaligned candidates out of the race. Possibly an even worse system than FPTP.
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Klyith
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.09 23:57:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:How the **** do you think anyone'll come up with a system which will fit in the criterias which "The CSM" will approve of, without trying (and failing to) assfuck the CFC/HBC's votes?
What the **** kind of system can we possibly come up with which we'll find fair, given those criterias? To put it more bluntly, do you really think you can come up with a gamed system that the folks in GSF and TEST can't game right back? We're organized and have better information resources!
Did anyone in the CSM ask CCP if they could implement real Single Transferable Voting? Or did Trebor & co look at it and say, "It's too fair, they'll still be able to use their 10k votes to out-elect my 1k votes. We need something like STV but from bizarro-world and dreamed up by Tammany Hall." Because real STV would be the best real voting system to make the votes of unaligned voters count. |

Klyith
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 00:05:00 -
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Nymblar wrote:Alekseyev Karrde wrote:" I'm also not surprised any attempt to address that is met with much resistance by said blocs. Maybe the CSM should start by adressing it in a way where the goal is fair elections instead of actively trying to disenfranchise the majority of voters. Maybe the CSM should stop believing that we're against it because it's bad for us. Maybe we're against it because Terbor's proposal is the stupidest voting system ever committed to words. Election by augury of the guts of sacrificed bulls was a better method.
serras bang wrote: the csm reprecentatives have already said that they have chatted to ccp and ccp also said that this descusion should happen.
CCP said this discussion should happen, but the discussion started out with real STV being thrown out as beyond CCP's capabilities. I'd like to know if that was actually CCP's response or words being put into their mouth. |

Klyith
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 00:47:00 -
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serras bang wrote:the preferance of people is to have an equal representation on the csm council
Everybody gets to be on the CSM!
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