:words:

The current system is gameable by large organized groups. The example system can also be somewhat gamed; the question is, is it more or less gameable? STV with overvotes clearly is more gameable, but CD-STV may not be (and have the advantage of providing more diverse representation in the lower slots of the CSM).

Say what you want about the people in CSM 6. There are plenty of people with grudges out there. But if you compare the accomplishments of CSM 6 with the nonsense being spewed forth by CSM 7, it's all a joke. CSM 6 was truly the good ol' days.

There's tons of things wrong with the game. I'd like to know which of them we are "failing to address to CCP"

The lack of having an answer on hand says a lot about the whine on this thread

I heard we're losing Dek. I don't believe it though, since EN24 is so wonderfully unbiased.

Faction Warfare.

On wardecs I had a rather serious public and private engagement with CCP Soundwave over dissatisfaction with some aspects of the dec system, and despite not being physically present spear headed the war dec meeting at the CSM summit in which several outstanding issues were raised. Whether CCP will iterate on issues, which ones, and how is still an ongoing discussion in prep for the Winter Expansion

Try again.

Despite not being on the CSM, Hans Jagerblitzen was a main player in providing feedback for FW reforms going into Inferno. Since he's been elected he's worked tirelessly in public and in private to improve the experience of FW players by being in near constant contact with that community shuttling between them and CCP. Despite having to do it by chat, Hans was very vocal during the FW meeting at the CSM summit. There's pages and pages of feedback on the CCP/CSM forums since then about upcoming iterations on FW coming in the Winter patch with Hans, Elise, and many others engaging successfully.

Sooooo more like an easy in field catch.

things take time to program ccp will most likely be worklng on it remmeber ccp also have dust they would like to start getting active on the live server on the winter expansion also so they are actualy really quite busy there prolly still trying to work out the best way to solve it. persides if its really a big problem and legal why the hell aint goons doing it ?

That problem was raised and will be addressed. You're mad about it not being able to happen tomorrow, but pretend that it not happening overnight means that nothing was said about it or will happen to fix it.

Sooo you've p much marginalized your self. Good work.

You are bad at using forums.

"We don't like the public's opinion, so we're going to go full steam ahead, anyway."

I mean seriously, you shouldn't be saying this openly to us. Just convince CCP in private that they should help you rig the elections. Thus far, you've been an excellent CSM for CCP, saying things, not trying to push them and taking all the heat.

I'm sure they'll oblige.

Translation: There's actually people active in these forums that are smart enough to see through our transparent bullshit, so we're just going to quit and force whatever through anyway.

Protip: I campaign managed the CSM 6 and CSM 7 elections for DekCo/CFC bloc voting. This last cycle you could have taken the #3 and #4 totals and added them to any candidate *except* for #2 and we'd still have come in 1st.

Your fvckgoons proposal won't actually work because I'm smarter than your yaoiboi CSM rep. So let's start from there and decide if this is really a fight you want to have versus addressing some legit issues that might be more important to the overall player experience.

If the CSM wants "more representative" voting they would do better to enthuse the general population by demonstrating that they are focused on impartially tackling issues that players care about. Ham-fisted scheming on ways to marginalise those who do bother to vote demonstrates the exact opposite.

Congratulations, you idiots.