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Moses Amos GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.05.30 16:16:00 - [1] What if babby is formed in pilot? How pilot get pragnent? They need to do way do that if mother pilot is podded babby is cloned with her as babby can't fight back. All pilot could be murdering inosent babby which is evl. They need to take the babby back to the father as I am truley sorry for your lots.
Rek Jaiga Minmatar Crimson Path Shaktipat Revelators	Posted - 2011.05.30 16:24:00 - [2] The destruction of a pilot's body when podded is quite literal, and thus any female pilot who is pregnant does lose the baby, while the pilot's mind is transferred to a new body. This is why the few pilots I've known to be pregnant don't fly and stay planet-side. Unity Prevails.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.30 16:27:00 - [3] The pod won't be able to acoomodate the associated physiological effects of pregnancy hence there won't be any pregnant pilot to begin with. Signature removed due to the excess of awesomeness, my lord.
Niques Saji Leutre	Posted - 2011.05.30 16:48:00 - [4] My god man, dont Amarrians teach their slaves how to speak anymore? Get schooled or get lost. What a poor excuse for a capsuleer.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile Naraka.	Posted - 2011.05.30 17:06:00 - [5] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 30/05/2011 17:07:46 It's such a bad idea to fly while pregnant, at least if the mother cares at all whether the unborn child lives or dies. Even highsec is dangerous. I'd really recommend the use of sterile clones to any capsuleer, male or female, but female especially; you can always switch bodies again if you decide you want to have children. Oh, and Mr. Leutre, he's doing that on purpose.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.05.30 21:30:00 - [6] Edited by: Lyn Farel on 30/05/2011 21:30:45 I wonder if the capsule is able to clearly make the difference between the two minds. Can there be intereferences caused by the second brain, either in the interfacing or the brain scanning sequence ? Has anyone tried yet ?
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.30 21:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Lyn Farel I wonder if the capsule is able to clearly make the difference between the two minds. Well, considering that only one of them is connected to a transneural burning scanner... ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.30 21:59:00 - [8] Oh for the love of gods, these is no such thing as a pregnant pilot, you can either be pregnant or a pilot but you cannot be both! Signature removed due to the excess of awesomeness, my lord.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.30 22:15:00 - [9] Well, Ciarente will be very upset to hear that, given that she gave birth to twins recently. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.30 22:44:00 - [10] Well... um... how are the babies doing?
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.30 22:52:00 - [11] I don't know. Ask the mother. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Kazzzi Amarr Heathen Legion Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.05.30 22:56:00 - [12] The Imperial Acadamy did not teach sex ed.
Jason Galente Gallente Sentinels Academy Sentinel Federation	Posted - 2011.05.30 23:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Calathea Sata The pod won't be able to acoomodate the associated physiological effects of pregnancy hence there won't be any pregnant pilot to begin with. Right, the pod would need emergency supplies of macaroni and cheese and cardboard boxes to stave off cravings.
Driselle Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.05.31 03:12:00 - [14] ...And pickles and iced cream. But that would be kinda nasty mixed with pod goo. Proprietor, 'The Razor's Edge Dance Club'
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.31 03:55:00 - [15] Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 31/05/2011 03:56:09 Originally by: Kazzzi The Imperial Acadamy did not teach sex ed. I didn't even know you Amarrians had sex! I just assumed you all reproduced by really, really large-scale mitosis or something. Originally by: Driselle ...And pickles and iced cream. But that would be kinda nasty mixed with pod goo. Everything is nasty mixed with pod goo, Driselle. Everything, actually, except Quafe. If you drink Quafe while in your pod, it's almost... bareable. It's weird, but pod goo actually makes it taste better. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.31 04:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Calathea Sata Oh for the love of gods, these is no such thing as a pregnant pilot, you can either be pregnant or a pilot but you cannot be both! Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Well, Ciarente will be very upset to hear that, given that she gave birth to twins recently. Originally by: Calathea Sata Well... um... how are the babies doing? Far as I know and that anyone's yet able to tell, the kids didn't suffer in the slightest from their mother's unique career. Turns out that the same technology used to keep our clones alive and functioning while they're in storage works just fine for keeping a pregnant body alive and gestating as well. Cia clone-jumped whenever her day called for piloting but told me she felt uncomfortable doing so, understandably. Of course, we're not talking a well-researched field here but as far as I know, there's no reason to believe Jan and Madlen won't develop completely normally. At most they'll have missed out on a little hormonal stimulation when Cia was clone-jumped away, but still to a much lesser extent than your average Caldari tube kid, and tube children turn out just fine. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.05.31 09:06:00 - [17] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Lyn Farel I wonder if the capsule is able to clearly make the difference between the two minds. Well, considering that only one of them is connected to a transneural burning scanner... Oh yes, but the second one is still inside and connected to the mother via biological links (but no neural links). Though, I suppose, you are right, of course. I have to admit this is something I never really thought of.
Syn Callibri Minmatar 21st Eridani Lighthorse	Posted - 2011.05.31 11:14:00 - [18] I have absolutely no idea how to answer the question here, my daughter was born some time before I became a capsuleer.
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.05.31 11:58:00 - [19] Edited by: Zelda Wei on 31/05/2011 11:59:25 Originally by: Moses Amos What if babby is formed in pilot? How pilot get pragnent? They need to do way do that if mother pilot is podded babby is cloned with her as babby can't fight back. All pilot could be murdering inosent babby which is evl. They need to take the babby back to the father as I am truley sorry for your lots. Does this mean pregnant female podders can travel safely in Goon space or this another attempt to pad your killboards... with a two for the price of one offer.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.31 12:02:00 - [20] Pregnant woman clone jumping with the baby(s) intact... It sounds impossi- Oh. Cloned babies!
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.31 12:34:00 - [21] Originally by: Calathea Sata Pregnant woman clone jumping with the baby(s) intact... It sounds impossi- Oh. Cloned babies! No. Look, there's nothing mystic or impossible about it, okay? It's just a question of keeping the pregnant body on life support while the mother's mind isn't present. The biological functions of pregnancy are self-controlling and don't require any more than that the mother be physically alive. So long as "the lights are on but nobody's home", the children are fine. They're not cloned, they stay put and gestate normally. You REALLY need to bone up on your infomorph theory. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Sylorin Caldari MMZ Laboratories LLC	Posted - 2011.05.31 12:56:00 - [22] All in all, there really haven't been enough studies. A woman should be able to pilot a pod throughout her pregnancy with little physical effect. However, there's no telling what the effects of warp-sickness might be, considering that we tend to go beyond normal human tolerances. The pod and the mother's own body should protect the fetus adequately, but there have been no real studies to show what side effects might crop up. Considering the high-risk nature of pod piloting though I would strongly advise against any woman piloting a pod if she is or thinks she might be pregnant. Also there should be no ill-effects of a child coming to term in a host clone where the primary personality is in another clone. But again, there have been no full studies into this, so I would advise against it. Basically, if you're going to produce a child, that should be your only priority. You can hop back into the pod after you give birth. Why take chances? If you're pregnant and seriously considering piloting a pod or engaging in any risky behavior, then you should seriously reconsider becoming a parent. And remember folks, the best part about kids, is making them. *The opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the opinions of MMZ Labs, LLC.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.31 12:56:00 - [23] If the mother can just let her clone do all the pregnancy jobs in a spare pod, why would she risk losing the babies by flying with them? An inactivated clone is always safe, a pilot in a pod in space isn't. So, there shouldn't be any pregnant pilot, only a normal pilot and a pregnant clone stored somewhere safe! Unless, of cause, the mother enjoys the thrill of risking their babies in a spaceship!
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:11:00 - [24] Edited by: Stitcher on 31/05/2011 13:13:57 Edited by: Stitcher on 31/05/2011 13:12:13 Originally by: Calathea Sata If the mother can just let her clone do all the pregnancy jobs in a spare pod, why would she risk losing the babies by flying with them? An inactivated clone is always safe, a pilot in a pod in space isn't. So, there shouldn't be any pregnant pilot, only a normal pilot and a pregnant clone stored somewhere safe! Which is exactly what I said that Cia did. pay attention! Besides which, you are still a pilot even when you are not piloting. So yes, there can be pregnant pilots. It's just a bad idea for a pregnant pilot to fly in the body that has her babies. It's like a slightly more high-priority version of keeping your implants safe. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:17:00 - [25] Okay, so that proves my point of there is no such thing as a pregnant pilot to begin with, thus answering OP's questions. Problem solved. It feels good.
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:19:00 - [26] Originally by: Calathea Sata Okay, so that proves my point of there is no such thing as a pregnant pilot to begin with, thus answering OP's questions. Problem solved. It feels good. A pilot is still a pilot even when they are not actually flying in the pod. and they COULD fly in the pod - Cia did, during the early stages of the pregnancy - it just puts the baby at risk of dying in the event of pod destruction and is therefore not a good idea. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:24:00 - [27] Well, you could, but, why? I mean, a jump clone is even free of charge...
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:26:00 - [28] Neuroplasticity, remember? You can only clone-jump a finite number of times a day without risking irreversible brain damage. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.05.31 13:34:00 - [29] Then she must be a very busy mother.
Hori To Masuat'aa Matari	Posted - 2011.05.31 16:10:00 - [30] Originally by: Kazzzi The Imperial Acadamy did not teach sex ed. What does sex have to do with babies? Please explain. Don't be Zippy.
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.05.31 16:21:00 - [31] Edited by: Raze Valadeus on 31/05/2011 16:21:55 Originally by: Calathea Sata If the mother can just let her clone do all the pregnancy jobs in a spare pod, why would she risk losing the babies by flying with them? An inactivated clone is always safe, a pilot in a pod in space isn't. So, there shouldn't be any pregnant pilot, only a normal pilot and a pregnant clone stored somewhere safe! Unless, of cause, the mother enjoys the thrill of risking their babies in a spaceship! Some would suggest that there is a certain intimacy and attachment that develops from actually carrying the baby. Such people would also argue that jumping to a clone and leaving the baby to develop in an inactive clone denies the mother this attachment and may even affect the mental health of the baby, as there is some research suggesting that the mental and physical health of a child is dependent on the hormonal development of the mother (which would not take place on an inactive clone.) Some mothers put being a mother as a higher priority than being in space and would rather tend to the care, needs and carrying of their child (born and unborn) before their need to be in space. This does not mean the mother is no longer a pilot. It just means the mother is a pilot currently grounded. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Hori To Masuat'aa Matari	Posted - 2011.05.31 16:31:00 - [32] honestly, consult a professional, not capsuleers. Don't be Zippy.
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.05.31 16:33:00 - [33] Originally by: Hori To honestly, consult a professional, not capsuleers. Best advice ever. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Ava Starfire Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2011.05.31 16:41:00 - [34] I have not had any children yet, but if and when that day comes, my first priority will be to the safety of my child, not my flight time. If anyone really needs to debate this, they probably shouldnt be allowed to have children in the first place.
Katrin Ameri Amarr	Posted - 2011.05.31 16:42:00 - [35] Edited by: Katrin Ameri on 31/05/2011 16:42:46 Originally by: Niques Saji Leutre My god man, dont Amarrians teach their slaves how to speak anymore? Get schooled or get lost. What a poor excuse for a capsuleer. There is only so much information that can be beaten into a slave. Before you ultimately beat them into stupidity. Obviously this one's master was a bit too liberal with the discipline stick.
Crucifire Horns of Steel Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.31 20:16:00 - [36] It was on the news this mroing.
Zoroark Zoura	Posted - 2011.06.02 03:55:00 - [37] wonder how much it costs to watch a good beating in amarr space
Jason Galente Gallente Sentinels Academy Sentinel Federation	Posted - 2011.06.02 04:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Katrin Ameri Edited by: Katrin Ameri on 31/05/2011 16:42:46 Originally by: Niques Saji Leutre My god man, dont Amarrians teach their slaves how to speak anymore? Get schooled or get lost. What a poor excuse for a capsuleer. There is only so much information that can be beaten into a slave. Before you ultimately beat them into stupidity. Obviously this one's master was a bit too liberal with the discipline stick. You just wait. The Amarr will one day pay ten fold for the suffering they've brought to the Minmatar. That's not a threat dear, it's a promise. Your God will punish you. It is written in your own scripture that the Holder's responsibility is to spiritually enlighten the slave, educate him, treat him well. It seems however that you merely use your self-proclaimed righteousness as a poor excuse to enslave others to suit your own greed, and then fail to adhere to God's terms (according to your scripture, again). Do you really think your vanity will go unanswered? I know where I will be when my time comes. What remains to be determined is when I get there.
Sinjin Mokk Khanid Provincial Vanguard Vanguard Imperium	Posted - 2011.06.02 14:31:00 - [39] Edited by: Sinjin Mokk on 02/06/2011 14:31:42 Originally by: Jason Galente You just wait. The Amarr will one day pay ten fold for the suffering they've brought to the Minmatar. That's not a threat dear, it's a promise. Your God will punish you. It is written in your own scripture that the Holder's responsibility is to spiritually enlighten the slave, educate him, treat him well. It seems however that you merely use your self-proclaimed righteousness as a poor excuse to enslave others to suit your own greed, and then fail to adhere to God's terms (according to your scripture, again). Do you really think your vanity will go unanswered? Really now. Must we have yet another derailment so that someone can whine about slavery? I think, Mr. Galente, you should be more concerned about the suffering the Empire brings to your Federation. Have you noticed that the Minmatar don't care a jot about Gallente slaves? What are your priorities? Despite our political differences, I admit that I agree wholeheartedly with Ava and Hori. If you're going to have a child, seek professional help and make being a parent your only priority. New Tales of the Dark Amarr
EnslaverOfMinmatar Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.02 19:18:00 - [40] You get an enlarged frozen female corpse. uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
Tigerfish Torpedo Underworld Protection Agency Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.03 08:15:00 - [41] Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar You get an enlarged frozen female corpse. That like 'Buy one, get one free'? Tigerfish.
Stitcher Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.03 12:16:00 - [42] Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar You get an enlarged frozen female corpse. That like 'Buy one, get one free'? Tigerfish. Now that is sick and disgusting. - - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Che Biko Humanitarian Communists	Posted - 2011.06.04 18:23:00 - [43] Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar You get an enlarged frozen female corpse. That like 'Buy one, get one free'?
Shalee Lianne Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.05 08:07:00 - [44] I would like to hear pilot Mitara Newelle's opinion on this matter...

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