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ROAR Exodus
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:14:00 -
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When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong.
That is not what CCP intended.
Because nothing is being done about it leads me to believe CCP is somehow involved.
Perhaps CCP is a client of the mafia that will apparently own all of EVE, before turning on themselves.
EVE is a Monster and will self destruct, taking down the people who love the brilliance of EVE as it was, with it.
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Carcosa Hali
True Slave Foundations
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:16:00 -
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you stuff, I can haz? ------------------------------- This Bitter Earth.. What fruit it bears.. |
Nykky Syxx
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:21:00 -
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No, just the thousand people you are talking about are really bad at this game.
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Nex Prenuncius
Amarr Futue te ipsum
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:23:00 -
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I hope the RMT Russians strangle 0.0 because the RMT trade is what has broken this game. The more RMT ends up being the deciding factor in PvP the more people will realize just how broken this game is and force CCP to address this issue or else risk losing tons of accounts from legit of players.
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Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: ROAR Exodus When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong.
That is not what CCP intended.
Because nothing is being done about it leads me to believe CCP is somehow involved.
Perhaps CCP is a client of the mafia that will apparently own all of EVE, before turning on themselves.
EVE is a Monster and will self destruct, taking down the people who love the brilliance of EVE as it was, with it.
I believe they call it strategic withdrawl... unless you had a fleet that looked like this:
http://imageshack.us/f/607/20110601000341.jpg/ -------
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ROAR Exodus
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:29:00 -
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Exactly.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: ROAR Exodus When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong.
That is not what CCP intended.
Because nothing is being done about it leads me to believe CCP is somehow involved.
Perhaps CCP is a client of the mafia that will apparently own all of EVE, before turning on themselves.
EVE is a Monster and will self destruct, taking down the people who love the brilliance of EVE as it was, with it.
Your mafia conspiracy lunacy is make you sound like a crack pot.
Generally speaking, thousands of people standing up to defend against thousands of attackers does not guarentee success.. and if those defenders are surprised and lack intel the deck is stacked against them. I can't see blaming CCP is going to help your position.
Regroup, come up with a plan, or die and disband. Those are the option given in Eve over and over.
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ROAR Exodus
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:35:00 -
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Supercariers in the largest mass wins. these are funded by illeagal means in a business venture. set against people that play the game not work at it. No contest.
Theres plenty Smarts attempting to defeat it, No matter how you slice it, the math doesent work.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:44:00 -
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The NC had control over most of the north for a very long time, with plenty of Technetium moons which brought in huge streams of ISK which could have bought HUNDREDS of supercap ships to assist in the defense just from the income in the past half year, not to speak of previously available supercaps. Where were those hundreds of possible supercaps for the defense team, might I ask ? _
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ROAR Exodus
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:48:00 -
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Are you asking for speculation based on speculation? sorry cant ablige.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 02/06/2011 01:55:21
Gee, let's throw accusations of botting, RMT and frak knows what else ruining the game, doom and gloom and end of the world and all that jazz, that's so much more believable, and far less verifiable, isn't it ? I mean, we couldn't possibly entertain the notion that some groups of people might simply manage better than others, could we ? Wait, wasn't the big scandal a few months ago that the NC is all so powerful and that they got dev assistance back when tech was poised to become so valuable ? And that nobody could ever possibly dethrone them, and that the game would be forever ruined because of that ? My, how short our memories must be... and how convenient that is sometimes... _
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: ROAR Exodus When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong.
That is not what CCP intended.
Because nothing is being done about it leads me to believe CCP is somehow involved.
No. That is not the case. Just because a large portion of a defending alliance/coalition decided to throw down their weapons in the face of total annihilation it doesn't mean that CCP has failed. It means that the retreating alliance and its leadership has failed. They either didn't have enough people to back them up or they somehow suffered a mismanagement.
If you are right, then I guess CCP failed us over and over again as alliances like Band of Brothers and Goonswarm rose and fell (as it was expected anyways).
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Sandwich PvP
Furian Necromongers
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: ROAR Exodus Supercariers in the largest mass wins. these are funded by illeagal means in a business venture. set against people that play the game not work at it. No contest.
Theres plenty Smarts attempting to defeat it, No matter how you slice it, the math doesent work.
LOL, The NC tears are threatening to drown us all!!!!
Noob, NC had more than enough Supers to match this fleet, they simply didn't have the motivated pilots, or the balls.
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BlueMajere
Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: BlueMajere on 02/06/2011 02:12:53
Originally by: ROAR Exodus Supercariers in the largest mass wins. these are funded by illeagal means in a business venture. set against people that play the game not work at it. No contest.
Theres plenty Smarts attempting to defeat it, No matter how you slice it, the math doesent work.
the people that made you stand down last night did not illegally acquire their supers, we bought them from the NC. you are just another NC number on the wall who thinks he knows what he is talking about when it comes to this game.
you are a moron.
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Nex Prenuncius
Amarr Futue te ipsum
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Nex Prenuncius on 02/06/2011 02:16:06
Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 02/06/2011 01:58:23
Gee, let's throw accusations of botting, RMT and frak knows what else ruining the game, doom and gloom and end of the world and all that jazz, that's so much more believable, and far less verifiable, isn't it ? I mean, we couldn't possibly entertain the notion that some groups of people might simply manage better than others, could we ? Wait, wasn't the big scandal a few months ago that the NC is all so powerful and that they got dev assistance back when tech was poised to become so valuable ? And that nobody could ever possibly dethrone them, and that the game would be forever ruined because of that ? My, how short our memories must be... and how convenient that is sometimes... Why, yes, of course if big alliance X has failed, it must have been sabotage ! No, wait, they cheated before and now they can't anymore! No, the enemy is now cheating ! No, the enemy was helped by devs ! Pfft, tinfoilhattery, it was all a single massive botnet controlled by a single person and they got bored ! Nobody in power could ever lose it otherwise, amirite ?
The Russians bot and RMT this isn't a secret unless you're a complete noob to eve and its politics.
Of course the Russians aren't the only ones who bot and in fact many alliances (including the NC) have allowed botting to go on because in the end ISK/RMT talks and everything else walks. Hence this is why EVE is broken and why we've seen the huge proliferation of super cap blobs and huge formation of expensive ships being fielded by guys like PL who take isk from these botting empires.
Once the NC loses their holding I'd suggest those persons in the NC who hate botting that they do themselves a big favor and not be tied down to holding space for a long time and instead commit themselves to basically grief'ing the botter empires to no end. That is probably the best course of action short of simply canceling their accounts.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 02/06/2011 02:23:15
Right, because botting is the only way to make any decent amounts of ISK, and an alliance that uses no bots on an alliance-wide funding scale could ever compete, and CCP neeeever removes any bots whatsoever, and without bots we so toootally wouldn't have supercap blobs at all... amirite ? Also, if alliance X both bots and RMTs, wouldn't that mean they are leftover with LESS ISK than if they simply botted ? And wouldn't that mean they're probably actually weaker than without RMT ? Or do you mean they're massively BUYING ISK at below PLEX-rates from other botters ? And if botting is so widespread in pretty much any alliance...
You know what, screw it. Tinfoilhat away. Whatever lets you sleep at night better.
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Rolare
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.02 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: Rolare on 02/06/2011 03:05:43 Edited by: Rolare on 02/06/2011 03:05:20 Why in God's name are all these "OMG RMT BOT IN ALLIANCE OH NOES WE'RE DOOMED EVE IS DOOMED EVERYTHING IS DOOMED" popping up?
I mean, it ain't weird with them appearing now and then but this is just plain annoying... look at the damn Bot War thread will ya? If anything, that thread is far more info-giving and non-lunatic like these threads.
So far... this public secret... there's not much proof given. Sure tidbits appear here and there that X Alliance does oh noes, or that Y CEO has done this and that but... never much concrete stuff.
All I see are people saying "OMG RMT BOTTING OH NOES" and not much else. Also, sounds like A) Your fleet was ****ed from the beginning, B) Your fleet sucks, C) The enemy fleet is good, D) Your leadership sucks.
Or y'know... maybe they're cutting losses because this particular fight wasn't winnable. Leeroy Jenkins fights are only fun if you're not gonna lose much (or is just a relaxed fella who doesn't mind losing).
EDIT: My post looks really bad >,>
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Checkin theprices
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Posted - 2011.06.02 03:17:00 -
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I'm sorry, I'm confused.
Are the DRF RMT selling ISK? Or using it to fund a gigantic supercap fleet? Or using it to buy PL's services?
It's not like they have any Tech moons...... where's all of NC's isk?
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Ron Bacardi
SniggWaffe FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.02 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 02/06/2011 03:43:52 Edited by: Ron Bacardi on 02/06/2011 03:43:32
Originally by: Rolare Edited by: Rolare on 02/06/2011 03:05:43 Edited by: Rolare on 02/06/2011 03:05:20 Why in God's name are all these "OMG RMT BOT IN ALLIANCE OH NOES WE'RE DOOMED EVE IS DOOMED EVERYTHING IS DOOMED" popping up?
That's because the NC is frantically trying to find a suitable scapegoat to preserve their own self worth.
You see, the NC aren't very good at this game.
Unfortunately for them, their argument doesn't hold much weight as they have more members and more ISK than any other group in-game. The best space, the majority of the tech moons, and no successful invasions for years (until recently); but quite simply, bad, at, eve.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.02 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Valari Nala Zena on 02/06/2011 04:21:18 People win, people lose, what does it matter, people will just reform somewhere else. Sov warfare is just one hypocrite bad mouthing another in the hope to get their drama fix. You don't even need a subscription to eve for that, just go read kugu.com
If your facing 50+ supers, it won't matter how many numbers and what ships you bring, your going to lose unless you can closely match the same amount of supers.
What is wrong with this game?
When facing supers in a big war, anyone flying anything else than supers might as well go to battle in their pod. Doesn't matter how many people you got, every single pilot is worthless if you can't match supers.
Best solution i can think of, give them just slightly more hp than a carrier or something.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 02/06/2011 05:31:20 nevermind _
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Skydell
Caldari Morrigna Order
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Posted - 2011.06.02 05:53:00 -
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You all fail to see the point.
One of the PL titan pilots cleared it up in local, at that battle. "LOL, We lost aor Sov and look how it turned out for us"?
Super Caps arent designed to hold Sov, they are designed to take it. Sov is about an immunity beacon that can be alpha blitzed and there isnt jack **** you can do about it. Pitting Super cap fleet to super cap fleet doesnt save your space, it crashes the node.
Untill they fix tech moons, Sov will be Trading spaces online. |
Zoroa Aulx-Gao
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Posted - 2011.06.02 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: ROAR Exodus When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong.
That is not what CCP intended.
Was EVE not intended to be a cold/dark/harsh environment, were your actions can lead to huge success or crushing failure and defeat?
If it was not possible through bad decisions to lead yourself and others into an un-winnable situation then I think EVE would be a lot worse off.
Working as intended IMO.
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AncientLord
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Posted - 2011.06.02 08:57:00 -
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As Akita mentioned ..... with the HUGE ammount of ISK NC produced in last 3 years when they did almost never fought a war, they should have hundreds and hundreds of supers, 2 on every pilot. Its just you dont have balls to use them, so live with it, you failed ...
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 08:59:00 -
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So one powerblock is defeated by another powerblock with bigger and better guns? And this is the game's fault? --- There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
Ioci
Gallente Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2011.06.02 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: AncientLord As Akita mentioned ..... with the HUGE ammount of ISK NC produced in last 3 years when they did almost never fought a war, they should have hundreds and hundreds of supers, 2 on every pilot. Its just you dont have balls to use them, so live with it, you failed ...
Kinda, sorta. Of course if you think 200 nomadic PL super caps are destructive, wait untill the 1000 nomadic NC super caps burn New Eden. Then the OMFG who knows how many nomadic Goon and -A- super fleets burn new Eden.
Lots of blow stuff up in EVE. Working as intended. |
Irulan Corinno
Caldari 714th SQN - Snowflakes
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Posted - 2011.06.02 09:06:00 -
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With the introduction of capitals and supercapitals CCP increased the potential of the individual over the strength of numbers. It's a bit the same as releasing tier 50 (or whatever) gear in other games, which effectually has the consequence that the few who have it can domninate many others.
So yes, indirectly CCP did want this to happen by enabling it.
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retro123
Resilience. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.02 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: retro123 on 02/06/2011 09:15:11 You know i have been hearing complants all over the place about the dreaded super cap blob that no one can do anything against...bottom line is there is no one else to blame except yourselves,you guys should of built and had ur own super cap blob instead of ur members selling em to who ever to fill their own pockets,so no one else to blame except your own people..oh and thanks for the new space :-) |
Noa Fuyu
Amarr Resilience. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.02 09:20:00 -
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Yeah I have a good laugh every time I see an obvious NC member complaining about being blobbed and too many caps. Didn't hear you crying a year ago did we? You were the ones saying come up with the strategies and its part of the game etc etc. What goes around comes around, its part of the game, guess you better come up with some strategies eh? -------------------------- I would throw a hundred ships into the void just to see you crushed. |
ZenSun
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.02 09:42:00 -
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Edited by: ZenSun on 02/06/2011 09:43:14 EvE is a harsh, vicious and unforgiving game which does not cater for the people that cannot adapt to changes or succumb to getting a knee to face whilst bending over and getting spanked... If you expect candy canes and fluffy chocolate bears then get out!
Also, NC detected.
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Calathea Sata
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.02 10:00:00 -
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It is not the first day EVE is broken, EVE IS broken because CCP NEVER FIXED THE GAME!
EVE beta forever, bugs, inbalance, lags, freezes, WTFBBQdeaths "we can't reimburse because it's client side problem henec we have no logs" everythere.
EVE never left beta, and it will not.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.02 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Calathea Sata It is not the first day EVE is broken, EVE IS broken because CCP NEVER FIXED THE GAME!
EVE beta forever, bugs, inbalance, lags, freezes, WTFBBQdeaths "we can't reimburse because it's client side problem henec we have no logs" everythere.
EVE never left beta, and it will not.
It actually feels like a duct tape and pins game, so I guess CCP's Minmatar ..
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Vaju Katru
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Posted - 2011.06.02 10:07:00 -
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Cry more NC carebear noob.
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2011.06.02 10:32:00 -
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It shouldnt take 1000 active fleet pilots to initiate conflict with 1% of success.
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War Khan
Caldari Resilience. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.02 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: War Khan on 02/06/2011 10:34:59 NC tears! \o/
when you were wining over IT with that "tactic" you are whining about now the game was not broken, right?
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Florestan Bronstein
draketrain Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.02 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 02/06/2011 11:46:24
Originally by: Akita T Gee, let's throw accusations of botting, RMT and frak knows what else ruining the game, doom and gloom and end of the world and all that jazz, that's so much more believable, and far less verifiable, isn't it ?
You miss that some of the russians have publicly admitted to using (sanctioned) RMT to build up their supercap fleet.
And - whoever might be responsible for it - DDOSing other alliances' services and websites requires some investment to pull off and incurs a quite significant RL cost on the targets (exceeded traffic caps, necessity to buy protection services, ...). It seems very unlikely that a random empire pubbie who has just lost his Hulk decides to take such drastic measures... I'd call those parts of the metagame where you overstep RL legal boundaries "cheating" but you may disagree on that point...
Botting is something everybody can observe and that recruiting bots is good business for any corp or alliance with some space to spare is no secret either... Additional tax income but none of the risk associated with running bots yourself or laundering ISK? I'd recruit bots every day...
IMO your posts in this thread are uniformed rubbish - there is almost no debate that the DRF does what it is frequently accused of. The debate usually revolves around the NC being no bit better than that (while claiming the moral high ground).
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Myfanwy Heimdal
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Posted - 2011.06.02 11:44:00 -
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When I read posts like the Original Poster's I don't wonder why these attacks fail.
If this sort of whining and crying goes on in his alliance then it's all doomed to be a disaster. Most of the threads that I read on the same theme of "The Russians Are Coming", "The Visigoths are at the city walls", etc., all come down to the same thing.
Lack of organisation and discipline.
Would I want to be part of an alliance in which people moaned and whined as the OP? No. Would I want to be a part of an alliance where it was run in a competant, dispassional and professional manner? Yes.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.02 13:32:00 -
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Thank god for:
Originally by: "CCP Greyscale" Supercaps? >> Yeah, supercarriers in particular just flat-out need a nerf, I think this is obvious to everyone. We'll give plenty of warning, but don't be surprised when it happens Smile
Source
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 02/06/2011 18:22:33
Originally by: Florestan Bronstein You miss that some of the russians have publicly admitted to using (sanctioned) RMT to build up their supercap fleet.
I didn't "miss" that, and neither anything of the following increasingly smug "gotchas" you posted afterwards. If you look at my words in context (namely, a rapid-fire line exchange with ROAR Exodus), it is obvious I merely stated it's easier and less verifiable to throw accusations of foul play than answer why the NC didn't field a decent defense fleet.
HOW their enemies got their funding for their supercap fleet is of a very distant secondary importance. Why THEY didn't have or if they had, why they didn't show up with an even larger supercap fleet was the issue.
What WAS relevant was the fact that "the NC" as a conglomerate had a very large mostly passive income source (Technetium) which went largely uncontested for a long period of time, an income source which could very well make any fringe botter tax income pale in comparison and would amount to huge amounts of RL cash in PLEX equivalents... and that the fleet that ISK could have easily bought, a fleet that could have been several times LARGER than the invading fleet failed to show up on the field. _
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Miilla
Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:19:00 -
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Eve has been broken according to players for 8 years?
Perhaps the players are broken.
Or rather, will be broke, come Incarna.
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Sino Sarn
Sick Tight Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Noa Fuyu Yeah I have a good laugh every time I see an obvious NC member complaining about being blobbed and too many caps. Didn't hear you crying a year ago did we? You were the ones saying come up with the strategies and its part of the game etc etc. What goes around comes around, its part of the game, guess you better come up with some strategies eh?
Originally by: ZenSun Edited by: ZenSun on 02/06/2011 09:43:14 EvE is a harsh, vicious and unforgiving game which does not cater for the people that cannot adapt to changes or succumb to getting a knee to face whilst bending over and getting spanked... If you expect candy canes and fluffy chocolate bears then get out!
Also, NC detected.
I wonder, was your opinion of scap blobs the same a year ago when you left The North for green pastures in Provi? Or might'n it have changed now that you all have finally a blob large enough?
also, inb4 any "blob hating", "NAP hating" eleet peeveepeers with the irony alarm.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.02 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Where were those hundreds of possible supercaps for the defense team, might I ask ?
eBay, they just didn't say anything to the public. So they can bad mouth the Russians all they want right...
Fact is, Akita knows way way way too much about the resources in this game. He is questioning why you didn't field any of the resources you have been gathering over the years. I'm going to flat out accuse you guys of not having it any more because you sold it.
CCP handed you the game with the moon goo changes, then took it away from you with the anom changes (Carebear tears -> killed moral -> disrupted meat shield -> failcascade)
Still BFF? y/n ?
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Myfanwy Heimdal
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Posted - 2011.06.02 19:14:00 -
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Frankly, I blame Hollywood.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.02 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour Akita [...] is questioning why you didn't field any of the resources you have been gathering over the years. I'm going to flat out accuse you guys of not having it any more because you sold it.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.03 00:01:00 -
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Eve would be a better game if they could somehow get rid of RMT. It's been going in in large alliances for a long time. I can understand players not knowing about it, not believing it's happening. But I know CCP is aware of it. Maybe they can't do anything about it, I don't know. What I do know however, is that it makes it a lesser game.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.03 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Bklyn 1 Eve would be a better game if they could somehow get rid of RMT.
That is bordering on the unfeasible, even in games with much stricter rules of inter-player item/currency/other transfers. For EVE, it's not even a dream, it's downright impossible. All you can hope for is catch and punish some people that engage in it, whenever you're sure they're breaking the rules, but EULA-breaking RMT will always be around as long as people give a damn about their EVE characters. And then, there's also always GTC/PLEX. At least it's EULA-ok in one direction only. But mostly in the direction the losers of a fight usually complain about. _
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Ioci
Gallente Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2011.06.03 01:57:00 -
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Nerf Super Carriers?
Just don't taze me Bro!!!
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Panda Name
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.03 02:15:00 -
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actually, NC alt, it was your collective existence that was one of the biggest signs that eve needed some dramatic changes. the fact that you nullbears can't defend yourselves and are thus losing your space is a sign that things are changing for the better. ~loltheNC~
one sad thing though is that with the high sec mission changes, i won't be able to go to motsu and laugh at you all in one masterful stroke, for it will require a trip to various .5 systems. sigh.
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Miso Hawnee
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Posted - 2011.06.03 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: ZenSun Edited by: ZenSun on 02/06/2011 09:43:14 EvE is a harsh, vicious and unforgiving game which does not cater for the people that cannot adapt to changes or succumb to getting a knee to face whilst bending over and getting spanked... If you expect candy canes and fluffy chocolate bears then get out!
Also, NC detected.
Sounds kinky. I like the S & M vibes of this post. Do you think they will sell whips in the Aurum Shop?
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Thelitos
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Posted - 2011.06.03 04:37:00 -
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All I've noticed here in the past few days is while the Russians quietly take over null sec, NC and everyone else comes here whining on the forums accusing them of botting/RMTing (like you aren't doing the same).
If there was an award for "Most whiny community", this forum would win it.
If you don't like the situation, do something about it. Stand up and fight. If there's a lack of assets, obtain them. For god's sake, fight fire with fire if you have to.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
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Posted - 2011.06.03 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Thelitos Edited by: Thelitos on 03/06/2011 04:38:20 All I've noticed here in the past few days is while the Russians quietly take over null sec, NC and everyone else comes here whining on the forums accusing them of botting/RMTing (like you aren't doing the same).
If there was an award for "Most whiny community", this forum would win it.
If you don't like the situation, do something about it. Stand up and fight. If there's a lack of assets, obtain them. For god's sake, fight fire with fire if you have to.
And everyone also tried to blame CCP for all their problems. Cut that sh!t and admit that you are weak and the Russians are simply a new empire that will put EVE in a new era which will eventually die out as well. Honestly though, the game is fine. Stop blaming CCP for everything.
Quite agree.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2011.06.03 10:23:00 -
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Doesn't matter how you put it, tho: Fleets consisting of one type of ship only is pretty f*ed up. Bout time CCP drop a few balance changes on them SCs.
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Caldari Acolyte
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Posted - 2011.06.03 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: Caldari Acolyte on 03/06/2011 10:47:11
Originally by: Thelitos Edited by: Thelitos on 03/06/2011 04:38:20 All I've noticed here in the past few days is while the Russians quietly take over null sec, NC and everyone else comes here whining on the forums accusing them of botting/RMTing (like you aren't doing the same).
If there was an award for "Most whiny community", this forum would win it.
If you don't like the situation, do something about it. Stand up and fight. If there's a lack of assets, obtain them. For god's sake, fight fire with fire if you have to.
And everyone also tried to blame CCP for all their problems. Cut that sh!t and admit that you are weak and the Russians are simply a new empire that will put EVE in a new era which will eventually die out as well. Honestly though, the game is fine. Stop blaming CCP for everything.
Right, stop whining, just set up RMT shops and more bots so you can win, spoken like a true azzhat, seems the ones that are whining dont wanna lose there BOTs, RMT etc.
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Chuc Morris
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Posted - 2011.06.03 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T The NC had control over most of the north for a very long time, with plenty of Technetium moons which brought in huge streams of ISK which could have bought HUNDREDS of supercap ships to assist in the defense just from the income in the past half year, not to speak of previously available supercaps. Where were those hundreds of possible supercaps for the defense team, might I ask ?
Ho the isk is surely in someone's wallet like the top heads but surely not in all members pockets.
The ships, they sold them to make more isk, sold them to those spanking they'r ass now.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.06.03 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Florestan Bronstein
IMO your posts in this thread are uniformed rubbish - there is almost no debate that the DRF does what it is frequently accused of. The debate usually revolves around the NC being no bit better than that (while still claiming the moral high ground).
There has been a mountain of evidence posted about DRF using hunter bot, doubling moon minerals, on these forum and externally, dotmaps, tentonne and elsewhere.
We've seen no evidence the NC doing RMT, all we've seen is the DRF slinging ****.
CCP stand a chance of fighting RMT with income from mining and hunter bots, but how do you find RMT, when the source of ISK is passive from the bottle neck moon goo.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.03 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Llyandrian
There has been a mountain of evidence posted about DRF using hunter bot, doubling moon minerals, on these forum and externally, dotmaps, tentonne and elsewhere.
We've seen no evidence the NC doing RMT, all we've seen is the DRF slinging ****.
the only objective source you site is dotlan, and that is easily explained by game mechanics specific to drone anoms. the way the current conflict is progressing is actually the best and most obviously damning evidence showing that nc *has* been heavily rmt'ing its isk. there is just no doubt left __
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2011.06.03 14:20:00 -
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Botting in EvE is like taking performance enhancing drugs in sports. It's clearly cheating but the prizes are too big for people to resist doing it, it seems.
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Miss Rabblt
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: ROAR Exodus When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong
have you ever heard about Brest Fortress (June 1941 - August 1941)? Those soldiers have fought without hope to win. They died but didn't surrender.
And your thousand people stand down because there is no hope....
Yes. There is something wrong here.
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Rabblt
Originally by: ROAR Exodus When I see a thousand people stand up to fight together to defend territory, as they did last night, and then stand down because thereÆs no hope of successà There something wrong
have you ever heard about Brest Fortress (June 1941 - August 1941)? Those soldiers have fought without hope to win. They died but didn't surrender.
And your thousand people stand down because there is no hope....
Yes. There is something wrong here.
What's wrong is those thousand people need to grow a pair. Better to fight and die than live on your knees no? --- There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Anddeh McNab
What's wrong is those thousand people need to grow a pair. Better to fight and die than live on your knees no?
Or "fight and be sent back to your cloning facility minus some implants and a ship", in this setting.
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Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Anddeh McNab
What's wrong is those thousand people need to grow a pair. Better to fight and die than live on your knees no?
Or "fight and be sent back to your cloning facility minus some implants and a ship and accuse everyone of RMT", in this setting.
Fixed but otherwise yes. --- There are two sides to the EVE community; those that scream for change and those that scream against it. Often they are the same person. |
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