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Amkzul
The Logrus Initiative
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:17:00 -
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I rarely come here and am sure it has already been discussed to death but it is the reason I intend to quit playing for the 8768737 time. The fact is I like to solo ( i know it is an mmo but i lack the time for sof or other such time consuming corp activities.) but there is no content for me once I have amassed my fortune. I currently have my dream ship, a pile of other ships, my bad ass top of the line implants and even officer mods sitting and collecting dust. I mean the only reason i log in is to spin my ship and ensure that i have my skills being trained.
My simple suggestion to get me to play. Create a reward system for playing that gives us SP, you did it with DUST now do it with Eve.
Point is money is fine but when you have everything you want, why log in?
PS, you can't have my stuff. (I will likely be back, over and over and over again) |

HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:22:00 -
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In b4 tippia |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
727
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:26:00 -
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If we helped you out in this thread, that would be teamwork, which you are opposed to. I don't know what to do. I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2093
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:26:00 -
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Look at this picture
Zoom in. This picture is 100000 lightyears across and contains around 500 trillion stars. That is the same number of times I want to say no to your SP idea.
Secondly, I work 80 hours a week and find time for my corp, you don't get much more casual than me. Also go pvp. |

Caroline Cosmos
Perkone Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:27:00 -
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I suppose you should probably be playing a solo game instead of a multiplayer one eh? |

Pipa Porto
887
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:36:00 -
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Amkzul wrote:Create a reward system for playing that gives us SP, you did it with DUST now do it with Eve.
Thanks, but I play EVE because I don't want the normal MMO advancement grind. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone Caldari State
693
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Posted - 2012.09.09 04:54:00 -
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Amkzul wrote:I rarely come here and am sure it has already been discussed to death but it is the reason I intend to quit playing for the 8768737 time. The fact is I like to solo ( i know it is an mmo but i lack the time for sof or other such time consuming corp activities.) but there is no content for me once I have amassed my fortune. I currently have my dream ship, a pile of other ships, my bad ass top of the line implants and even officer mods sitting and collecting dust. I mean the only reason i log in is to spin my ship and ensure that i have my skills being trained.
My simple suggestion to get me to play. Create a reward system for playing that gives us SP, you did it with DUST now do it with Eve.
Point is money is fine but when you have everything you want, why log in?
PS, you can't have my stuff. (I will likely be back, over and over and over again)
Edit: to the new players I am not quitting because the game is bad, it is truly amazing but limited to solo players.
there must be something rewarding in EvE already,bc you keep coming back over and over and over again If Dust has social areas ,then vanishing the blog is not an CCP decision ,but an all exclusive Sony decision |

Amkzul
The Logrus Initiative
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Posted - 2012.09.09 06:46:00 -
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@baltec, I cant imagine playing this game working 80 hours a week, maintaining a relationship, and actually leaving the house to have fun. Impressive, that said though when I say I don't have time for a corp it is because I like to be able to stand up and walk away from my PC when ever I want without some FC bitching up a storm. Life happens ect ect ect.
Anyway that out of the way and this also addresses Pipa. If I am playing a game and I have achieved all my personal goals save the one that will take years and years and years of paying a sub and not actually playing why would I or the average player want to log in without an incentive beyond making money that does not actually affect the player advancement. Sure I could go out and pvp and lose everything I own but why would i waste my time when the style of pvp is gate ganks or blobs (this can be solved with a decent corp but w/e)
Point is I am not saying eliminate the hourly gain but if I am doing a mission and I want to convert my LP to SP why should that be such a bad thing? It is actual incentive to log in rather than ship spin.
@Oldbut, I really just came back this time for the Dust beta key but previously I always had friends insist I play and I had huge amounts of fun in that particular corp but since that point I have had huge issues finding a corp that works for me. Like I said the game is fun but only to a point if you are solo. |

Sturmwolke
275
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Posted - 2012.09.09 06:53:00 -
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Two things : - If you don't have time to play, don't. Which is more important? - SP abuse to gain ingame advantage. You haven't thought (or choose to ignore) the far reaching repercussions before posting this did you?
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
814
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Posted - 2012.09.09 07:02:00 -
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The first two and a half years I played eve I was working 14 hours a day 6 days a week. On my one day off I normally got about 2 hours of play.
But I liked this because I new I was advancing while I worked. I did not have the problem like you do with most MMOs that some snotty teenager with no life can do what you can in a year, in a single day.
When my life changed I had a lot of SP but not much isk and frankly it was good.
They should never alter that mechanic it it what makes EvE, EvE.
Eve the game for people who work. (Oh and have patience.) Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Amkzul
The Logrus Initiative
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Posted - 2012.09.09 07:02:00 -
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Sturmwolke wrote:Two things : - If you don't have time to play, don't. Which is more important? - SP abuse to gain ingame advantage. You haven't thought (or choose to ignore) the far reaching repercussions before posting this did you?
If the Gm's do their job they can stop it quick enough; not like it does not happen with ISK. Any time you introduce an element like that there is always the risk of abuse, personally though I do not want to have to wait another few years before I have perfect battleship and lower skills. If there was a way to boost it by being in game and doing a mission here and there I would be ecstatic.... and maybe even play too much. So, yes believe me I have thought about it but yes I do choose to ignore the negative aspects of mission bots.
As far as your other comment that is part of the problem I choose life and leave those corps, it is not as though I do not have vast hours to play I just choose to play casually to the point where I like to walk away mid mission and make dinner or watch a movie with my gf. This makes it hard to accomplish a lot on the cooperate scale. |

Herr Hammer Draken
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
103
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Posted - 2012.09.09 07:05:00 -
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Amkzul wrote:I rarely come here and am sure it has already been discussed to death but it is the reason I intend to quit playing for the 8768737 time. The fact is I like to solo ( i know it is an mmo but i lack the time for sof or other such time consuming corp activities.) but there is no content for me once I have amassed my fortune. I currently have my dream ship, a pile of other ships, my bad ass top of the line implants and even officer mods sitting and collecting dust. I mean the only reason i log in is to spin my ship and ensure that i have my skills being trained.
My simple suggestion to get me to play. Create a reward system for playing that gives us SP, you did it with DUST now do it with Eve.
Point is money is fine but when you have everything you want, why log in?
PS, you can't have my stuff. (I will likely be back, over and over and over again)
Edit: to the new players I am not quitting because the game is bad, it is truly amazing but limited to solo players.
I do not think the game is that limited to solo players. I think your goal is the limiting factor. I see it a lot with new players. I want to fly a BS they say. They work hard and get the BS. Then what? They got their goal and nothing left. Set your goal higher. Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet" |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1739
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Posted - 2012.09.09 07:21:00 -
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The OP is saying that he needs CCP to implement a system that appeals to his lower instincts, making him an addict toward the reward system so he has to log in regularly go get a fix.
You, OP, are an idiot for asking for making you even more of a robot than you already are. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1739
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Posted - 2012.09.09 07:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Look at this pictureZoom in. This picture is 100000 lightyears across and contains around 500 billion stars. That is the same number of times I want to say no to your SP idea. Secondly, I work 80 hours a week and find time for my corp, you don't get much more casual than me. Also go pvp. This, sir, is awesome ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |

Amkzul
The Logrus Initiative
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Posted - 2012.09.09 07:44:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:The OP is saying that he needs CCP to implement a system that appeals to his lower instincts, making him an addict toward the reward system so he has to log in regularly go get a fix.
You, OP, are an idiot for asking for making you even more of a robot than you already are.
Ahem, do me a favor and state how exactly this makes me an idiot for wanting a reward to log into a game? If the player is not being rewarded then he typically moves on to another game (dust for now). I am not being rewarded anymore because my goals are not achievable without a time machine. I like the idea of having a character with a perfect skill set which will NEVER happen unless they stop expanding the game (which would kill it for everyone else and still take aloooot of years).
So, being that I am a robot though I would really like an logical response over a troll response >_>. Explain to me why it is negative.
Positive: Players have a reason to log in beyond pvp. This appeals to the carebears and those who actually want to achieve a decent skill set. Higher population of active players, I personally know a handful of players that log in to check skills then log off. More money and material in the system, creating a more booming market and even pvp incentive due to the extra money and skills that level the playing field.
Negative: Possible bot abuse. Pisses off the null sec folks that do not like to grind. Pisses off lazy people. As one person mentioned snooty teens with no life skilling up and pawning him.
Personally I can deal with the negatives, it is not as if i am suggesting a server wipe and then this but the fact is a player that has been here from the beginning will pawn you 99% of the time just based on his perfect character sheet and even is said snooty teen levels up to be your equal in that aspect your years of pvp exp should be able to handle it. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2097
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:00:00 -
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Amkzul wrote:@baltec, I cant imagine playing this game working 80 hours a week, maintaining a relationship, and actually leaving the house to have fun. Impressive, that said though when I say I don't have time for a corp it is because I like to be able to stand up and walk away from my PC when ever I want without some FC bitching up a storm. Life happens ect ect ect.
I am forever having to leave fleet to go work or sleep for work or go be a family taxi ect. There are corps and alliances out there who will let you do this. I have become leagondary for piloting my megathron across the galaxy back home. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2097
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:15:00 -
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Amkzul wrote:Explain to me why it is negative.
As a hard working player I would be at a distinct disadvantage in skill training then most people who play this game. The wonderful thing about EVE is that I skill up just as fast as little joe who plays 14 hours a day. |

Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
328
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:20:00 -
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Have you tried Progress Quest?
Grinding is not a game mechanic. It is a abomination created by the soul sucking developers of video games to keep you addicted and slogging onto a boring treadmill and keep paying them.
Your theory that "a player that has been here from the beginning will pawn you 99% of the time just based on his perfect character sheet and even is said snooty teen levels up to be your equal in that aspect your years of pvp exp should be able to handle it. "
That is insanely wrong. I've been "pawning" people who have been playing since beta with my 2009+ characters for years. Training has dramatically diminishing returns and ship fittings and tactics play a far more important role than skill training. I've crushed full tech 2 fits with cruiser 3 and tech 1 drones.
Open your mind, stop grinding and play the game. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
876
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:52:00 -
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OP... use that fortune you allegedly amassed to start PvPing. That'll keep you busy indefinitely.
Try RvB for quick duals and such. Join a *chill* FW corp for more organized and "unpredictable" action.
Neither require too much time or investment or do much more than bring a ship. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |

Weiz'mir
Valeureux
0
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:56:00 -
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Delete |

Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
176
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Posted - 2012.09.09 09:59:00 -
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Amkzul wrote:I rarely come here and am sure it has already been discussed to death but it is the reason I intend to quit playing for the 8768737 time. The fact is I like to solo ( i know it is an mmo but i lack the time for sof or other such time consuming corp activities.) but there is no content for me once I have amassed my fortune. I currently have my dream ship, a pile of other ships, my bad ass top of the line implants and even officer mods sitting and collecting dust. I mean the only reason i log in is to spin my ship and ensure that i have my skills being trained.
My simple suggestion to get me to play. Create a reward system for playing that gives us SP, you did it with DUST now do it with Eve.
Point is money is fine but when you have everything you want, why log in?
PS, you can't have my stuff. (I will likely be back, over and over and over again)
Edit: to the new players I am not quitting because the game is bad, it is truly amazing but limited to solo players.
Doing the same after the month is up, for me to many hoops to jump through for pvp and character development speed is from the good ol "keep em playing" days of a decade ago. Maybe I just don't have time for an mmo period though, might stick to some quick pvp in gw2 or shooters for now. Will be back likely as well, really enjoy the overall atmosphere in this game.
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Weiz'mir
Valeureux
0
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Posted - 2012.09.09 10:03:00 -
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Anything that let new players believe they could in a way or an other catch up older players SP should be considered.
The OP suggestion may be a good idea for players under 20 or 50 M SP. At this level, anyway, players begin to realize that SP are not that important. But under this level, such a mechanic may help to keep new players in the game enough time to be definitively caught.
My 2 cents. |

Cede Forster
54
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Posted - 2012.09.09 10:24:00 -
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it seems like i am missing something here?
you have everything you want, which is why you have no motivation to play therefore you should be able to do something to gain SP faster
and getting more SP will motivate you to play because ... yea, why will getting more SP a motivation to play if you have everything you want already?
Maybe this is just not the right game for you, maybe you should look for something with "Achievements Points"
also, if you want to get SP reward for doing something, you can rename it to EXP and be like any other game? |

baltec1
Bat Country
2098
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Posted - 2012.09.09 10:27:00 -
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Cede Forster wrote:
also, if you want to get SP reward for doing something, you can rename it to EXP and be like any other game?
Thats the problem. The OP is so used to having content spoon fed to him in the other MMOs (the EP grind for example) that he has no idea what to do in a game that gives you total freedom to set your own goals. |
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