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Headerman
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Posted - 2011.06.09 11:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Zakarazor
As we all know Motherships(Supercarriers) are a bit of a problem ATM.
No, they're not.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.09 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia
Nerfing the ships themselves will not help. The problem, as already stated, is that ISK is too easy to come by in volume hence loosing an SC is not the big deal CCP planned it to be and as a result they're used like a BS.
Solution: nerf income; stop the bots; balance the economy such that an SC is 'expensive'.
... do you even own a SC?
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
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Posted - 2011.06.10 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia
Originally by: Headerman
Originally by: Wacktopia
Nerfing the ships themselves will not help. The problem, as already stated, is that ISK is too easy to come by in volume hence loosing an SC is not the big deal CCP planned it to be and as a result they're used like a BS.
Solution: nerf income; stop the bots; balance the economy such that an SC is 'expensive'.
... do you even own a SC?
...do I need one to post in a SC failnerf thread?
Yes you do.
I for one own three, hence my many posts in this thread.
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Headerman
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Posted - 2011.06.10 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kunming
Even if 'nerfed' SCs wouldnt be able to hurt sub-cap ships, a sub-cap fleet of equal proportions doesnt have the DMG capabilities to hurt SCs either.. this is where the real problem is IMO.
In the end you need a SC fleet of your own to inflict dmg, what we really need is a sort of heavy bomber (T2 tier2 BC maybe) that can only hurt things with the signature radius of capital ships. Only then can we talk about tactical warfare.
Before anyone cries about the cost of their solo-pwn-mobile, consider that a couple frigs, which cost less than 10mils can easily kill a BS, which costs several 100mils, this lack of balance (or counter to SCs) is what makes the SCs overpowered and only countered with equal/higher number of SCs.
On the other side though, i do remember Atlas losing a Nyx to some PL BSs in very quick order 9 months ago or so.
SCs are fleet ships through and through. They are far more of a fleet ship than normal carriers or titans. You need alot of them to do anything reliably or they will get picked off easily. And considering their use to date, nearly everyone who has fought with or against them has been done so with careful planning, balls and a bit of luck.
They can certainly be taken down, but it takes a brave FC to face off against them.
Don;t forget though, the frigs Vs BS argument rarely happens in open space, it usually happens on a station or a gate. The BS has options there. For SCs, its options are other SCs.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
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Posted - 2011.06.11 11:44:00 -
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course you can beat SCs with sub caps, it just takes a fair number of them and a decent amount of DPS
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