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Posted - 2011.06.07 01:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Veimo Lailara
So now a planetary frigate cost as much as a tier 3 Battleship? ^^
Blame the botters for making minerals so cheapà 
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Posted - 2011.06.07 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced
Every man and his dog has an xbox
PS3......... not so much
Mehà Last I saw any numbers, the 360 had 6% more units out there than the PS3 (53M vs. 50). So if ever man and his dog has an xbox, every woman and her cat has a ps3.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced
Every man and his dog has an xbox
PS3......... not so much
Mehà Last I saw any numbers, the 360 had 6% more units out there than the PS3 (53M vs. 50). So if ever man and his dog has an xbox, every woman and her cat has a ps3.
hehehe
Actually, those numbers should probably be switched around ù I seem to recall that there are more women than men around, and more cats than there are dogs.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tinwe Linto
Where are those numbers coming from? Are they worldwide statistics or valid for a specific country?
Worldwide, I think. But yes, there are regional differences ù half the 360 userbase is in the US, and a quarter in the EU, whereas the PS3 is more popular than the 360 in Europe (and certainly in Japan). Overall, the PS3 has a much broader distribution
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Demographics for the game would indicate as much-the 360, being less expensive, would appeal more to people with jobs, whereas the initially incredibly expensive PS3 would appeal to people who get things from mommy and daddy (see WoW).
Riiightà if mommy and daddy can afford the PS3, then it's because they have jobs, so that's somewhat disingenuous. Hell, that was (partly) why I bought a PS3: because I had a job and therefore could afford it.
In fact, if we're going to use that kind of logic, I'd say the opposite is the case: 360s for the kids, because they're already a burden and their parent's can't afford any more ù PS3s for the young professional without a money-sink and therefore a nice chunk of disposable income. 
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Posted - 2011.06.07 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Claudia Voltaire
CCP have stated many times that their aiming for a new market with dust.
X+ pages of you moaning about it means nothing, you're not the target audience.
àin fact, they were looking for the diametrically opposed player.
(Yes, I think I have almost every second of that video bookmarked by nowà :P)
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Posted - 2011.06.07 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tinwe Linto
I bought my own 360, and I see no reason to buy my own PS3; I live in the US, and I have no interest in a system that A) can't keep my information secure, B) has a very limited selection of games I would enjoy, C) costs more than any other system currently available (excluding high-end PC's, which isn't a fair comparison anyway), and D) is not owned by any of my friends, making social gaming, excluding online play (which I'd avoid on the PSN right now anyway), very difficult.
And as a point of comparison: A) neither can Microsoft ù they've had their run-ins as well. B) The PS3 has the selection of games I would enjoy, because it features a wider range of games and genres than the Xbox (btw, watch this episode of Extra Credits if you haven't already ù I think it has some relevance to the topic at hand). C) The two cost the same these days, and for the price, I feel the simply PS3 offers you better kit ù not necessarily in the "game oomph" meaning, but in terms of functionality. D) Everyone else with a console around here has a PS3, and network play has been trouble-free aside from the hacking debacle. Want to compare the prevalence of RRODsà?
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And (I'm not 100% sure on this, but I do recall seeing a chart from CCP with this info on it) most of EVE's players are from the US, so, on average, I think an EVE player would be more likely to own a 360.
The US is the biggest country, yes, but it's basically tied with Europe as a whole.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 06:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 07/06/2011 06:16:44
Originally by: Pheonix Dragoon
It would appear this decision to make ps3 exclusive to Dust means they still are working at CCP.
No. It means they're working at Microsoft.
Originally by: Max Gades
sony online hacked how many times in the past few weeks?
Twice, apparently. Or wellà once, plus a password retrieval exploit on the Station website.
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xbox live, i havent heard if its ever been hack hasn't been on fox or cnn.
There are plenty of examples.
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where are you at where everyone has PS3?
Like I said, in Europe, there are more PS3s around than 360s.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Herping yourDerp
call me crazy, but US and EU are the largest eve market... and based on that, 360 would make the most sense.
Perhaps. But Microsoft didn't want the business. vOv
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do people in japan even play eve
They're about 1%, according to wikipedia, if you trust that numberà
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Posted - 2011.06.07 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shardivh
Side question, do Sony even have any money left???
Revenue ù $88.205 billion
Operating income ù $342 million
Net income ù $437 million
Total assets ù $188.694 billion
Total equity ù $60.741 billion
Cost of PSN breach ù $171 million
Yes. Yes they do.
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Posted - 2011.06.07 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Creetalor
Worldwide sales figures
Wii û 86.01 million
Xbox 360 û 55 million
PlayStation 3 û 50 million
Japan sales figures
Wii û 11,534,590
PlayStation 3 û 6,341,950
Xbox 360 û 1,448,665
Europe sales figures
PlayStation 3 û 16 million
United Kingdom sales figures
Wii û 8.3 million
Xbox 360 û 3.9 million
PlayStation 3 - 3 million
Sales on wikipedia on the consoles the only country which has more PS3's is Japan
Nice bit of selective quoting thereà
Let's fill in the piece you skipped:
Europe sales figures
Wii ù 24.9 million
PlayStation 3 û 16 million
Xbox 360 ù 13.7 million
So yeah, Japan is the only place where the PS3 has sold more than the 360à
Originally by: Phigmeta
OK seriously ya PS3/CCP apologist; where do you get the "MS didn't want it" bull****?
Oh, here and thereà Most notably the known fact that XBL has more restrictive policies than PSN; that other developers have said the same thing; that CCP themselves hinted at this problem two years ago; that they're still hinting at that problem; and just some good old non-tinfoil logic.
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Have any of you considered that the real reason is because CCP wanted to use their fail currency (AUR) and they really just want to bilk you poor idiots out of more cash?
Ehmà what? Why would they have made it an exclusive for that reason? Wouldn't it have been better to squeeze cash out of both 360 and PS3 owners? You're not making any sense hereà
Originally by: Rrama Ratamnim
http://www.osnews.com/story/24820/Sony_Compromised_Again
Wow what next more free apology games
Now, you do know that Sony BMG isn't SCE, right? Why would they start handing out games?
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jones Bones
I really do not understood why CCP went with a console shooter to begin with. Most console shooters have a life cycle of MAYBE 1 year. Then the sequel or some new competitor's shooter comes out and the player levels drop drastically.
Compare that with the communities that sprung up on the PC around such games as:
BF2
CS 1.6
CSS
TF2
UT2k3
Quake 3: Arena
Tribes
Yes, but why did those game create a community and the console shooters did not?
I'd be willing to bet that it's because those PC games saw continuous development, additions, and modding, whereas the business model for the console games was always "release, maybe add some DLC (and that has only been true for the last few years), and then push the N+1 release".
Could it be that console gamers don't stick around because they know the current game is basically end-of-life at release, and that the next iteration is coming in a year or two? So what happens when that is no longer true; when there is no next iteration, or, rather, when the current game is the next iteration when the expansion/content/ruleset patch gets released in a couple of months?
Or, to look in the opposite direction: what kind of community do we see in the PC games that follow the same kind of release pattern as the console games? The various EA [Sports] [Year] releases or one-shot FPSes or RPGs (and the PC platform has just as many of those as the consoles do)? I'd say it's the same kind of (non-)communities as with the yearly-release console games.
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Posted - 2011.06.08 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 08/06/2011 03:27:48
Originally by: John'eh
The next person to spout off this bs will look worse, granted, but still you said it.
So that would be the CCP devs, then?
Whether you think it's BS or not, several companies expressed similar problems when dealing with XBL.
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Posted - 2011.06.08 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: John'eh
Prove it.
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 08/06/2011 14:01:38
Originally by: Sakura Ren Fenikkusu
Question: How would DUST 514 receive and apply updates?
The same way EVE does. Start the game, see "new patch!" message, wait for it to download and install, play game.
Originally by: Niobo Aeschy
Confirming that I also will not be buying a PS3 merely for another generic FPS.
Sales of Dust would be higher on the PC than any console. Speaking as someone who sells Games and Consoles for a living, console gamers are FICKLE. They play a game for a week, two tops, and trade it in for the next CoD.
Again, this is assuming that Dust will be like all other games, where the N+1 version will be out in stores in a month or two and where the shooters are practically interchangeable. None of this will be the case for Dust, so the behaviour cannot be predicted that easily.
Originally by: Rey Bahn
I wonder if CCP are becoming a second party to Sony in the console marketplace, what with being exclusive across all Playstation brands. Sony has history of not allowing console titles to be published on PC and I doubt that is going to change with this contract. It probably is the likely reason the game is never coming to PC or any platforms now and in the future.
Nice theory, except that the decision not to publish on PC came long before the decision to make it PS3 exclusive. The existence of a myriad titles that do exactly that also belies the theory.
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That would also give an indication as to why the CCP developer responses to the 'why no PC version?' are so shaky and paper thin.
"Not our target market" is shaky and paper thin? 
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
While it is true that XBL does not have open access to the game console like PS3 allows (thank god for that)
Why is that a good thing?
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XBL does allow for external connections to the game publishers servers ... in somewhat like a proxy format.
This sounds like a bad thing for what CCP wants to do. In other words, it's an XBL policy issue.
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Sure if you know literally nothing about the gaming industry you would of course be confused by this ... but its simple, MS does not allow the game publishers to provide its own IGC (In Game Currency)this has nothing to do with greed but rather its a mix of legality issues as well as logical issues.
That doesn't really answer the question: why would CCP's wish to "bilk [us] poor idiots out of more money" make them decide to only pursue one platform? Here, you're saying that it wasn't CCP's decision, but (again) a restriction with the XBL policies ù had CCP had their way, it would have been on both platforms. So your original claim still doesn't make sense.
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
I mean THEY COULD of course make a a great game like MW2 or BF3
Or wait, noà the proper one would be 
When did "derivative" and "great" become synonymsà?
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
Because CCP wants you to buy PLEX ... because apparently the SUB model just wasn't enough for them
Which, again, doesn't answer the question, and rather contradicts the original claim you made.
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Posted - 2011.06.08 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
What you mean like the Halo Planetside derivative that DUST is ?
Kind of, but not nearly. We're not talking about the kind very tiny, incremental, and largely superficial change those games represent, after allà
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Maybe you guys don't read the news or don't have your ears to the ground like I do but...
Anonymous is NOT finished with Sony...
Sure. But which part?
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Sony is notoriously easy to break into, to that end dust will be also.
Soà what, exactly, is it you believe these supposed Sony-hackers will be able to do with/to Dust?
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tu Ko
Dust is using both Eve Isk and Microtransaction cash in its economy. We have already seen the lengths that 'hackers' will go to get passwords for Eve accounts, phishing mails and trojans. The pay off is when they sell Isk for real money, somewhere else. Now imagine if you are one of those with 'skillz' and on the same network there is both Credit Card purchases and Account information... all in plain text...
Ok, so some standard account theft in other words? Meh.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
PSN is going to be DIRECTLY linked to the TranQ Servers.
Of course it will, otherwise it would be hard to log in, wouldn't it?
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That means a 1-1 Sharing of ALL information that eve players have.
No, it does not.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
YEah... Kinda dose bro.. Sorry to say..
Nope.
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Thats how network infrastructure bridging works. You Mirror the data to avoid the latency the would be caused by making endless requests for it from the other infrastructure your bridging too. I have my CCNA and my CISSP, I know what I am talking about.
Except, you know, that they're not doing that. So no, it does not mean what you think it means. As always.
Tranq is not sharing any data with PSN.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 09/06/2011 03:54:51
Originally by: George Wilkes Hill
If DUST is running on tranquility directly through PSN they are sharing some data period.
It's not. PSN isn't doing anything other than serve up customer logins.
Dust is running on TQ; players connect through PSN. PSN might have to send some data to TQ, but none actually needs to be shared ù TQ can have its own separate record of who is who and if it doesn't like what PSN sends its way, it can simply say "nah, we don't know that guy ù DENIED!" Or, for that matter, TQ could say "hey, you're newà fill out this information" (none of which is sent back to PSN). Once the hand-off is done, PSN might as well not exist.
àbut I suppose that connection failure message could be construed as some very basic form of data sharing.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: George Wilkes Hill
According to CCP it is.
Source?
And no, the article you linked in the other thread does not say that.
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Posted - 2011.06.09 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
Actually had they gone with and XBL based system .. direct linking would have not been necessary .. but w/e
It's not strictly necessary with PSN either, but then again, I still believe that reporter didn't really understand the topicà
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But then again ... we don't really know $hit all do we Tippia ... we are all just popping off our months without any real knowledge of the games industry and we have never even touched a dev kit now have we....
.... well at least one of us hasn't
Sure, but you can't be too mad at Xenuria for that. It's having a hard time with basic maths, so software development is way off for nowà
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zeko Rena
I think you can buy a keyboard and mouse for PS3?
Yes.
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But even if you can knowing the console market you will have to buy a specific PS3 keyboard and mouse for it to work, and i don't want to have to buy a game and then two more items to enjoy playing it.
No. It supports any HID-compliant mouse and keyboard.
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zeko Rena
Oh okay, nice, thanks Tippia, that makes it less of an issue.
Only problem now is that PS3 is hooked upto the TV as i mostly use it as a Blu-Ray player, and the coffee table just won't work well for a keyboard and mouse.
God now i need a 2nd PS3 too hook up to my PC screen so i can multi task between the two
àthat said, I do recall seeing PS3-branded keyboards for outrageous prices, so you can bet they're trying to get that juicy fanboy cash.
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Posted - 2011.06.10 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 10/06/2011 03:28:44
Originally by: Xenuria
For the record Tippia I have yet to lose a single Guardian Vexor with that fit.
That's because you don't own any.
It isn't gankproof in any sense of the word.
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