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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:38:00 -
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OK, so let me get this straight:
When DUST is out, we will see (on the EVE client) energy beams being shot out of planets blowing up ships?
If planet troops need supplies, can I provide provisions from orbit? (I'm looking at this from a transport pilots point of view). |
Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:51:00 -
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i declare war on you
i want your PI installations
i hire dust mercs to take them over
you hire mercs to defend
mercs fight
your mercs take planet side weapons while i try to bombard your side
your mercs shoot at me
my mercs take those guns and help with with my awesome bombardments
i win
i get your stuffs.
coversly
i dont want your stuff i want your tears quickly and leave the region
i nuke your planet
all your PI is gone.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 07/06/2011 17:53:21
 Originally by: Herping yourDerp
i declare war on you
i want your PI installations
i hire dust mercs to take them over
you hire mercs to defend
mercs fight
your mercs take planet side weapons while i try to bombard your side
your mercs shoot at me
my mercs take those guns and help with with my awesome bombardments
i win
i get your stuffs.
coversly
i dont want your stuff i want your tears quickly and leave the region
i nuke your planet
all your PI is gone.
If true, that sucks on a great many levels.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.06.07 17:58:00 -
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my guess is PI will get more expensive, and be more like sim city then farmvile. with cities to take over that produce vast amounts of items, maybe even eve modules and stuff
its not bad if you look deep into it, the problem is, Dust will fail with the exclusive console. PS3 players dont stay on one game for long and even so it has to be amazing to last a month...
360 gamers are the same, but probably 1 in 2 people online are playing a shooter online opposed to sony i bet its more like 1 in 10 online people are playing a shooter online.
sony is more of an RPG/single player experience kinda system.
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ingvar Angst
If true, that sucks on a great many levels.
Well the nitty gritty details are probably pulled out his arse. But the basic concept of hiring teams of Dust players to attack or defend PI colonies is what CCP have told us. Though interestingly their latest E3 trailer suggests it might have something to do with sov warfare and control instead. Certainly I can't imagine anyone risking a Dreadnought or an 120 million ISK dropship over a PI colony.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 07/06/2011 18:04:41
If they screw up the PI stuff too badly, or even set up a situation where people simply go around nuking everyone else's PI for gits and shiggles, the effects this would have on the economy and everything that either uses fuels derived from PI or is manufactured using PI products would be crushing. You'll ultimately result in only the richest or largest alliances even being able to afford running a pos, let alone manufacturing goods. PI is hugely tied into the current economy.
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Henry Haphorn
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: Henry Haphorn on 07/06/2011 18:14:50
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
sony is more of an RPG/single player experience kinda system.
Well, CCP is trying to break that mold from the looks of it just as how Nintendo is currently breaking the mold with its game-changing platforms like the WiiU with its interconnectivity. Consoles have even reached a point where systems like the Xbox and PS3 are used more often for home theater entertainment than gaming (I'm not sure what negative effects that could have on DUST).
Overall, console gaming has taken a turn in many directions at once and therefore the market for it is changing accordingly. At this point, it's a wait and see game. Of course, Dust 514 would fail if it was strictly a FPS game with no impact or connection to Eve Online since the console market is already flooded with many other FPS games. The selling point is the connectivity of console players to the PC players in a single-sharded universe where war drive the local markets.
I would love to see an Xbox version of Dust 514; but let's face it, there is no way Microsoft's policies for MMOs (or persistent shooters for that matter) would ever allow an Xbox version to flourish considering the numerous updates that CCP puts out throughout a single year.
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Originally by: Takseen
Well the nitty gritty details are probably pulled out his arse. But the basic concept of hiring teams of Dust players to attack or defend PI colonies is what CCP have told us. Though interestingly their latest E3 trailer suggests it might have something to do with sov warfare and control instead. Certainly I can't imagine anyone risking a Dreadnought or an 120 million ISK dropship over a PI colony.
Well, if you look at the beginning of the promo video posted on the Dust 514 website, the data screen noted that there the attack shown in the video occurred in the Stain region.
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S'qarpium D'igil
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: S''qarpium D''igil on 07/06/2011 18:17:09
Honestly, if the prices listed in that trailer are at all accurate, it will simply be more effective to move and set up a new PI chain somewhere else than to hire 12 year-old children to defend your (non-)valuable buildings.
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:20:00 -
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hurray for assuming all console players are 12.
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Henry Haphorn
Well, if you look at the beginning of the promo video posted on the Dust 514 website, the data screen noted that there the attack shown in the video occurred in the Stain region
Oh ok, nothing to do with Sov then. That's strange then because most PI colonies aren't really worth defending at the moment.
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Not-Apsalar
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
OK, so let me get this straight:
When DUST is out, we will see (on the EVE client) energy beams being shot out of planets blowing up ships?
If planet troops need supplies, can I provide provisions from orbit? (I'm looking at this from a transport pilots point of view).
10 Exotic Dancers
1 Janitor
500 Militants
20 Homeless
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Kile Hannad
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
If true, that sucks on a great many levels.
Well the nitty gritty details are probably pulled out his arse. But the basic concept of hiring teams of Dust players to attack or defend PI colonies is what CCP have told us. Though interestingly their latest E3 trailer suggests it might have something to do with sov warfare and control instead. Certainly I can't imagine anyone risking a Dreadnought or an 120 million ISK dropship over a PI colony.
I'm wondering if it's a matter of having the means to destroy TCU's or attack stations from planetside.
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S'qarpium D'igil
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ayieka
hurray for assuming all console players are 12.
Of those who are not, at least 60% have the mind of a twelve year-old. I have no intention of relying on console players to defend something when I can easily just move it somewhere else.
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Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION
C0NVICTED
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:32:00 -
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I reckon they'll change the sov system to involve planets tbh...
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:36:00 -
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Unless PI is going to suddenly look like an RTS (with Dust controlled units) interaction for us, I don't see the point of any direct interaction.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ayieka
hurray for assuming all console players are 12.
Most of them are, we both know this. 
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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lwxsky oli
Minmatar
FACTS on EVE
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:37:00 -
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You'll have to hire mercs control a planet in order to mine the moons.
That's why CCP won't nerf moon goos.
It would take much more resources to control a good moon.
Seriously, anyone really care about planet interaction facilities ?? lol
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.07 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: lwxsky oli
You'll have to hire mercs control a planet in order to mine the moons.
That's why CCP won't nerf moon goos.
It would take much more resources to control a good moon.
Seriously, anyone really care about planet interaction facilities ?? lol
Try living in a wormhole. You care about your fuel supply, or the T3 production that requires PI products.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.07 21:55:00 -
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I wonder how corporate management will work as apparently EVE and DUST players can join each other's corps? How are they supposed to know each other's right structures and POS autorisations?
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