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Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:33:00 -
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I recently broke the billion isk mark and I thought I was well loaded with isk, but now I'm not sure. Is it common to have a billion?
I guess people who fly shiny tengus and golems can afford to lose them, which must mean they have several billion perhaps. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
203
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:44:00 -
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Wallet size is not very meaningful as people might put all their ISK into assets. Therefor the net asset value (NAV) is a good measure of wealth, i.e. the sum of the value of everything you own minus what you owe. You can calculate it with tools like EveHQ.
I'd say it is normal for players to accrue dozens of billions in NAV over the years. |
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
94
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:44:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:I recently broke the billion isk mark and I thought I was well loaded with isk, but now I'm not sure. Is it common to have a billion?
I guess people who fly shiny tengus and golems can afford to lose them, which must mean they have several billion perhaps.
1 bil is small change |
Robert Warner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:45:00 -
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These topics pop-up quite often and there's no easy way to answer them. "Rich" in EvE means something different to everyone and people all arrive to these topics thinking they're rich and leave feeling like a grain of sand on the beach.
To answer your question though: a billion ISK is a substantial sum and marks your first significant 'ISK milestone'. It is, however, relatively common. |
Jack Miton
Bite Me inc
Elysian Empire
549
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:50:00 -
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To me, rich is more a measure of how quickly you can make isk rather than how much you have in your wallet currently.
As for raw isk value, 1bil isnt much.
It largely depends on your play stye and environment but for me, 1bil doesnt even cover one ship. |
CENGIZHAN
the unified
Negative Ten.
5
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Posted - 2012.09.10 07:59:00 -
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"Average for all characters: 588tn ISK / 8.17 mil = 72 million ISK"
"Average for characters on active accounts: 372tn ISK / 745,000 = 499 million ISK"
I didn't consider myself rich until I had around 25B disposable. Of course it's all subjective. |
Amateratsu
The Pegasus Project
22
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:03:00 -
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Richest player on EveBoard currently has 268 Billion...
Rich List
I've heard of players having Trillions |
Lord Wamphyri
Starside Lost
164
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:12:00 -
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As previous posters have said, it's different for each person, especially as many will have their wealth in assets as opposed to raw ISK.
I thought of myself as pretty well off when I hit the 10bill mark, though most of that has gone into ships, BPOs etc. But even 10B is small change to some.
Personally though, I feel that as long as you can spend it on ships and not flinch when they get blown up, that's a good balance.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2643
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:17:00 -
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1 bil in your wallet is small change for people who play to fatten their wallets, but a significant sum for people who play to spend money. It is an important milestone for many. Personally I fluctuate between 1 and 3 bill ISK in wallet. When I dip below a billion I play to fatten the wallet buffer, but otherwise I'll ignore how much money I've got. |
Warp Planet6
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:26:00 -
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I make 1 bil per week when I have enough time. So I guess everything above 10b more than average... |
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Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:40:00 -
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Thanks for the replies. With assets I have about 2bill. I recently bought a CNR and I follow the rule "only fly what you can afford to lose"
Well I feel rich :P
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Roxwar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
101
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:52:00 -
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Considering one guy recently bought a schmitar BPO on the sell forums for 310b, only CCP know the real wealthiest player in EVE Online.
Certain Goons have hundreds of billions persoanlly, certain players hold hundreds of billions worth of T2 BPO's, so its really hard to estimate who the richest player in EVE actually is.
I'd guess the guy who bought that Schmitar BPO has quite a substantion pile considering he can blow 310b of it and a BPO and still have a nice pile to work with afterwards.
You have to remember, all types of people play eve, from 14yr old high schoolers, to lawyers, doctors, directors of companies ect and should these guys wish, i'm sure they could sink thousands of RL money into GTC's so make their escape that little bit more enjoyable.
I know should i win the lottery and become a millionaire IRL, i'd think nothing of spending tens of thousands on Plex just because i could and just because i'd like to see a 1t wallet balance heh |
William Walker
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
58
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Posted - 2012.09.10 08:54:00 -
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Does anyone else get annoyed if they go under a certain amount? It's like a basis I don't want to go below, for me it is 2 bil. Just in case, I always say. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:14:00 -
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1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:16:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:Thanks for the replies. With assets I have about 2bill. I recently bought a CNR and I follow the rule "only fly what you can afford to lose"
Well I feel rich :P
CNRs are nice! 
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
172
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:16:00 -
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I like to keep a reserve of 1b so I can replace any ships I may lose (I don't fly anything worth more than ~300m as a matter of policy).
But actually I ignore this rule more often than not and end up with only 200m or so in my wallets  Right now though I'm in the comfort zone with about 1.5b liquid ISK.
At any rate my goal is not 'being rich', I just pull in enough ISK to buy what I want to fly, I don't waste any more time than neccessary on PvE. That's why I'll never have many billions of ISK piled up no matter how many more years I'm going to play this game.
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John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:17:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:I like to keep a reserve of 1b so I can replace any ships I may lose (I don't fly anything worth more than ~300m as a matter of policy).
For PVE or PVP?
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:18:00 -
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There certainly are a few people with net worth in trillions. I haven't heard anyone claim a 10T net worth yet, but I guess it is not impossible by now. |
terzslave
RedStar Enterprises
RED Citizens
53
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:22:00 -
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well I made 1 billion within my first month of starting the game so I doubt it's considered rich if a complete noob could do it..... |
Luis Graca
146
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:22:00 -
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Rich is when you're having isk to support the type of gaming you like,or have you forgot this is a video game |
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ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
Executive Outcomes
221
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:27:00 -
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Chribba has at least one of each cap and super cap (not on the same char) including titans.
The recent Faction warfare scam/bug that goons pulled was done by only a few people and it used hundreds of billions in upfront costs...
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Nulla Curas |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:31:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:I recently broke the billion isk mark and I thought I was well loaded with isk, but now I'm not sure. Is it common to have a billion?
I guess people who fly shiny tengus and golems can afford to lose them, which must mean they have several billion perhaps.
It's all a matter of need, if like me tend only to fly frigates,ceptors,cruisers then I can easily manage on a few hundred million.
I'm past the shiny shiny stage so although having lots of isk is nice it's not really needed.
Obviously if you want to fly SC's, Titans then you're going to need lots of isk.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:37:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work.
I don't believe this :-) 14 L4 missions @ maybe average 20mil a time with good salvage ~= 300 mill.
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Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:41:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work and selling a GTC I don't believe this :-) 14 L4 missions @ maybe average 20mil a time with good salvage ~= 300 mill.
Fixed the quote.
I'm suprised you've never come across BS on the forums before???? Had some other clown the other day saying he killed 100 ships this month in his pilgrim lol and behold he hadn't even killed a 100 ships ever.
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God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
325
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:43:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. I don't believe this :-) 14 L4 missions @ maybe average 20mil a time with good salvage ~= 300 mill.
Pro tip: a lot of people in these threads seem to think they make a lot more than they actually do. But on second thought he never said where and who he was running missions for. I know you can make a bomb load off of pirate missions cus of lp but I cant remember any amounts. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
299
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:53:00 -
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If you can make 5 bil in an hour, you're either doing it right or insane.
Maybe both.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liasions (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Bruce Kemp
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
5
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Posted - 2012.09.10 09:54:00 -
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Since RMT was introduced, rich has lost all meaning in eve.
EG: work for 1 week in real life, earn -ú1000, buy Time codes sell Time codes = richest in eve?
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Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:39:00 -
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I'd be a lot richer I had hadn't plexed two accounts for about a year. |
Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
133
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:46:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. I don't believe this :-) 14 L4 missions @ maybe average 20mil a time with good salvage ~= 300 mill.
He didn't say which missions tbh, maybe he only does the best ones. Or maybe its level 5s, or fw missions, i hear they pay good these days.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
555
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:51:00 -
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William Walker wrote:Does anyone else get annoyed if they go under a certain amount? It's like a basis I don't want to go below, for me it is 2 bil. Just in case, I always say.
I would like to have a 5 bill cushion - someday. No idea why, it just sounds like a decent isk buffer.
Broadly speaking, so long as my incoming isk is greater than my ship losses, I am a happy soul.
You want fries with that? |
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Katarina Reid
Blackwater Company.
215
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Posted - 2012.09.10 10:56:00 -
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I rate it something like.
1b out of the noob zone
10b well off
100b rich
1 trillion super rich |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:05:00 -
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Chimpy B wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. I don't believe this :-) 14 L4 missions @ maybe average 20mil a time with good salvage ~= 300 mill.
Nope. Just get Enemies Abound 3 of 5 on 2 agents in one station and don't kill the last 3 frigates in the last room. When server resets you can do it again. That's 100 million ISK a day just in tags from 2 instances, with at least another 50 million in salvage.
And there's another Lvl 4 agent 2 jumps away from my home system so I can have 3 instances running at once until the quest times out and I complete it (so as not to lose standing).
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Signal11th
Against ALL Anomalies
686
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:07:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Chimpy B wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. I don't believe this :-) 14 L4 missions @ maybe average 20mil a time with good salvage ~= 300 mill. Nope. Just get Enemies Abound 3 of 5 on 2 agents in one station and don't kill the last 3 frigates in the last room. When server resets you can do it again. That's 100 million ISK a day just in tags, with at least another 50 million in salvage.
Jesus you can still do that? I thought they had "sorted" that out ages ago.
God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Jericho Vargan
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:07:00 -
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I have made my first million ISK in wallet today and for me this is proud moment :) |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:07:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:Jesus you can still do that? I thought they had "sorted" that out ages ago.
Yes.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Togg Bott
Open University of Celestial Hardship
Art of War Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:12:00 -
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the idea of rich is subjective, i have been playing EvE since 2007, and i have never had a networth above 3 billion and have never had more than 1.5 billion isk liquid. some people would call me poor and a **** poor player, but i rate rich as having enough isk to do what i want and have fun doing it. if i can have fun on 500 million then i'm rich, if i have 5 billion and am not having fun then i'm not rich enough.
sand box= doing what i want when i want in the method that i want to do it in. |
Diesel47
Painkiller.
254
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:13:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:Signal11th wrote:Jesus you can still do that? I thought they had "sorted" that out ages ago. Yes.
What do you exactly mean get it on two agents in one station? |
Jonah Gravenstein
1112
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:13:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:
Jesus you can still do that? I thought they had "sorted" that out ages ago.
Shh don't remind them that people are still farming phat missions 
CCP can't patch stupid. |
John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:18:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:What do you exactly mean get it on two agents in one station?
I chose a station that has 2 Lvl 4 Agents. So you just take all the missions from each agent until they both give you Enemies Abound and work through to 3 of 5. Then don't complete them. I think the time out is 5 or 6 days or something like that, so you can do the mission once on each agent every 24 hrs.
Simples.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
11
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:30:00 -
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Reminder: being Caldari farming 3 of 5 of known mission, result in massive standing loss with Gallente.
Farm 5 of 5 and you are loved only by Amarr and Caldari. |
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Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1517
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:28:00 -
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Rich is when you can afford what you need and all it's left is what you want.
"I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose."
-Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |
Arbiter Reformed
Analog Folk
SRS.
52
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:32:00 -
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done right c5-c6 wormholes make around 6-700 mill an hour, ive known people to make 5 bill in an evening rather regularly
id say rich is 100b |
Dennis Gregs
Dawn of Fire
31
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Posted - 2012.09.10 13:34:00 -
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Depends on what you want to do with that ISK... |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
201
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:45:00 -
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The top 1% of eve has over a trillion isk. Just to put some perspective on that for you.
There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |
Maxxatan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:45:00 -
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My net worth is 120B or so and I get called poor on a regular basis. I'd say rich and poor varies by what you do in EVE, and how long you have been playing. Note that the figures below are purely my own creation and are for just "rich" rather that "ultra rich".
Nullsec alliance people: Titan ownership is the "rich" threshold.
Wormholers: 100bil net worth
Highsec in general: 20bil liquid
Jita: 500bil net worth
On the other hand, we can use stats from EVEBoard to make a more scientifically accurate study.
Tracking 1,862.82 billion SP and 61.83 trillion ISK in 51,440 pilots!
When we cut out people in EVE who don't really matter or are probably alts ( <10M SP) we get 37,000 pilots.
61.83T/37K = about 2bil per pilot on average. That's just liquid ISK though.
EDIT: I seem to remember there actually being a graph out there that shows average liquid ISK against SP.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=143535 |
Darius Brinn
Iberians
Iberians.
92
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:49:00 -
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It's all relative.
If you have 5 or 10 billion liquid ISK, but all you do is hang around in a Battlecruiser with friends, buying the occasional shiny toy which ends up collecting dust in a hangar, then you are rich.
If you have 10 billions and your goal is to sit in a Nyx until it explodes...then you are poor and a long way from your goal.
All in all I found that, while never making much Isk, I never needed much either, so my meager sources of income are more than enough to pay for the ships I lose. And the ships I fancy.
As I would have no issues purchasing and losing multiple pimped T3s or Command ships or Carriers or whatever, I expect I'm pretty well off, but the truth is that the fun I extract from my gaming sessions seem to be completely unrelated to the shiny toys I decide to undock.
A humble Hurricane seems to be enough most days. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:50:00 -
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I'm rich enough that I can give away nice ships to new players, usually 1 Billion worth a month. This weekend I bought a guy I just met a CNR, well just because I can... When you give a Hulk, Drake, Raven, etc people are generally thankful... |
Darius Brinn
Iberians
Iberians.
92
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:55:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:I'm rich enough that I can give away nice ships to new players, usually 1 Billion worth a month. This weekend I bought a guy I just met a CNR, well just because I can... When you give a Hulk, Drake, Raven, etc people are generally thankful...
Perhaps I could I interest you in some A-grade gratitude?
For the meager price of a Hulk, Drake or Raven, I could be as generally thankful as you could ever desire! Feast on the adoration eve-mails I could be sending you.
Dude, make good use of your Isk. Give away to REAL thankers. Give to Darius Brinn.
http://www.lookatcat.com/data/media/12/cat_shrek.jpg |
Maxxatan
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.09.10 14:56:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:I'm rich enough that I can give away nice ships to new players, usually 1 Billion worth a month. This weekend I bought a guy I just met a CNR, well just because I can... When you give a Hulk, Drake, Raven, etc people are generally thankful...
That's a pretty meaningless definition. For all we know you make 1.5 bil a month and the spare 500mil is spent on a PLEX.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=143535 |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
267
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:41:00 -
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John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work.
Sigh, another liar trying a stealth "nerf missions" ploy.
500 million a night, let's be generous and say 5 hours/ session.
Sorry, no one makes 100M / hour running missions, even including LP.
But nice try, thanks for playing.
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SealteamXI
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:55:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. Sigh, another liar trying a stealth "nerf missions" ploy. 500 million a night, let's be generous and say 5 hours/ session. Sorry, no one makes 100M / hour running missions, even including LP. But nice try, thanks for playing.
If you think that, you're doing it wrong. |
bbb2020
Carebears with Attitude
6
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Posted - 2012.09.10 15:58:00 -
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You can also look at it this way.
Of the 51438 players on Eveboard,1116 players has hit the 1bil mark. Thats only 2,17%
If you (and I know you can't do it this way so hold the bashing) put that into Eve in generel, and lets say there's 745.000 active characters in eve, that will translate into 16200 characters having over 1bill isk. Don't know it that is many or not.
Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66491 |
Theron Urian
The Moirae Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2012.09.10 16:18:00 -
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Here is the thing about ISK, there comes a point where you get so much that it out grows your play style. Sure you got 200bil in ISK but if your just flying around in faction / t2 fit BC's what does that count for?
Point is unless your looking in to capital ships, running a corp / alliance, or large scale industry / trade what use is that 200bil?
If your just doing pvp in T2 fit cruisers and frigs and that is fun and how you spend all your time, then having a constant 2-5bil in liquid ISK is rolling in the dough.
TL;DR Rich is relative to your game activity imo. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
126
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Posted - 2012.09.10 17:49:00 -
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Anya Ohaya wrote:I'd be a lot richer I had hadn't plexed two accounts for about a year.
Same here |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
269
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Posted - 2012.09.10 17:57:00 -
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A corpmate of mine said last night, in response to a question asked by another corpmate "Nah, I'm not gonna buy that right now. Im broke. I just bought a new dread and I'm down to 8 Bill"
I personally rarely see a bill ISK because I spend it. I dont rat my face off for hours on end with a carrier supporting a tengu, so I don't rake in Billions in bounty prizes. I know guy that do this as a sole means of income and are way way way more rich than myself.
I dont really like ratting, unless I'm in a group, probably because I have yet to train into Caldari T3 cruisers, and a Proteus isnt the best for ratting. (but for some reason, I dont mind staring at asteroids.... im weird).
I struggle to get by on about 750M at a time, My wallet usually fluctuates between 200-750M. This is because I don't stay liquid. I usually immediately invest in some sort of asset, such as ships or equipment. I purchase much more than I need, on purpose.
Some people stock pile ISK for when they need it. I stockpile ships and modules to use as I need them. I have a ton of sub caps and enough fittings to fit probably 20 more ships. If I were to liquify my assets, I would probably triple my wallet. Maybe quadruple.
Its all relative.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya |
Senshi Hawk
Occupational Hazzard
Get Off My Lawn
44
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:07:00 -
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I split the areas of gameplay into categories and then assess it that way. The numbers change from time to time and is by no means the be-all-end-all of calculations, but in looking at the majority, it's fair to say a "rich" pilot who spends 100% of his time in highsec follows a different metric than a "rich" pilot who lives in c5 wormholes.
If someone told me they earned 5bil quarterly in highsec running missions and other carebear stuff, I'd chalk that up as being rich.
But if a factional warfare grinder told me they were making 5bil quarterly, I would not be nearly as impressed. |
Nyrak
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:15:00 -
[57] - Quote
On the other hand, I am so poor, homeless people give me their spare ISK. 
Being a casual player due to not having much real life time to invest, to follow career paths in the game that CCP later nerfed does wonders to the pocketbook. Fortunately I am able to derive some fun factors out of being meager and scraping by and do not need the fancy stuff to play. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
1973
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
bbb2020 wrote:You can also look at it this way. Of the 51438 players on Eveboard,1116 players has hit the 1bil mark. Thats only 2,17% If you (and I know you can't do it this way so hold the bashing) put that into Eve in generel, and lets say there's 745.000 active characters in eve, that will translate into 16200 characters having over 1bill isk. Don't know it that is many or not. Source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66491
I wouldn't call eveboard all that representative - after all most people only use it when they want to sell a character and these characters wallets are typically empty. And as someone mentioned before, it leaves out isk stored in assets or currently bound in the market.
You know... morons. |
Angsty Teenager
65
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:34:00 -
[59] - Quote
The problem is that while I can make literally as much isk as I want very easily, I get very lazy after I make about 30bil. As long as I can afford endless Talos's I'm good. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
966
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:35:00 -
[60] - Quote
When you start wondering what to spend ISK on, then you are rich.
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John Ratcliffe
Sausy Sausages
8
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. Sigh, another liar trying a stealth "nerf missions" ploy. 500 million a night, let's be generous and say 5 hours/ session. Sorry, no one makes 100M / hour running missions, even including LP. But nice try, thanks for playing.
Instead of talking sh*t like some clueless little f*ckwit, why don't you try it? Then you can come back to this thread and apologise for being such a ret@rd.
The men waved their hats, the ladies their umbrellas. One felt they would have liked to touch the steel muscles of the most courageous champions since antiquity. Who will carry off the first prize, entering the pantheon where only supermen may go? |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1613
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:45:00 -
[62] - Quote
If you're flying around lowsec in an Apocalypse Imperial issue, sporting a monocle, while sipping 1869 Ch+óteau Lafite and taking a call from Jonathan Goldsmith, then you are officially space rich.
Until then shut up playa, nobody cares.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
13
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:31:00 -
[63] - Quote
Quote:I'd be a lot richer I had hadn't plexed two accounts for about a year.
Plexing one account for about two years ahead doesn't make me rich either. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1371
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:31:00 -
[64] - Quote
I know a guy who has about 16b liquid isk. He was complaining a couple months ago about having to buy an assault frigate for a fleet. He generally flies T1 frigates, cruisers or BC's. Is always the first one to any wrecks, and always has a salvager on his ship no matter what it is.
He worries about running out of isk so he never spends any.
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highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
272
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:40:00 -
[65] - Quote
No More Heroes wrote:I know a guy who has about 16b liquid isk. He was complaining a couple months ago about having to buy an assault frigate for a fleet. He generally flies T1 frigates, cruisers or BC's. Is always the first one to any wrecks, and always has a salvager on his ship no matter what it is. He worries about running out of isk so he never spends any.
Never not jew
I love the guys that show up to fleet fights in salvage rifters! 
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1443
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:43:00 -
[66] - Quote
highonpop wrote:No More Heroes wrote:I know a guy who has about 16b liquid isk. He was complaining a couple months ago about having to buy an assault frigate for a fleet. He generally flies T1 frigates, cruisers or BC's. Is always the first one to any wrecks, and always has a salvager on his ship no matter what it is. He worries about running out of isk so he never spends any. Never not jew I love the guys that show up to fleet fights in salvage rifters!
If they are newbies be sure to give them some isk. Cute newbies...
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Jonah Gravenstein
1151
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:50:00 -
[67] - Quote
No More Heroes wrote:I know a guy who has about 16b liquid isk. He was complaining a couple months ago about having to buy an assault frigate for a fleet. He generally flies T1 frigates, cruisers or BC's. Is always the first one to any wrecks, and always has a salvager on his ship no matter what it is. He worries about running out of isk so he never spends any.
Short arms and alligator pockets?
CCP can't patch stupid. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1065
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Posted - 2012.09.10 20:00:00 -
[68] - Quote
When you are in the trillions you are doing pretty well I think....
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Toroup
Prometheus Deep Core Mining and Salvage
41
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Posted - 2012.09.10 20:26:00 -
[69] - Quote
I used to have isk, then I found Blink....
08/10/2012 - 09/10/2012
Deposits To Blink 126,776,018,133
Received From Blink 90,910,440,000
Total -35,865,578,133
Most of the 90 went back in so pretty much I'm now sitting on 5 faction fitted ships (Navy Scorpion, Rattlesnake, Mackinaw, Orca and a Tengu) and about 160M liquid. I can make about 50M/hour doing level 4s and another 25M/hour mining on a second account so it will only take me 512 hours to recover what I lost in a month....
* crawls under the desk and silently weeps... |
forestwho
Foonfleet Investment Banking
31
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Posted - 2012.09.10 20:41:00 -
[70] - Quote
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:If you can make 5 bil in an hour, you're either doing it right or insane.
Maybe both.
my record is 37b in 20 minuts, was kinda funny
when you have your first 20b you feel rich, when you reach your first 100b you just think thats only a 100b. When you reach your first 200b you think your cool and awesome but after a week you start to think thats its still just a bit of isk...
the point is that the more you get the more your want
Greed is the mother of all evil
Play this game to make isk only and you start yourselve subcontionaly learning to be greedy. Eventualy this affects your rl. This game thought me to not to be greedy and enjoy life. Do good, recieve good! I gues its has something involving cultural differances aswell, materialism seems to be a hot topic to brainwash mass consumers to boost up economical growth and such... say whatever you want, give it a thought reall good and keep the eyes open.
If you have 4,5T your getting bored and you buy crazy stuff like full faction/officer smartbombing phanters, fund corp faction roals for giggles, supers for lols and donate billions of isk to people that rly deserve it. That are good of heart and still have the passion you once had for this game..... |
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Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
4
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Posted - 2012.09.10 20:58:00 -
[71] - Quote
I will never be rich.. I spend what I have and thoroughly enjoy the game. I don't see the point of having a fat wallet but the "game" becomes another job where you feel you have to put in as many hours as possible. I do have lots of assets though as I get bored flying the same ships for too long. |
Maki Osa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 21:00:00 -
[72] - Quote
Luis Graca wrote:Rich is when you're having isk to support the type of gaming you like,or have you forgot this is a video game
This right here. If you've got the money to do what you want, who cares how much more beyond that you acquire? |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1621
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Posted - 2012.09.10 21:04:00 -
[73] - Quote
Maki Osa wrote:Luis Graca wrote:Rich is when you're having isk to support the type of gaming you like,or have you forgot this is a video game This right here. If you've got the money to do what you want, who cares how much more beyond that you acquire? Tell that to the people losing freighters to goober gankers.
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |
Chief Guns
The Praxis Initiative
Gentlemen's Agreement
1
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Posted - 2012.09.10 21:14:00 -
[74] - Quote
I have no desire for spacebucks. I've got no isk to speak of in my wallet but I have all the ships that I want to fly and I am in a great alliance where I can put them to good use. I've got nothing to worry about and can keep up my favorite playstile indefinately. So I guess I really am rich as in having a great eve experience. |
Nex apparatu5
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
336
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Posted - 2012.09.10 21:46:00 -
[75] - Quote
Once I hit 100b or so, I realized that risk isn't the most valuable asset, trust is. The fact that people will regularly trust me with hundreds of billions means more to me than any number in my wallet. |
Goonspiracy
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:09:00 -
[76] - Quote
Value of total assets is the only real way to measure wealth. There are individual players out there with 5-15 trillion worth. Most of them belonging to the class of undeserving wealthy who got lucky due to T2 BPOs. |
Uuali
True Companion Services
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:22:00 -
[77] - Quote
I own ten ibis (ibises, ibae, ibisi?).
Anyway, I'm rich. Call it what you will. |
Nikodiemus
Jokulhlaup
51
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Posted - 2012.09.11 02:40:00 -
[78] - Quote
Since RMT via PLEX was introduced, the real rich is how much isk you can make ingame without PLEXing and how fast you make that isk. The really and truly wealthy players are few and typically have around 50B-200B with a few over that amount (talking liquid isk here)
The players that have around a trillion are not the players that have that much in their wallets routinely, but can manage that much if needed for a big bpo purchase for instance.
There really are no quick isk for large sums in EVE, but the players that can make huge amounts through industry take a long time and several characters trained to a pretty significant degree to complete such jobs, and this takes time and real life skill and patience. Building up huge amounts of isk in eve takes lots of time except for very few smart traders in rare instances where patches are deployed with indy changes that CCP does a **** job of rolling in and announcing ahead of time. |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:24:00 -
[79] - Quote
It's a respectable amount, but really it isn't very much in EVE. I'm a little less than that myself, but have probably had more than 12 times that at one time.
That was awhile ago, and I've pretty much spent it all on BPOs, PLEX, and stupid wasteful things along with losing nearly half of it to 'Margin Trading Scam' and supposedly viable money making opportunities that never paid off.
You wouldn't believe, (or maybe you would), how really worthless Tech II small rigs are. You couldn't sell them for much more than a million ISK in most cases. I suppose that should be expected, but I didn't think of it at the time: there are Tech II Hulls right? Poor logic apparently.
..anyway, yeah, no it's not a lot, but like I said, it is respectable.
I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |
Methesda
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:34:00 -
[80] - Quote
Uuali wrote:I own ten ibis (ibises, ibae, ibisi?).
Anyway, I'm rich. Call it what you will.
Blissfully ignorant. You luck lucky person.
Personally, because of my rather sketchy playstyle, and my ablity to either die, or kill people who like to deny killmails by self-distructing, I find the best method for measuring my richness is TGBU unit.
That's 'Times Getting Blown Up'. So for example, I can afford about 50 TGBU's flying my current flavour of ship before having to worry about isk. I'm pretty happy about that. |
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Jacob Stiller
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1615
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:54:00 -
[81] - Quote
I have over 10 billion in assets and consider myself a small player in the trading scene. I'll probably consider myself a major player when I have at least 100 billion in inventory on the market (or, alternately, extended as loans to other players). The super rich have assets in the trillions. |
loki energon
Voodoo Children
Workers Trade Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.09.11 05:01:00 -
[82] - Quote
i dont consider myself "rich", i generally keep several hundred mil in my wallet. i do keep several "Forward Operating Bases", fully equipped hangars with mods for racial fittings for missions, ammo, booster charges, and usually a few ships for missioning.
i found one the other day id completely forgotten about.....but if i started losing or having to replace ships id feel it, and some of my corp mates have replaced T3 ships MANY times. so rich? no.
kill em all. |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2012.09.11 05:15:00 -
[83] - Quote
Amateratsu wrote:Richest player on EveBoard currently has 268 Billion... Rich ListI've heard of players having Trillions
Bad Bobby made 800bil in one scam, and there was a more recent one the also netted around 800 bil.
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Dirty Weegie
Posthuman Society
Elysian Empire
8
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Posted - 2012.09.11 07:06:00 -
[84] - Quote
Once you move out of high sec a bil is nothing
In wormhole space and null making a billion isk or more in a day is normal.. as is losing it
If you can't win fair... Cheat |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
259
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Posted - 2012.09.11 07:13:00 -
[85] - Quote
The price explosions of minerals made me a poor woman.
New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |
Robert Warner
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2012.09.11 07:25:00 -
[86] - Quote
Dirty Weegie wrote:Once you move out of high sec a bil is nothing
In wormhole space and null making a billion isk or more in a day is normal.. as is losing it
... and this is what makes it so much fun! |
MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
128
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Posted - 2012.09.11 07:54:00 -
[87] - Quote
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:John Ratcliffe wrote:1 Billion ISK is nothing. I can make that in a week doing 2 missions a night after work. Sigh, another liar trying a stealth "nerf missions" ploy. 500 million a night, let's be generous and say 5 hours/ session. Sorry, no one makes 100M / hour running missions, even including LP. But nice try, thanks for playing.
There was a lvl 1 or 2 mission long time ago that dropped like 20 mil in loot from a structure before it was nerfed. So you could just fly to some agent, decline missions until you get that one or you burn the agent and then just go to another agent, repeat. That was like 200 mil/hour lol. |
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