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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 08/06/2011 08:33:00
Originally by: www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/08/interview-ccp-on-dust-514-and-eve RPS: When I first heard about the idea of DUST and EVE, I felt like there was a class structure to it. You have your upper-middle class people flying ships, and then they employ the grunts on the surface. Now, that sounds massively appealing to an EVE player, but how do you sell that to a DUST player?
Thomas: ItÆs actually not quite the case. ItÆs not a one-way relationship. The way weÆve designed it, and the way weÆve iterated on the design, is that if you have a corporation thatÆs pure mercenaries, pure DUST players, then sure, an EVE corp can say, ôI want you to go over here and destroy this guyÆs infrastructure. IÆll pay you this much to do it. And if you donÆt do it IÆm going to be kind of ****ed at you.ö But then you can also have that DUST corp load up their war barge, go to any planet, and just attack it themselves. And they can take control of that infrastructure. ThereÆs no difference between the infrastructure being deployed between the games. So a pure DUST corp can come in and just start attacking, or if itÆs a virgin planet they can deploy planetary infrastructure themselves. So theyÆre not slaves. They can be self-sufficient. But unless they cooperate theyÆll never get the full benefits, because the orbital constructions and the surface-based constructions, they do literally need to be linked to form a space elevator, to gain the maximum benefits and impact sovereignity, so that encourages players to act together.
RPS: So can you see it happening the other way around? Can a DUST corp hire an EVE corp?
Thomas: ItÆs funny, a lot of the talk has been the other way around. But thereÆs absolutely no reason why not. Right now thereÆs not an awful lot a DUST corp can do about orbital control centres and things like that. So it could go the other way.
Source: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/08/interview-ccp-on-dust-514-and-eve
HRHRHRHR.. this is getting better and better.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:22:00 -
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Detecting a new and uncharted ocean of tears, Captain.
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:25:00 -
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if dusties can produce on planets, how will they transport products to the market? in warbarges? contracts from customs? their own ships? ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon." |
Corbulo Typhonius
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Corbulo Typhonius on 08/06/2011 08:26:11 Intresting, Thing is EVE owns all the ISK ATM and since money is power EVE has all the power ATM, Untill Dust gets going for awhile they will be the underdog to begin with.
Since EVE players don't need to rely on Dust to make ISK and EVE players can be choosy with who they go with at the start Dust will be at a disadvantage till the player base and experiance of the game and it's players picks up they won't be calling the shots, That's my opinion anyways. [url=http://BIGLottery.BIG-EVE.com/][/url] |
Maximillian Dragonard
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:27:00 -
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Dust barges should be susceptible to attack by Eve pilots while transiting to/from target planets. Don't give the dusties a way to screw with Eve players without making the reverse true as well
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jagga Spikes if dusties can produce on planets, how will they transport products to the market? in warbarges? contracts from customs? their own ships?
Contracts/Storefronts on those Customs Offices at Planets?
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Dragonard Dust barges should be susceptible to attack by Eve pilots while transiting to/from target planets. Don't give the dusties a way to screw with Eve players without making the reverse true as well
They probably can't attack planets which are in a system that is tied into Sov. Interesting question how this will affect low sec PI though.. or the stuff that's going on in npc-nullsec.
As for the barge and their transit.. I'd still opt for equal footing here. So shooting them out of the sky and they not able to defend themself as you can do with npc-haulers won't work with player retention on the consoles..
So, how will this pan out realistically? The blog says they start in high sec and can work for NPC to get isk for gear to shoot each other on npc maps. What about PI installations in high sec.. can they attack those? Probably. As the attacked PI installation gets ample warning of this.. hm, how do you defend it? From space? Do you hire dusties yourself? Do you get some POS gunnery PI battlefield mode and NPC-dusties to defend your instlations?
In sov nullsec this will probably need sovereignty in space before they can attack you on the ground.
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:51:00 -
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Quote: RPS: So, if IÆm an EVE player, how is my game going to change after DUST is released?
Torfi: Well, you have the ability to be more strategic when you are conquering planets and solar systems, in nulsec. Those are the main touchpoints. Highsec carebears need not worry. The same for lowsec. The main touchpoint upon the launch of DUST, will be in nulsec, will be in sovereignty, will be in inflicting damage and destruction and death upon your enemies, destroying their infrastructure and their means to survive, either by means or scorched earth or by stealing their installations on the surfaces of planets. There will be more going on on the surfaces of planets. WeÆve introduced mechanics allowing people to manufacture goods on the planets, but planets will play a more pivotal role in sovereignty mechanics further down the line.
The bolded part seems to indicate only Eve player assets in nullsec will be under threat from Dusters.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:54:00 -
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I don't read anywhere that dusties can attack capsuleers? Their planetary stuff perhaps ...
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Takseen
Quote: RPS: So, if IÆm an EVE player, how is my game going to change after DUST is released?
Torfi: Well, you have the ability to be more strategic when you are conquering planets and solar systems, in nulsec. Those are the main touchpoints. Highsec carebears need not worry. The same for lowsec. The main touchpoint upon the launch of DUST, will be in nulsec, will be in sovereignty, will be in inflicting damage and destruction and death upon your enemies, destroying their infrastructure and their means to survive, either by means or scorched earth or by stealing their installations on the surfaces of planets. There will be more going on on the surfaces of planets. WeÆve introduced mechanics allowing people to manufacture goods on the planets, but planets will play a more pivotal role in sovereignty mechanics further down the line.
The bolded part seems to indicate only Eve player assets in nullsec will be under threat from Dusters.
"..upon launch.."
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FlameGlow
Gypsy Band
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Posted - 2011.06.08 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Takseen
The bolded part seems to indicate only Eve player assets in nullsec will be under threat from Dusters.
Not if orbital bombardment is implemented
Originally by: CCP Manifest Imploding servers are not a part of our business model.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 08/06/2011 09:01:54
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes I don't read anywhere that dusties can attack capsuleers? Their planetary stuff perhaps ...
If they got a doomsday ray surface to space attack unit on the ground as part of their PI installation and your Moros is placed in the wrong spot.. *boom* Those other hybrid thingies wobbling in the air in that teaser might be able to hurt smaller ships then too..
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.08 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes I don't read anywhere that dusties can attack capsuleers? Their planetary stuff perhaps ...
If they got a doomsday ray surface to space attack unit on the ground as part of their PI installation and your Moros is placed in the wrong spot.. *boom* Those other hybrid thingies wobbling in the air in that teaser might be able to hurt smaller ships then too ..
But that hasn't been confirmed at all thus far, just like the orbital bombardment stuff from the vid or atmospheric flight, it may be just for the show?!
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Grimpak
Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.08 09:58:00 -
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you know, this is actually quite nice ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.08 10:04:00 -
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I really loved this interview, thanks for posting it (I need to start following RPS's feed again). It gives a bit more insight into the actual gameplay of Dust514 as well as CCP's decision to go PS3 exclusive (a smart one). ~Gnosis~ |
Jagga Spikes
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.08 10:04:00 -
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it doesn't really matter. if they can shoot us, we can shoot them, too. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon." |
The Old Chap
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Posted - 2011.06.08 11:09:00 -
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Balancing will be the main issue, ffs it's hard enough just within this one game, let alone across two.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.06.08 11:22:00 -
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Quote: ...upper-middle class people flying ships
Don't these peasants know we are immortals who bend empires to our will.
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ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.08 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 08/06/2011 11:30:13
Quote: Thomas: .. You create your own role on the battlefield. And the possibilities, the ways of doing that, are endless. Endlessly terrifying to our QA department.
Harhar, don¦t we all know! Love it.
Quote: Thomas: We have, much like EVE û in fact exactly like EVE! û we have different security levels. We have high security, low security, and nulsec, where anything goes... When youÆre in highsec we have NPC generated battles, so youÆll always be able to find a battle, youÆre able to grind and get money, but without being exposed to the depth building an infrastructure on the surface of planets, things like that... But thereÆs always matches rolling in highsec.
So Dusties will get the same lvl1-4 treadmill like EVE highsec runners?
Guys, please don¦t!
Or at least dump the good lvl4 stuff in the Faction War zones, so that you have a reason to finally upgrade that forgotten content too!
Also this begs the question, do Dust characters and corps then get personal security ratings? And can they "gank" other bases in highsec without wardec and thus loose it? Or loose sec¦rating through committing atrocities? ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak *snip*
Also this begs the question, do Dust characters and corps then get personal security ratings? And can they "gank" other bases in highsec without wardec and thus loose it? Or loose sec¦rating through committing atrocities?
I wanna see Concord for that one.. LOL!
PS: Do these marines take drugs? Please CCP, please.. let them do drugs/boosters.. I beg you!
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.08 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Llyandrian
Quote: ...upper-middle class people flying ships
Don't these peasants know we are immortals who bend empires to our will.
Dusters are also immortal, if I recall correctly. Its used as a means to justify their constant respawning, I guess.
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Amber Accelerando
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Posted - 2011.06.08 12:40:00 -
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if all 214 ppl that actually own a PS3 start a corp & play dust 24/7 think of the damage they could do!
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Not-Apsalar
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Accelerando if all 214 ppl that actually own a PS3 start a corp & play dust 24/7 think of the damage they could do!
Derp.
PS3 50million sold by end of Q1 '11 360 53million sold by end of Q1 '11
MS includes purchases of people replacing out of warranty RROD units in those numbers, which at one time accounted for a huge percentage units, so unique sales for PS3 are likely outstripping 360 already.
At worst, sales are already at parity, so kindly go back to your cave and shut up.
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Ayieka
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:39:00 -
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so basically, CCP is going to let loose a million tiny pirates that can ruin all of our PI? |
One01011
Gallente Creampie Surprise P I R A T E S
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:45:00 -
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I say every single one of us buys a Moros, equips it for orbital bombardment, and spawnkill everyone!
Or, buy up every single mercenary out there for 1 isk each. THEN bombard them from space! |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ayieka so basically, CCP is going to let loose a million tiny pirates that can ruin all of our PI?
I wonder how will I be able to deal with it.
Oh wait: I don't do PI.
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Tagera
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: One01011 I say every single one of us buys a Moros, equips it for orbital bombardment, and spawnkill everyone!
Or, buy up every single mercenary out there for 1 isk each. THEN bombard them from space!
Finally....we'd have a purpose for all those Kameiras, Militia people, and whatever other types of passengers we keep picking up in all those missions. I don't have many myself because I got sick of stacks of people living in my hangar like a bunch of homeless people. They made it smell funny...
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ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.08 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: ivar R'dhak *snip*
Or loose sec¦rating through committing atrocities?
I wanna see Concord for that one.. LOL!
Oh, that¦s easy. Dusties will have to fly through space too, without a pod BTW.
Hmm, without a constantly connected pod they might smuggle through. So those contraband patrols would be actually good for something. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Captian Conrad
Minmatar Empyrean Warriors
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Posted - 2011.06.08 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Captian Conrad on 08/06/2011 14:04:10
Originally by: Tres Farmer So, how will this pan out realistically? The blog says they start in high sec and can work for NPC to get isk for gear to shoot each other on npc maps.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.08 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Tres Farmer on 08/06/2011 14:14:21
Originally by: Ayieka so basically, CCP is going to let loose a million tiny pirates that can ruin all of our PI?
I had to giggle at that one. It sounds so funny
Originally by: Captian Conrad Edited by: Captian Conrad on 08/06/2011 14:04:10
Originally by: Tres Farmer So, how will this pan out realistically? The blog says they start in high sec and can work for NPC to get isk for gear to shoot each other on npc maps.
DO i Smell a FW boost?
Would be nice to have them tied into that one as well..
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