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Kithrus Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.13 17:57:00 - [1] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 13/06/2011 17:44:40 Originally by: Rodj Blake Essentially your argument is "I'm right, because I say I am." No, that would be the Amarrian argument. I'm right because my view happens to be based on reality, not the other way around. Originally by: Valerie Valate Going back to the analogy I used previously, Andreus is a bird telling a fish that they should be ashamed at not being a bird, and should end their existence, because fish cannot fly, and being a bird is the only existence worth living. No, actually, I'm an albatross telling a whale that there's no such thing as giant space whales and would they kindly stop trying to eat all the fish who don't believe in giant space wh... Give me a minute, that metaphor didn't really work very well. I find it an interesting point that Andreus Ixiris feels people who believe in religion are insane where as us who believe in a God or other deity just think hes wrong. Who sounds less tolerant?
Kithrus Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:27:00 - [2] Edited by: Kithrus on 14/06/2011 16:29:09 Edited by: Kithrus on 14/06/2011 16:28:35 Originally by: Andreus Ixiris So what happens if you believe in God all your life, and have thusly restricted yourself from a more fulfilling, enjoyable life, and he doesn't exist? You've wasted the only life you have. Or what, pray tell, will you do if you happened to believe in the wrong god? Heres how I see it when I have my moments of doubt: If God is there he respects my efforts though tiny in the big picture. He is after willing hearts and doesn't ask me to succeed but to serve. If God is not there I'd like to think I helped make the cluster a better place before I go. One does not need to enjoy ones life for it to be full with meaning. Many people take suffering onto themselves to make others happy. If its the wrong god then well.... if this deity is Benevolent then he/she will understand. If the deity in question is selfish and evil he/she/it what have you, will not care for me in any case served or otherwise. So far logic dictates the odds are in my favor so I'm not worried about it.
Kithrus Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:38:00 - [3] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Kithrus Heres how I see it when I have my moments of doubt: If God is there he respects my efforts though tiny in the big picture. He is after willing hearts and doesn't ask to me succeed but to serve. You can't know that. Originally by: Kithrus If God is not there I'd like to think I helped make the cluster a better place before I go. By assisting in the destruction of other cultures and the objectification of entire races of human beings? Originally by: Kithrus If its the wrong god then well.... if this deity is Benevolent then he/she will understand. If the deity in question is selfish and evil he/she it what have you will not care for me in any case served of otherwise. So far logic dictates the odds are in my favor so I'm not worried about it. There are dozens of Gods and gods out there - you only worship one of them, and there is of course the possibility (or, rather, the reality) that none of them exist after all. That doesn't stack the odds very high in your favour. I did just finish telling you if God is not there what I feel on the matter. Also I did not pretend to endorse genocide or partake in it. Also I can know God is there because in the above example we are assuming her is the amarrian one. Add to that if there was a all power deity that wanted us to follow its teachings I belive it has every reason to play fair and keep us enough in the loop. So you'd rather I just give up? You haven't given up on your pointless belifes why should I do so for mine which are rooted in history and faith instead of blind specculation or racial accusations.
Kithrus Amarr Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.14 17:02:00 - [4] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: Kithrus So you'd rather I just give up? Honestly? Yes. Originally by: Kithrus You haven't given up on your pointless belifes My beliefs forged a society that achieved the same level of advancement in five hundred years that it took your society more than fourfold that time to accomplish. A society that matches the military strength of yours blow-for-blow (or, in some cases, vastly exceeds it) even though it's drastically smaller. Pointless? Progress. Originally by: Kithrus faith instead of blind specculation Same thing. Listen you argue that the day you can put god under a microscoop you will belive. I tell you if that days ever comes I'll join the federation. And if you can understand that statement I'm not sure why you bother.

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