First

What's an Augoror? You can't just make up ships that don't exist. That's not a thing you can do. I've never heard of any "Augoror". >:(

Stabber and Vagabond look excellent. Winter expansion complete.

(I'm also very curious about how you will revamp the Scythe)

Please ccp don't make all the attack ships some terrible kiting sheit..

Give the thorax a rep bonus or something? then it can be fast and pew close range?



Other then that everything looks brilliant, although i am not really fuzzed about the "Making every ship a mini-battleship of some sort" Its a bit of a silly statement since well.. The difference in how a cruiser and a BS flies is so wast it becomes a bit odd..


The concept art for the vaga looks brilliant though, too bad it has the same problem as all the other HAC's.. BC's are cheaper and better.

will you guys fix/balance navy faction frigates/cruisers to?

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these changes looks awesome btw

The revamps are awesome and all... but please please please do not forget to update the ship descriptions. For many ships they already make little sense compared to the actual role and strong points and with these changes it is only going to get worse.

And, sure, new players can have fun in these ships, but they will be highly confused to pick a combat ship which primary role is described to be mining.

With cruisers not sucking any more, logi cruisers and the like, is it possible that the new FW complex layout (rookie, minor, medium, large) that the idea to have a medium hold all T2 cruisers and below had this rebalance in mind?

So, what about the scythe fleet issue, osprey navy issue, exequror navy issue, augoror navy issue?

Just don't let the arbitrator become sad, it should always be happy.

My friends have voiced some concern about the direction the balance of the game is taking with the upcoming changes to ship hulls. Increasingly, it's looking as though the balancing game is being played with particular load-outs for ships in mind, turning the Rock-Paper-Scissors game into one based around your choice of ship, without leaving opportunities to innovate in a ship's load-outs.

To a certain extent, I agree.

Part of the old design schema of Eve Online was that every tech 1 ship received minor bonuses towards particular rolls, and it was up to the myriad equipment/modules/skills available to the player to get something good out of the hull, rather than a predetermined optimum serving as the balancing benchmark. It's not an easy approach, by any stretch, but it did keep things interesting. By placing each ship into a designated roll, with designated fits and designed goals in mind when creating them, the risk is run that people won't have a chance to figure out any clever ways to use a hull outside of the vision chosen by the game designers.

Will there be steps taken in the allocation of slots, grid, CPU, and other attributes to force players to make compromises in the loadout and capabilities of their hulls, such as limiting the amount of CPU or Grid that they have so that players will find themselves asking "if only I could fit a 1600mm plate instead of an 800 while keeping these large guns..." and other such questions?

As I see your progress (and applaud the good work), I stare into the crystal ball and run into an interesting road block: Industrials. I am very interested to see how you tackle those. Most especially Gallente is designed around tiers. If I were to throw out an idea that I am sure someone else must have come up with: Make the industrials modular so that there is only one hull but you can put on different subsystems. One for max capacity, one for higher warp speed, one for more agility and one for more resists/hp. At best, they would not quite match T2s but they could be close.