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Tabbie Te'Jir	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:08:00 - [1] We have small freighters. We have large freighters. Where is the mid-range size freighters? How about a freighter that can haul somewhere in the neighborhood of 320,000 m/3?
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:09:00 - [2] +1 want!
Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:10:00 - [3] not entirely sure but... Orca? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - OLD FORUM I ♥ YOU, NEVER LEAVE ME AGAIN!
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:12:00 - [4] Jump freighters can carry that much. I think we have plenty of cargo ship options for now.
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Jump freighters can carry that much. I think we have plenty of cargo ship options for now. Jump freighters are a totally different spieces, I want a t1 workhorse for transport, not some jump .. thing that uses jump fuel.
Jandice Ymladris Caldari dark influence	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:17:00 - [6] Think we got plenty of cargospace options currently. The industrials cover up to 20K (and more if you pimp them) easy. The Orca gets 50K cargo +30K corphangar +500K shipbay loadout, wich is good. And then you got the freighters, hauling 600K-700K so should be good. Prices are also nicely divided: Industrials: cheap (for the amount they can carry) Orca's: average +- 350 mill and Freighetrs go for about little less then a bill I think? So all priceclasses are covered as well. -------------- Cleaning up wrecks others leave behind! Got to keep space clean!
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:18:00 - [7] no We have the following ships Haulers Orca Jump Freighters and T1 Freighters Get a clue k? thxs ------------------------------------
Tabbie Te'Jir	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:21:00 - [8] Edited by: Tabbie Te''Jir on 14/06/2011 15:21:42 Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Jump freighters can carry that much. I think we have plenty of cargo ship options for now. That is a specialized ship and kinda spendy for simply hauling freight. We have very few freighters actually when compared with all other types of ships, and mid-ranged are non-existent in that unless you go JUMP freighter - (which is overkill for a lot of freighter pilots). It would be nice to get a hauler that is mid-sized that doesn't cost a billion ISK.
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:23:00 - [9] Originally by: northwesten no We have the following ships Haulers Orca Jump Freighters and T1 Freighters Get a clue k? thxs Orcas don't have that much extra cargospace compared to an Itty V, especially if you don't want to transport a perfect mix of ore, ships and other stuff to make optimum use of the 3 hangars. We need a non-jumpdrive ship with 150-300k free cargospace. If this was anything realistic some manufcaturer would have already designed such a ship. It's completely silly that it's still not in the game.
Zaxix Black Frog Logistics Red-Frog	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:24:00 - [10] I see this topic every so often. Take a look at the skill tree for the current haulers. Note that to get into transports/freighters you have to have racial industrials to 5. Note that the basic haulers are set on skill levels based on the industrials level. Where on the skill tree would this mid-range freighter go? Also, since you can get into a freighter in about 2 weeks, what's the problem with just getting into a freighter?
Tabbie Te'Jir	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Zaxix I see this topic every so often. Take a look at the skill tree for the current haulers. Note that to get into transports/freighters you have to have racial industrials to 5. Note that the basic haulers are set on skill levels based on the industrials level. Where on the skill tree would this mid-range freighter go? Also, since you can get into a freighter in about 2 weeks, what's the problem with just getting into a freighter? Huh? It is easily doable and can fit into the training schedule. Plus, the current freighters in game are all small? There is no mid-range hauler...they are all either small or huge. I have been asking for this type of hauler for a very long time. It's not like some of us freighter pilots are a danger to anyone. We're not asking for a tricked out Orca or a hauler with missile bays or something. Just a nice simple mid-range sized hauler people. What is the big deal?
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Anne Arqui Orcas don't have that much extra cargospace compared to an Itty V, especially if you don't want to transport a perfect mix of ore, ships and other stuff to make optimum use of the 3 hangars. Iteron MkV with Expanded cargo hold and cargo rigs = 38,433m3 Orca with Expanded cargo hold and cargo rigs = 74,171 + 40,000 (Corp bay) = 114,171 Thats without the ore hold or ship bay factored in.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:35:00 - [13] Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 15:36:22 Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 15:36:22 Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them. WTB Transport ship with 175k cargo capacity. --------
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:39:00 - [15] Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 15:39:54 Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 15:36:22 Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them. WTB Transport ship with 175k cargo capacity. How about not being such greedy lazy player? You all started with the same skills as me, same ISK as me, I can fly a Freighter, I can afford a Freighter, I am not a hauler, but I have one sitting around. Why can't YOU?
Ana Vyr	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:39:00 - [16] How about increasing the cargo space of deep space transports? Currently, I can get a fair bit more junk in my Itty 5 than in my Bustard...and the Bustard is a t2 hauler. I realize the original purpose of the DS Transport ships was to help with getting transporting done in lowsec/nullsec with the built in +2 warp stabilization (which they didn't used to have), but I find that I use my Crane (blockade runner) almost exclusively for this leaving my poor old Bustard kinda without a job.
Tabbie Te'Jir	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Miilla Edited by: Miilla on 14/06/2011 15:36:22 Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them. A simple Bestower can haul as much as any t2, what's your point? Do you have anything to add to the convo. No t2 currently in game can haul 320k m/3 - none. Even t2's are limited to under 30k m/3. That is small.
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:43:00 - [18] Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Miilla Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them. WTB Transport ship with 175k cargo capacity. How about not being such greedy lazy player? You all started with the same skills as me, same ISK as me, I can fly a Freighter, I can afford a Freighter, I am not a hauler, but I have one sitting around. Why can't YOU? Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Miilla Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them. WTB Transport ship with 175k cargo capacity. How about not being such greedy lazy player? You all started with the same skills as me, same ISK as me, I can fly a Freighter, I can afford a Freighter, I am not a hauler, but I have one sitting around. Why can't YOU? Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between. So buy a blueprint and make one cheaper. Manufacturing IS part of the game. Why don't you have the ISK? You all started with the same as me (some probably better off than when I started), yet I seem to have more ISK than all the whiners put together. Try changing how you play eve?
Tabbie Te'Jir	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Miilla Tech 2 Transporters http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Transport_Ship Learn to fly them. WTB Transport ship with 175k cargo capacity. How about not being such greedy lazy player? You all started with the same skills as me, same ISK as me, I can fly a Freighter, I can afford a Freighter, I am not a hauler, but I have one sitting around. Why can't YOU? Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between. Don't worry about Miilla she spams and trolls any topic that is not of interest to her it seems.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:47:00 - [21] Originally by: Anne Arqui Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between. What about the Orca? Properly fitted it has about 100,000m3 to 120,000m3 of cargospace.
Captain Megadeath	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:48:00 - [22] Edited by: Captain Megadeath on 14/06/2011 15:48:49 Originally by: Anne Arqui Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between. What? Something that can haul around say..... 114,171m3 total cargo or 165,000m3 of ore
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Anne Arqui Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between. What about the Orca? Properly fitted it has about 100,000m3 to 120,000m3 of cargospace. But it's still a mining thing (you even need Mining Barge V and Mining Foreman V to fly one) and I'm traumatized by mining .. I want to stay away as far from everything related to mining as possible. Brrrr!
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Anne Arqui Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Anne Arqui Now come on, they're expensive, sluggy and way too big .. I don't need an Oil Tanker and not a van either. Something in between. What about the Orca? Properly fitted it has about 100,000m3 to 120,000m3 of cargospace. But it's still a mining thing (you even need Mining Barge V and Mining Foreman V to fly one) and I'm traumatized by mining .. I want to stay away as far from everything related to mining as possible. Brrrr! Then no mid-range freighter for you. Cry on.
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.14 15:54:00 - [25] Edited by: Anne Arqui on 14/06/2011 15:54:47 Originally by: Miilla Originally by: Anne Arqui But it's still a mining thing (you even need Mining Barge V and Mining Foreman V to fly one) and I'm traumatized by mining .. I want to stay away as far from everything related to mining as possible. Brrrr! Then no mid-range freighter for you. Cry on. :cries: you're just mean because I'm Vherokior ..
Eirene Astrum	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:16:00 - [26] With the appropriate skills at level 5, an Orca has about 123,000m3 of cargo capacity when equipped with cargo rigs and expanders. Add to that the ship maintenance array and the ore hold and I'd say that close enough to a mid range freighter. It works great when you don't need the 900,000m3 or so that a Charon provides. Personally, I'd rather see them introduce T3 mining ships.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Eirene Astrum With the appropriate skills at level 5, an Orca has about 123,000m3 of cargo capacity when equipped with cargo rigs and expanders. Add to that the ship maintenance array and the ore hold and I'd say that close enough to a mid range freighter. It works great when you don't need the 900,000m3 or so that a Charon provides. Personally, I'd rather see them introduce T3 mining ships. Me too!!! Imagine the GANK tears then!
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:22:00 - [28] Originally by: Eirene Astrum Add to that the ship maintenance array and the ore hold and I'd say that close enough to a mid range freighter. which can only carry ships that have ammo, drones or charges inside, buuuut that can be worked around with. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
EightGuns Giovanni	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:24:00 - [29] The ship you are asking for will be availible in the store sometime in late August
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.06.14 16:31:00 - [30] Edited by: Mendolus on 14/06/2011 16:34:50 Originally by: Tabbie Te'Jir Originally by: Zaxix I see this topic every so often. Take a look at the skill tree for the current haulers. Note that to get into transports/freighters you have to have racial industrials to 5. Note that the basic haulers are set on skill levels based on the industrials level. Where on the skill tree would this mid-range freighter go? Also, since you can get into a freighter in about 2 weeks, what's the problem with just getting into a freighter? Huh? It is easily doable and can fit into the training schedule. Plus, the current freighters in game are all small? There is no mid-range hauler...they are all either small or huge. I have been asking for this type of hauler for a very long time. It's not like some of us freighter pilots are a danger to anyone. We're not asking for a tricked out Orca or a hauler with missile bays or something. Just a nice simple mid-range sized hauler people. What is the big deal? Did you actually read his question? Somehow I think not. There is no sense in more haulers... it takes about a month to get into a freighter and have decent navigation skills if you hit the ground running, CCP would have to actually add more skills and make a T2 Mid-Range freighter that would likely cost a fortune (relatively speaking) and take months to train to. Then you and people like you would begin ceaseless whining that it takes too long to train. Some people... Excluding navigation skills based on ship role or capability, these are the base requirements for industrial ships and freighter classes in the game, based on Gallente for argument's sake, because of the Iteron V caveat: Gallente Industrial Gallente Frigate III Spaceship Command III Gallente Industrial V Gallente Freighter Gallente Frigate III Spaceship Command V Advanced Spaceship Command I Gallente Industrial V Gallente Freighter I Jump Freighter Gallente Frigate III Spaceship Command V Advanced Spaceship Command I Gallente Industrial V Gallente Freighter IV Industry V Advanced Spaceship Command IV Jump Freighters I I highlighted the points of interest in red, where you can clearly see, through simple logic, that the difference in training between an Iteron V and Gallente Freighter is Spaceship Command V and oh... about an hour of additional training? So, tell us again, where does a mid-range freighter fit in if it is to be T1? and if it is T2, where will it fit versus the Jump Freighter, whose core skills only differ from a normal Freighter by about a week or two of training to IVs in two skills? You want CCP to automagically come up with new "Fancy freighter skills!" ? They already did that with the Orca which has a max capacity of +145k when you factor in the corporate hangar, plus a FFA ship bay to boot, (compare to 300k for JF, i.e. where is this supposed 'missing' mid range freighter you are yapping about again?), so go buy one, and quit yer griping. Kthxbai --------------------------------- It seems quoting the CSM minutes in your signature is inappropriate content! Hurr hurr.

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