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Veshta Yoshida
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Posted - 2012.09.11 17:32:00 -
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How in the world did a Gallente T1 ship end up with more low-slots than its Amarr counterpart? Wouldn't that Exeq low be more appropriate as a high?
Bloodpetal wrote:#1 - Are you concerned about someone putting a MONO-Large Remote Repper on these?
An Exequror can fit a Large Remote rep, which with your bonuses would mean it can reach 84km and with L5 skills do 1.75x a large repper which is equal to 4 unbonused medium reps I believe.....
So you gain ~30km range at the expense of only being able to assist a single target at a time with less repping power than you would using mediums .. if people are willing to make those sacrifices then peace be with them 
Pinky Denmark wrote:Plz make it possible to fit these ships 100% for combat if you should want to...
I'll second that. Hate sitting in a Guardian for that reason, sure it can be challenging but for the most part it is just clicking a button once in a while .. would love for a combat fit to be viable, doesn't need damage bonuses, just ability to mount the hardware.
Alekseyev Karrde wrote:To all the "CSM isn't doing anything" crowd:...
You probably are doing something, just hard to judge for the most part. 
As for taking credit for the Logistics Frigs .. I take it you were either lobbying for them 5+ years ago or in FW a few weeks after it launched when we started clamouring for and discussing the possibilty?
Either way, unless the CSM has a direct hand in CCP's HR department and a vote in who they should hire then you have had very little to do with the progress so far (as far as can be seen from the bleachers) .. seems like getting the Fozzman on-board is what has made the whole thing possible ... just sayin'
PS: Politicking in these threads are extremely bad form, you should be ashamed. Hope the ISD nerfs your entries!
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
283
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Posted - 2012.09.12 05:45:00 -
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Kind of off-topic, but since there are so many 'meh' exclamations regarding secondary bonuses on Scythe/Exequror perhaps cooking up a new eWar system is the way to go (recycle of 5-6 year old idea):
Mass Packet Ejector:
By chipping off shards from a contained singularity and ejecting them through a gauss array, the relative mass of a hostile ship can be increased. Effect is temporary as the ejected mini-singularities evaporate over time.
- Increases mass of target ship by XX%, that and range, fitting, etc. can be assigned as necessary.
- Can be set to use cap charges as ammo (compress it to feed singularity, duh!), similar to the much loved ASB.
NB: Figure that a double hit should be approx. equivalent to a 1600 plate or so.
If Scythe/Exequror are to be the faster options designed for small gang action, then the ability to slow an enemy down from afar ... all is of course moot if CCP already has a plan being worked on to re-do the eWar in Eve in which case an "old" bonus would suffice |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
283
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Posted - 2012.09.12 09:35:00 -
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Another alternative to scoffed at secondary bonuses on Scythe/Exequror:
Bonuses to remote hull repairers.
Again, ties into the concept of the Gallente/Minmatar logistics designed to support roams and/or smaller gangs. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
284
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Posted - 2012.09.13 07:54:00 -
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What are the primary clients of these things supposed to be?
The logistics frigates have a very clear, albeit narrow, defined role by having enough to matter for frigs/dessies but not enough for larger hulls.
T2 logistics cruisers have enough for everything up to but not including capitals.
T1 logistics cruisers will have same client pool as the T2 versions .. .. why not reduce repped amount a bit to focus them more on cruisers/BCs to set them apart from the advanced cousins?
@Barrak: Was stated that role bonuses are used in lieu of levelled ditto to make them more newbie friendly, if it was levelled then by the time you have maximized their potential (and is guaranteed a place in fleets) you might as well hop into the better T2 versions.
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
287
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Posted - 2012.09.16 10:20:00 -
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Why in heaven's name would you want to deliberately increase buffer/EHP tanking? .. it is simplistic and boooooring! 
Reg: Current low-tier Navy cruisers.
Would be sweet if they were thought to be refurbs of the stock models and retained one or two of the logistic bonuses . .range alone would be enough. Never made much sense to me that the stock is completely different from the derived hull, will be an even greater discrepancy when the stocks are given "pure" roles. |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:35:00 -
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Didn't YtterbiumGÖÑFozzie say that they are looking at options/ways to prevent the use of large RR mods except as gimmicks?
Can be done quite easily by tweaking fitting reqs for large mods and the attributes of the "proper" (read: T2) logistics as they are the intended abusers/users.
Now lets talk pigeon holes. Why must all logistics be one trick ponies? |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.10.22 13:53:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:Veshta Yoshida wrote:Didn't YtterbiumGÖÑFozzie say that they are looking at options/ways to prevent the use of large RR mods except as gimmicks? Can be done quite easily by tweaking fitting reqs for large mods and the attributes of the "proper" (read: T2) logistics as they are the intended abusers/users. Now lets talk pigeon holes. Why must all logistics be one trick ponies? They can easily prevent that by limiting the bonus on the t1 support cruisers to medium sized reppers.
Sure they could, but why utterly remove the option when such drastic measures are not needed?
Large RR has significantly lower fittings than the average BS weapon so the option will still be there for the once-in-a-blue-moon circle-jerking BS swarm even if fittings are increased .. let the T1 logistics keep the ability to use them, just not as for more than lulz/gimmick (kind of like the Heavy Neut Curse)
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Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.10.25 23:16:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Some new adjustments to help manage the option of using large reps:...
Would you mind walking me through what must be a very fascinating train of thought that brought you to that?
Issue: Possible to use large modules to considerably better effect than mediums.
Solution: Tweak requirements of mediums.
Huh!?!
Guessing that you think that by making mediums so cheap to fit that no real restrictions exist will make them preferable .. but that is not how it will play out.
The RR cruisers will see heavy use and as such will reach manufacturing cost on the market within weeks of launch, meaning cost to field them will be negligible. They will be spammable (ISK wise) in the extreme and will always "enjoy" a high attrition rate against which no amount of tank will help, but which can be alleviated by range and effect .. what was it again that large reps offered ...
Most curious |
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:21:00 -
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Sheynan wrote:...The current iteration and fits like the one posted above leave an interesting niche for logi work. But it's far from being the doom of all T2 logistics.
You are right, sort of, provided nothing else changes. Problem that I and others I suppose have is that this great post-Jita-debacle balancing overhaul is in its infancy.
What happens when TD become omni-present due to getting applied to missiles, thus nerfing all ranges everywhere?
What happens when damps are finally brought up to par and ensures that no dps ever reaches beyond 50km?
What happens when ...
You get the idea. Reason why it i important to get these things right (or as close to) in the first pass is that the bulk of stuff is yet to come and having to constantly go back to reiterate on last months changes because otherwise **** wont work in Eve is inefficient as hell ... |
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