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Nooto
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 20:48:00 -
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srsly wtf is wrong with you guys over there at CCP?
there are a ****load of developers who are spending ages of their free time inventing great services like evemon and whatnot for free wich boosts the player experience by far and all you do is to charge them 100 bucks a year?
no srsly that must be some sort of a very very very bad joke
wtf did you think about?
BEWARE!!!
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Nooto
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kronus Heilgar
You are charging people who work for free to make your game better you asshats
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Nooto
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 21:31:00 -
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still cant believe it and im stunned in what ccp has turned into
not having all those micro transactions, paying for whatnot turned eve into that special position it had amongst other games and now it completely turning into an nightmare. its insane how you're ruining such a great product. and that i tell you as a customer from very first days of eve BEWARE!!!
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Nooto
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Smoking Blunts Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 15/06/2011 21:51:25 i seam to remember a time when ccp were cool and acted like they gave a dam about this game and its customers.
today i got reminded that now days they are just milking the old cash cow before it dies
+1
so true BEWARE!!!
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Nooto
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.15 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow So, we have a wee bit of a threadnaught on our hands, gentlemen. I've been bombed with queries about this from concerned parties -- I picked a bad day to get the summer crud...
Unfortunately, CSM was not given a preview of this devblog. If we had been, these would have been my suggestions:
* Explain the real purpose of the $99 fee. I assume that it is to establish a valid contract that attempts to indemnify CCP against harm if the licensee gets sued, and/or cover the contract issuance costs for both the commercial and non-commercial licensees. If there is an overwhelming legal consideration that requires you to charge for certain types of licenses, explain this clearly.
* If the reason for the $99 fee is just to cover your licensing costs, then you are being penny-wise and pound-foolish. Each extra app that gets developed because you issue free licenses will result in much more income due to increased retention. "Do not bind the mouths of the kine that tread the grain," as it were.
* If you must charge, then:
* * Differentiate between different classes of licensee; there are probably three: those who charge a RL$ fee, those who accept RL$ donations or sell ads (especially to cover costs), and those who charge in-game fees or accept in-game donations. One price does not fit all, and arguably all but the first should be free or a token ($1).
* * Allow people to upgrade their license, so they can start developing for free, then monetize their app later.
aren't services wich are to be paid by rl cash forbidden by the EULA and TOS? BEWARE!!!
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Nooto
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Posted - 2011.06.15 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jaddar
Originally by: Nooto aren't services wich are to be paid by rl cash forbidden by the EULA and TOS?
They are. That's the whole purpose of this license, to allow payment via real life cash.
according to ccp themself it isnt
"Will I be able to charge real life currency for in game services?
No, the commercial license does not allow you to charge real life money for any in-game services." BEWARE!!!
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Nooto
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Posted - 2011.06.16 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zulu Hello all.
At the risk of sounding corporate-y, I have to say Iæm impressed and greatful for the amount of passion shown in this thread.
There are a lot of very valid points raised here. What's interesting is that most, if not all, of the issues that are being raised are because of confusing wording, terminology or misunderstandings in the draft document.
It is in no way the purpose of the program to deter or make money off 3rd party development. The core purpose is simply to have control our IP and brand and have a contract in place so we can have some form of regulation on apps and services that use the EVE name and EVE resources (API).
Itæs obvious we have to review and iterate on the contract and program as presented in the devblog since most of the points mentioned in the comments are not in line with its core purpose.
Unfortunately that will take some time and weære kind of swamped for the next couple of weeks.
So what weæll do is take a step back, harvest feedback from this thread, do an iteration pass on the contract and terms and give you an updated version before the end of summer. Until we have a license that meets our needs and your expectations we will not make any changes to our terms or enforcement thereof.
As always, your feedback is not only welcomed but in fact essential to us. Thank you.
Arnar Hrafn Gylfason Senior Producer of EVE Online
glad that you got the point BEWARE!!!
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