I just checked the plex market and all i can say, oh boy. At the time i'm posting
Jita
~200 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 512m
sell: 524m

Rens
~20 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 509m
sell: 518m

Amarr
~40 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 509m
sell: 523m

Dodixie
~30 Plex for sell alltogether at any price
buy: 509m
sell: 519m

You all know the Plex volume in Jita is roughly 2.2k per day and all other hubs combined another 1.2k. You can draw your own conclusion but Plex will be soon 1b.

Within those 5min i wrote the post
Jita
buy: 525m
sell: 544m

crazy times


and buy is climbing in 1m steps every 2-3min or so.

Edit:
The other hubs
Amarr
~40 Plex for sale are left
buy: 508m
sell: 524m

Dodixie
~20 Plex for sale are left (15 between 560m to 620m) That's what i call closed shop
buy: 506m
sell: 524m


And i'm stopping here as prices are climbing to fast.

I-Can-Has-PLEX?

It's-the-PLEX-Stupid!

PLEX!-Bring-out-your-PLEX!

I-Can-Has-PLEX?

It's-the-PLEX-Stupid!

PLEX!-Bring-out-your-PLEX!

One PLEX is now $20 US, while a monthly sub is $15 US. A PLEX costs 25% more for exactly the same service -- one month of gametime. So it's not surprising that US players at least aren't buying PLEX.

And regarding the plex at the moment, either someone with a lot of ISK bought the lot of it so the prices will push way up, and than he can dump them back to the market, or people bought for the vegas event, or a hell of a lot of ISK was just dumped into the market buy FW or null dwellers.

Trying to manipulate the Plex market is difficult as the volume and cash involved is to high but right now with the low supply it seems possible. Still i doubt it, i think it is what it is, supply is going dry.

The next weekend will be interesting.

ESSENCEtrademan boughtout all plex in essense region.
GENESIStrademan boughtout all plex in genesis region.

Feel free to continue the list while claiming there's no manipulation going on.

Oh I'm sorry, was this meant to be a secret?

I'd bet CCP's central bank will fix this before the week-end and manipulater tears will flood these forums.

On a side note, stop blaming Goons for all you dislike about this game. It's gotten old ages ago. If yer unhappy just stop playing,ya know.... do yerself the favor.

You're mentioning two fairly small regions.

Just seeding PLEX at a lower fixed Price ...

There might be point when CCP intervenes but i doubt it will be before we see much higher Plex prices.


This is just for the dudes who are crying it's to expansive, it costs to much time to grind party.
Right now at lets say 600m per Plex, you need with
- absolute stupid L4 mission grinding with no idea how to use LP, a Drake
20m/h => 30h (that's 2h for 15days) very painful but doable, still remember you can play this game for "free" after and just used your free time
(snip blah blah blah L4missions whine blah blah)

Oh come on stop talking about blaming L4 missions veteran mains with 8 day old speed tanked alts are making 20+ billion a month in FW Winmitar complexes. They went tier 5 again last weekend & we're seeing the PLEX spkie brcause of it.
The PvE designers need to take a class which explains the definition of a Monty Haul campaign.
At least with Incursions you had to have 3 month's plus o trianing to get in a legion or logistic then had to find a fleet and incursions paid what 1/4 what these speedtank alts are making a month?

No to mention all the other better methods of earning ISK in EVE. It is still to easy to get ISK in EVE and i think the Plex price is reflecting that.

ESSENCEtrademan boughtout all plex in essense region.
GENESIStrademan boughtout all plex in genesis region.

Feel free to continue the list while claiming there's no manipulation going on.

Oh I'm sorry, was this meant to be a secret?

I'd bet CCP's central bank will fix this before the week-end and manipulater tears will flood these forums.

On a side note, stop blaming Goons for all you dislike about this game. It's gotten old ages ago. If yer unhappy just stop playing,ya know.... do yerself the favor.

This will kill off CCP's ability to sell PLEX, as there would be little to no reason for players to purchase PLEX from other players, and with that part of the equation killed off, there is no point purchasing PLEX with RL money, thus killing off a source of income for CCP.

My tinfoil hat suspicion is that enough RMT botrings got busted that this is the result.

If you really stop to think about it.

PLEX prices even at +575,000,000 isk is not really out of line considering the inflation the EVE economy has experienced recently.

For as long as I can remember, aside from a few temp fluctuations, PLEX price has always been about half the cost of a freighter.

When PLEX was selling for just over 300 mil each a freighter was worth a little over 600 mil.

freighters right now are sitting between 1.2 and 1.5 bil. So PLEX could be sitting at 600-750 mil before things level out.

never thought I would ever see PLEX that high.

Edit,
Make that over 1.6 bil for a freighter right now in Jita. Even buy orders are at 1.5-1.6 bil.

how the hell did that happen? I thought 1.2 bil for a freighter was crazy high.

I always wondered why CCP don't factor NPC rewards in with game inflation.

As Bugsy pointed out (even if a bit simply), prices of T1 equipment in a lot of cases has doubled in less than a year. Plex prices have increased, as has the cost of virtually everything else. The only thing that hasn't gone up is the ISK reward for NPC bounties and rewards.

well PLEX supplies in Jita are rising and the 0.01 isking is driving prices down.

I think I saw it hit a high of 574 mil lowest sell. now there are almost 40 under 570 mil

20.37 Well over 40 now with prices dropping fast.

Glad I cashed out at 572 mil.

20.42 over 50 under 570 mil and prices still diving. several under 568 mil.

20.45 some bellow 565 mil and dropping really fast. supplies still rising.

looks like it is over. hope someone got rich.

Why is nobody thinking the obvious ....... CCP are BEHIND the escalation of PLEX prices.

Why is everyone assuming that CCP will step in on behalf and will lower the value of PLEX?

Why is nobody thinking the obvious ....... CCP are BEHIND the escalation of PLEX prices.

Check history of plex prices. CCP has a PLEX "Sale" and reduces the RL cost of PLEX for a limited time. Let's say 100 idiots buy the 30 plex or whatever number it is and then the rest buy the smaller packages. These players are obviously not buying them for game time as it would be cheaper to just sub. So that's a minimum of 3,000 plex floated onto the market immediately. Supply is exceeding now demand and the price goes down on any market under these conditions right? Wrong!

Prior to, during and in a lot of cases just after (like this one) a money for plex sale the price of plex has rocketed. Not once not twice every single time!

Why? Pretty obvious .... it's a cash injection to CCP but who in their right mind is going to buy plex at 400 million isk when they have seen the price at 500 per? They wouldn't so the market needs manipulating by the developer to push the price high to get those people buying.
Unfortunately they started the Catch 22 and now it is out of control. It wasn't that long ago plex were 330 mill (plex "sales" weren't as often or as advertised as heavily as they are now. Coincidence I think not!) but by actually stepping in and raising by buying the price has to keep going up because the sales will not work on the next occasion unless the isk price per plex is at least as good as it was before. People will simply wait until the next sale or the one after indefinitely.

There will be naysayers and trolls on this but give it some thought and do some research on plex price history and it really works out. The biggest problem with artificially controlling what is supposed to be a free market is that you have to trust that the coders and people in charge are competent enough to be able to stabilise the market again after the sale ............. oh wait we are talking about the same guys who tried to sneak MT through the backdoor, took 6 months to get incursions right then had to redress them because people were earning too much isk, rewrote our boot.ini and managed to publish an official video of the remodeled Drake with 8 launchers on it. Forget the competency bit.

I always wondered why CCP don't factor NPC rewards in with game inflation.

As Bugsy pointed out (even if a bit simply), prices of T1 equipment in a lot of cases has doubled in less than a year. Plex prices have increased, as has the cost of virtually everything else. The only thing that hasn't gone up is the ISK reward for NPC bounties and rewards.

A spike to 700m may show CCP a bump in PLEX sales, but when the price goes back down below 500m, all those people are just going to be waiting for the next spike before they buy again. CCP wouldn't really end up ahead, they'd just be messing with the pattern of PLEX purchases, creating new bumps and dips. Which doesn't serve them at all, if they like revenue streaming in on a consistent, predictable basis.

I find your lack of PLEX disturbing.

My favorite in the thread is the airplane one

I got lots of PLEX but in the end inflation means no one really wins.

About time a very large entity had a go at PLEX manipulation, gl.

If you really stop to think about it.

PLEX prices even at +575,000,000 isk is not really out of line considering the inflation the EVE economy has experienced recently.

For as long as I can remember, aside from a few temp fluctuations, PLEX price has always been about half the cost of a freighter.

When PLEX was selling for just over 300 mil each a freighter was worth a little over 600 mil.

freighters right now are sitting between 1.2 and 1.5 bil. So PLEX could be sitting at 600-750 mil before things level out.

never thought I would ever see PLEX that high.

Edit,
Make that over 1.6 bil for a freighter right now in Jita. Even buy orders are at 1.5-1.6 bil.

how the hell did that happen? I thought 1.2 bil for a freighter was crazy high.

This is exactly what I said and I believe. I don't think you need a tinfoil hat you just need a reality check and to lose a bit of confidence. Those same players you are talking about with MT DID boycott the game and protest and all because CCP couldn't, between their collective brain cells, anticipate the reaction and/or the effects from it which suggests either client-base complacency, sheer lack of intelligence (my pick) or a throw sh&% at the wall and see if it sticks attitude.
So back to PLEX, why shouldn't they evoke the same attitude or have the same lack of intelligence??

If you read my text properly what I'm suggesting is that the brain cell they are sharing doesn't have the foresight to see the repercussions of manipulating the market it just goes ahead and does it and then worries about it later. It's been this way for almost everything from the beginning, is now and ever shall be, AMEN!

Where's all the NULL SECCers blaming the price of PLEX on Incursioners?!?!?! Oh I know where they are they are farming FW complexes with 8 day old speedtank alts!

Ah another DarthNefaius incursion post, didn't see that coming

His real name is JarJarNefarious and all his posts are copy-pasted from Star Wars:The Phantom Menace script.

Oh come on stop talking about blaming L4 missions veteran mains with 8 day old speed tanked alts are making 20+ billion a month in FW Winmitar complexes. They went tier 5 again last weekend & we're seeing the PLEX spkie brcause of it.
The PvE designers need to take a class which explains the definition of a Monty Haul campaign.
At least with Incursions you had to have 3 month's plus o trianing to get in a legion or logistic then had to find a fleet and incursions paid what 1/4 what these speedtank alts are making a month?

A lot of people argue that CCP has an incentive to boost PLEX prices because the higher the amount of ISK they can be exchanged for, the more players who will supposedly want to purchase them. And yet, one could make a similar argument that CCP has an interest in keeping PLEX prices stable, and tamping down on market volatility, because players will be more likely to purchase PLEX when they feel like they basically know what they'll be able to get for them at any given time. A spike to 700m may show CCP a bump in PLEX sales, but when the price goes back down below 500m, all those people are just going to be waiting for the next spike before they buy again. CCP wouldn't really end up ahead, they'd just be messing with the pattern of PLEX purchases, creating new bumps and dips. Which doesn't serve them at all, if they like revenue streaming in on a consistent, predictable basis.

One could even say, that low prices on PLEX is best for CCP.
Cause a player willing to pay real $ for ISK, would need to buy more PLEX for his needs of ISK to be saturated.

After a PLEX enters the game one of 3 things happen to it: It stays in game, it gets destroyed, or it gets used for game time..

One could even say, that low prices on PLEX is best for CCP.
Cause a player willing to pay real $ for ISK, would need to buy more PLEX for his needs of ISK to be saturated.

Also there is an odd effect: an increase in PLEX price can result in reduced purchases for RM. Say you want to buy a 3 billion ISK item and you want to get the ISK via PLEX. If the PLEX is at 500 million, you buy 6 of them. But if its at 600 million, you only buy 5. Higher the price the fewer you need.

It is all very perplexing.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/newsFromEve.asp?newsTitle=account-management-disabled-temporarily

...meaning that you can't action GTC trades for the time being.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to consider buying in game PLEX.

Just flew 30 jumps out of my way to spend 20 million ISK less on a PLEX out of protest.

A plex 100 jumps into red null sec in an undockable station has the exact same value and usefulness as a plex in Jita 4-4. When will people learn this?

(snip)
Caldari just had a LP dump today. Minmatards had theres friday. Most farmers had well over 2mil lp from last dump (last month) alone. This is why you see implant prices drop and CNR's BPC's going for 170 mil right now. CNR used to cost 550-700mil, now there 330.

I barely do plexs in FW and I made over a bil this month with only 275k LP. People are using there isk to buy up plexs in huge amounts. So with all the extra isk in FW expect the Plex to hit 1 billion by next month.

Yeah, it is going to be interesting the closer christmas is coming. Maybe i should make a public bet about PLEX price reaching 1b (at least 900m sell orders) about christmas

It lasted long enough for me to close my position at 640m. I'm looking forward to seeing what price I can buy back in at.

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It usually takes 3-4 days after a FW tier 5 dump for the corresponding PLEX spike ( if I am correct in my hypothesis that FW tier 5's are the main PLEX price inflation driver ), i guessbecause they gotta sell the LP shineys, so expect Wednesday or Thursday to see PLEX jump from ~560-570 million to ~610-630 million. There is also a mid week hump day spike I guess because most peeps buy PLEX for the weekends & sell then.

It'd take at least 2-3 months I believe then to push PLEX to a billion so I am dounting it'll happen before a Winter NERF of FW

It looks like I'm getting a second run at it then.

Jita Sell: 662m
Jita Buy: 640m

CCP ran out of PLEX stockpiled to restrain the market is my guess.

Can someone explain to this ****** (me) Why plex prices are so high?(Eve Mail or Forum) I remember last year when I started plaything they sold for around 400mil. Thanks.