It seems like your FCs deploy the "Badhacs" more often than anything else. Would you say that was your primary tool?

At this point, yes. It allows us to fight outnumbered and also bombers donGÇÖt really cause an issue because of the low signature radius the Zealots have.

So you are saying that you intentionally broke the agreement knowing that you would lose your lucrative technetium moons and sov holdings because you guys were bored and wanted to exit fighting the GÇ£good fightGÇ¥ instead of simply abandoning your space?

Yep. Well, "bored" might be the wrong word. It was more because we had had enough of dealing with CFCGÇÖs rules regarding PVP and the OTEC agreement.



The alternative narrative that some of your members have fielded was that Super Twinkey69 was being overly aggressive in looking for a fight but that you had no intention of breaking the agreement. In fact, your original statement at the beginning of the war stated that you thought the CFC was contriving a reason to say you had broken OTEC so as to have a reason to attack you. Can you clarify this for me?

The CFC was looking for a reason to attack us, in my opinion. They contacted Ev0ke and asked them to pick a side and there were other clues an attack was coming. We held a CEO meeting and people no longer wanted to be tied to space. We had a large amount of isk to support a 1600 man alliance and agreed to say GÇ£**** the tech.GÇ¥ That night we dropped on the FCON tech moon [the incident that sparked the current conflict]. Unfortunately, it was a horrible attempt on our part and we died in a fire.

Wow a CFC member not bitching that people aren't willing to throw small fleets into your infinite drake machine.

DOTbros always give good fights when numbers are even,
/FLAME SUIT ON

I have not been in an even fight since this started. We are always outnumbered. Its you, CFC, that wont undock for even fights. Unless you mean every 1 of the DotBros is worth 3 CFC pilots. Then you could say its been even fights.

I like the part where NC admits to breaking the agreement, i remember quite some extensive spinning on the subject on eve24 (by third parties)

but then again this was before quality news came around :p

Not our fault. We ask for one fleet and so many want to thump you lot we end up with three of four

Damage Control already.

I have not been in an even fight since this started. We are always outnumbered. Its you, CFC, that wont undock for even fights. Unless you mean every 1 of the DotBros is worth 3 CFC pilots. Then you could say its been even fights.

Damage Control already.

It was stated at the very begining that NCdot broke the agreement. I dont know what you are drinking, smoking, or not really paying attention to, but you should do some research into the subject.

Maybe you should do your own research, it has been stated over and over and over and over again that we started this war and that we tried to make it look like you guys broke OTEC just so we could attack. When, in reality, you guys DID break OTEC in order to entice us to attack you so you could lose your space... or something.. makes no sense to me, but hey, I hear Tribute is nice this time of year..


Please keep posting in here, you're making us look better and yourself look even dumber

I have not been in an even fight since this started. We are always outnumbered. Its you, CFC, that wont undock for even fights. Unless you mean every 1 of the DotBros is worth 3 CFC pilots. Then you could say its been even fights.

-DOTbros admit the reason they are able to take on such large numbers and still win some fights is due to them using T2 ships vs out T1 ships.

Even fights, pfft.

It's the nature of war to not fight unless you either have a clear advantage or something up your sleeve that will give you the advantage.

DOTbros always give good fights when numbers are even, but are smart enough not to undock 100 AHACS into 500 waiting drakes.

/FLAME SUIT ON

Simple proof without even having to research.



PSS:

I would rather be a pet of a bro-as-**** alliance that is willing to go above and beyond to help its members and to take and hold SOV, than a pet (as your are in BL., which is NC. pet) to an alliance that treats its members like trash, threatens to ban them for not fighting, and all the while is yelling "Didn't want that space anyway"

durr hurr hurr durr

I would rather be a pet of a bro-as-**** alliance that is willing to go above and beyond to help its members and to take and hold SOV, than a pet (as your are in BL., which is NC. pet) to an alliance that treats its members like trash, threatens to ban them for not fighting, and all the while is yelling "Didn't want that space anyway"

You play a game to have fun. Sounds like you are having fun. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just realize if your enemy is having fun too, there is nothing wrong with that either.

Firstly, the CFC is what it is; a power house PvP block? When things go well, we welp fleets from time to time; our objective isn't about nor has it even been ~gudfite~ centric, and has been more about seizing strategic assets that apparently only we 'care' about, who wants Sov anyway, right Nulli Secunda? Our strengths have always been in Logistics (moving stuff around, not the ship) and organization (getting 1000 people to attempt any constructive goal is literally herding cats). Fortunately they CFC/Goons have systems in place to make this easy, and enough Spreadsheet overlords to make sure it's done relatively efficiently.

NC. would probably be in a much better position if they shuffled their leadership about, embraced a few ideals and literally stopped doing a few things:

-That 'we killed a dozen of you' while losing the system, moon or station we formed up to take; while winning the ~iskwar~ your losing the ~sovwar~, and the ~techwar~. Continue to not care about that passive income, we are more than happy to have it.

-That little song and dance your directorate does when they arn't really sure which OP channel they should be spying on, and can't 100% predict the hard counter to what we are flying. Because god forbid they lose a few ships, not hard to figure out where you are moving, when it takes 2 titan bridges to engage us.

-That we will continue to lose (reimbursable) ships, while they bleed tech moons you don't care about (but broke OTEC over), none of us give a single **** about killboard stats. It's not a metric for joining, nobody cares how well you can push F1.

GÇ£So right now GSF is more than just alliance/social network. ItGÇÖs PR project and machine for subjugating Eve Online resources and players, build on all type of **** and dirt: exploiting, backstabbing, lies and harassment. Many pilots, who were broken, lost will in themselves, being unable to find place in game on their own are uniting under the GSF flag. Because they are sure that they will always win, using all above mentioned in and out of game mechanics. Blob without any interest for good fight, without any will of a good and exciting play, without any will of searching for their path in this game on its own, without any dignity or self-respect GÇô This is a blob that need only resources, territory, people for keeping grunts brainwashed. An alliance, where all free players are suppressed and ridiculed.

I like conflict IGÇÖm in now. ItGÇÖs amazing. this is a game with maximum difficulty. This is war against something that is killing this game and for something that really justifies war: self-respect, freedom and dignity.GÇ¥ GÇô BW

I also am a supporter of the idea that if you treat your members well, your numbers will swell. DOTbros sent out a jabber ping yesterday stating that if you were not in fleet, you would be banned from TS. SoCo leaders verbally berate their members during fleet (see my signature). With leaders like that in DOTbros and SoCo, its not hard to figure out why the CFC and HBC harbor a lot of their defectors and refugees..

GÇ£Are we supposed to wait for the enemy to form their fleets and then only form the same number of people and tell everyone else to go home? In all of history, how many times did an army that had superior numbers turn around and say "This isn't fair, half of you go home.GÇ¥