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Black Dynamitez
Veldspar Incorporated Weyland Mining and Exploration Directorate
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:33:00 -
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Yo
I was just recdntly thinking about this in my head and didn't find anything myself so I am asking here. Do you guys know about any characters that are horribly trained? Like cross-trained to bitz and have no focus on them?
Please post link to skill sheets that you think have really badly trained characters on them. I would really really like to take a look and see some for myself.
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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1769
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:35:00 -
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duuuuude "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

Doctor ForumAlt
Hedion University Amarr Empire
17
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:42:00 -
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I trained Salvage Drones on two toons.
Does that count?
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Jim Era
HARD KNOCKS CORP
2616
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:43:00 -
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me |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4665
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:48:00 -
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Hel pilots exist please leave |

Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:49:00 -
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Probably any number of random highsec pubbies who start off with mining, realize it sucks, turn to missions, start off in a drake, then go CNR, then tengu, then omg I wanna nightmare, then machariel, then vindicator, etc. |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
213
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Posted - 2012.09.11 18:53:00 -
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Does not matter; we will all end up with all skills to level 5 in ~19 years |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
292
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:15:00 -
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My main. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |

Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1791
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Posted - 2012.09.11 19:23:00 -
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Folks have told me that I'm wasting my time training Gallente combat ships, that I should be training cookie cutter Minmatar fits like everyone else. To this I say hate on, cause when I'm rolling in my Brutix blasterslapping the rust off ya we'll see who laughs hardest. "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigues of supporting it." - Thomas Paine |

MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
128
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:00:00 -
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<-- 4 year old char, 1 mil SP |

Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
292
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:07:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:Probably any number of random highsec pubbies who start off with mining, realize it sucks, turn to missions, start off in a drake, then go CNR, then tengu, then omg I wanna nightmare, then machariel, then vindicator, etc. Not so sure that counts as bad depending on how far you train into it. Being competent in a variety of ships and roles over time seems only like a benefit, assuming you train to the point of competence and not stop at minimums. |

Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
684
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:17:00 -
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anyone who can fly a battleship but not use t2 light drones. |

Mallak Azaria
609
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:24:00 -
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Black Dynamitez wrote:Yo
I was just recdntly thinking about this in my head and didn't find anything myself so I am asking here. Do you guys know about any characters that are horribly trained? Like cross-trained to bitz and have no focus on them?
Please post link to skill sheets that you think have really badly trained characters on them. I would really really like to take a look and see some for myself.
Cross-training isn't bad. You could blame CCP's flavour of the month cycle of buffing & nerfing, but this happens in every game.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective
2365
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:26:00 -
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Me. A little of this, a little of that, and I suck at everything.
edit: except Monocle Trolling V. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2148
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:27:00 -
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Andski wrote:Hel pilots exist
I can fly a Hel  "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |

Nyreanya
Serenity Labs New Eden Research.
371
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:33:00 -
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Black Dynamitez wrote:Yo
I was just recdntly thinking about this in my head As opposed to....? [/sarcasm] |

TRUE ZER0
SILENT INC
31
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:36:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Andski wrote:Hel pilots exist I can fly a Hel  Who can't? Mains anyways, alts don't count.
*edit my main can't fly a Revenant! Total fail! In before lock. |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2150
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:50:00 -
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TRUE ZER0 wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Andski wrote:Hel pilots exist I can fly a Hel  Who can't? Mains anyways, alts don't count. *edit my main can't fly a Revenant! Total fail!
Oh noes! you can't fly a space turd!  "A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |

Quaaid
Hephaestus LLC Get Off My Lawn
126
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Posted - 2012.09.11 20:58:00 -
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It's pretty easy to get off focus in your training as there are many shiny skills to go after. I wouldn't mind newer players getting an "adjust skill queue" button on the modules and ships information tab to not only show them what they don't have trained but give them the ability to immediately redirect their efforts. |

Bane Loppknow
Pel Industries
57
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:03:00 -
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Thor Kerrigan wrote:Does not matter; we will all end up with all skills to level 5 in ~19 years
Actually it takes closer to 30 years to get all skills to 5. Might be able to shave off a few years with remaps and whatnot. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9452
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:09:00 -
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Bane Loppknow wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:Does not matter; we will all end up with all skills to level 5 in ~19 years Actually it takes closer to 30 years to get all skills to 5. Might be able to shave off a few years with remaps and whatnot. Actually, it takes closer to 18 years. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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stoicfaux
1568
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:17:00 -
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With 75 million skill points, I can fly all sub-cap ships with 27M in gunnery and missiles, yet about all I do nowadays is afk mine in a retriever with t1 strip miners (482k in industrial skills) and do some station trading (112k sp in trade skills) to buy a PLEX every month.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Haoibuni
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
13
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:29:00 -
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Some of the "Most untrained skills" pilots look like they have deliberately trained skills, if and only if, they are prerequisites to open up yet more skills that they can buy up and not train. Including very expensive ones like Racial Titan and Astronautic Engineering.
I'm sure I saw some guy with all 4 titans untrained. Hilarious.
I'm ranked 68th in that category myself so not judging or anything. |

Lysanne Reqetta
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:32:00 -
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You should see my character sheet. Seriously it's awful.
Because the only thing beyond starting skills I've trained is one skill for the fitting tutorial. Forum alts represent o7 Blatant alt posting? In my EVE?
It's more likely than you think. |

Black Dynamitez
Veldspar Incorporated Weyland Mining and Exploration Directorate
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:38:00 -
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Thanks for all your comments and trolling :D
I would seriously like a skill sheet to look at though. It would really make my day to see some toon injected with bunch of random skills and cross-trained to bitz.
Anyways you can keep on trolling....like always ;) |

Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
570
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Posted - 2012.09.11 21:55:00 -
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I fly Gallente and use drones and hybrids, but trained Small Energy Turret Thingy Bobs to level 2.68% which just makes me stoopid.
One day I may waste the 48 mins needed to get it to level 3, or not. You want fries with that? |

Pipa Porto
895
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Posted - 2012.09.11 22:14:00 -
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Andski wrote:Hel pilots exist
Leviathan Pilots born after the Drive-By DD nerf exist. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4668
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Posted - 2012.09.12 00:06:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Andski wrote:Hel pilots exist Leviathan Pilots born after the Drive-By DD nerf exist.
I'm fairly certain that they're just very dedicated trolls please leave |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2395
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Posted - 2012.09.12 00:51:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Folks have told me that I'm wasting my time training Gallente combat ships, that I should be training cookie cutter Minmatar fits like everyone else. To this I say hate on, cause when I'm rolling in my Brutix blasterslapping the rust off ya we'll see who laughs hardest.
The guy laughing hardest will be orbiting you at 20km at twice your maximum velocity. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2012.09.12 00:58:00 -
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http://eveboard.com/pilot/Mars_Theran
Wish granted. ...the first part anyway; I'm not sure about the other.
btw, I can fly Battleships and haven't got T2 small drones yet. 
..I also have a stupid amount of skills, but I like them. ..most of them. I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |

Pipa Porto
895
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Posted - 2012.09.12 01:23:00 -
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Andski wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Andski wrote:Hel pilots exist Leviathan Pilots born after the Drive-By DD nerf exist. I'm fairly certain that they're just very dedicated trolls
Maybe they like being a human Jump Bridge? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |

Natassia Krasnoo
R3D SHIFT
23
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Posted - 2012.09.12 03:46:00 -
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Thiswas my first eve character (not counting my trial character from 2003). Had no clue what the hell I was doing other than I wanted to fly big ships then I got interested in manufactuiring for about a week or two and gave up. then it was mining for a good while. then PVP, then wormholes. He looks much better after a few years of focused training but you should have seen him in 2009. It was ugly...really ugly. |

Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
66
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Posted - 2012.09.12 06:24:00 -
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All I got to say I wish I didn't waste so much time training for a hulk, and a curse I never use. A narrow mind is a focused mind. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1729
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Posted - 2012.09.12 06:29:00 -
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Thanks for starting a thread about me. GÖÑ |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4784
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:23:00 -
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There's no such thing as a badly trained pilot.
For example, if you only trained shield stuff and fly an armor ship - obviously you're not badly trained, you went to the wrong spaceship dealer that talked you into flying an armor ship?
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Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.09.12 07:30:00 -
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One of my first characters was horribly trained. Always aimed to get it into 0.0 (it did get there for awhile) so had the idea that I should train all the skill books I could get my hands on as I thought it would not be so easy to get them in 0.0. Result of course was I had loads of skills I never used. |

Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:18:00 -
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Chribba wrote:There's no such thing as a badly trained pilot.
For example, if you only trained shield stuff and fly an armor ship - obviously you're not badly trained, you went to the wrong spaceship dealer that talked you into flying an armor ship?
The spaceship dealer is usually your Corp CEO.  I have deleted and cleared my signature 7 times and it still won't go away. |

TriadSte
IronPig Sev3rance
106
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Posted - 2012.09.12 10:31:00 -
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The thing is, your very first toon will always be cross trained and have stuff thats unfocused. I am a great example. I believe its impossible to have a 100% focused character when you first step into this game. Unless of course your RL friends play so you kinda might have some knowledge of the game.
When you first download the client and login no one thinks hmm yeah I'll be a 100% focused loki pilot. Simply because you wont have a clue about what ships do what and their real uses.
You'll try a bit of everything, missions, mining, you may try exploration etc so right there youve already lost that focused look.
My other character is a perfect tengu pilot who is uber focused compared to me. |

gobbybobby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
10
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Posted - 2012.09.12 11:02:00 -
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Bane Loppknow wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:Does not matter; we will all end up with all skills to level 5 in ~19 years Actually it takes closer to 30 years to get all skills to 5. Might be able to shave off a few years with remaps and whatnot.
And they will add more skills over time so people can not even come close to learning everything in the game. |

Senarrius
Big Monkey Corp Final Admonition
26
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:39:00 -
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I do believe the thread title sums me up rather well.
I'm a Caldari that loved all things missile related, then railguns, then I saw an Abaddon in action and knew I needed one.
So I had a Rokh and now I have an Abaddon. Now once again I have the urge to to use missiles, and might get a CNR for mission running.
I'm terrible at focussing on one character, I've always been like that with games. In the end though I should hopefully be able to to play all the ships I love.
Now if only the Rokh and Raven could swap rolls. I hate the look of the Raven. |

Senarrius
Big Monkey Corp Final Admonition
26
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Posted - 2012.09.12 13:40:00 -
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Double post :/ |

Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.09.12 14:14:00 -
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My skill sheet most probably looks like crap. Thats what you get for trying a game with no contact inside for teaching some basics. |

Senarrius
Big Monkey Corp Final Admonition
26
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:14:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:My skill sheet most probably looks like crap. Thats what you get for trying a game with no contact inside for teaching some basics.
I have to agree, when I started the tutorial was rubbish, and I knew no one. I played alone for a while wasting a lot of skill points it seems.
I took a break in between for a while, started again with friends and found some direction before taking around 3 years of a break.
Now I know a lot more, I just wish I knew more about it all when I started. Some direction early on helps a lot. |

Roderick Grey
Assisted Genocide Black Legion.
58
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:33:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Folks have told me that I'm wasting my time training Gallente combat ships, that I should be training cookie cutter Minmatar fits like everyone else. To this I say hate on, cause when I'm rolling in my Brutix blasterslapping the rust off ya we'll see who laughs hardest.
A real man flies the Myrmidon. |

Wilhelm Riley
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
104
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:34:00 -
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I think a better question is, who has the lowest amount of SP? |

Dennis Gregs
Dawn of Fire
60
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:36:00 -
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Trendon Evenstar wrote:Probably any number of random highsec pubbies who start off with mining, realize it sucks, turn to missions, start off in a drake, then go CNR, then tengu, then omg I wanna nightmare, then machariel, then vindicator, etc. I see nothing wrong with playing the game the way you want to. That's how it usually goes anyway, you start doing something, you get bored, you do something else, it's good that EVE has a lot of different activities you can train for. |

Black Dynamitez
Veldspar Incorporated Weyland Mining and Exploration Directorate
0
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:37:00 -
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Wilhelm Riley wrote:I think a better question is, who has the lowest amount of SP?
Everyone starts with the same amount of SP (around 55k if I remember correctly) and therefore your question wouldn't be "better"... |

highonpop
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
278
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:43:00 -
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I WIN THIS!
I started Eve in 2007. I was a very very casual player. I would log on, maybe twice a week. This was back before we had a thing called a "Skill Que". If you were not online when you skill finished, you lost training time until you could log on and set a new skill. If your skill was only 8 hours to train to level 2, you needed to be online 8 hours later to set it to level 3...
Ofc, being a very casual player, this was my downfall. I had no focus in my training, outside some industrial skills. I missed more training time that I used. I un-subbed and then re-subbed a few different times.
Finally, in 2010, with only 5 mill skillpoints to show for it, I decided to turn to PvP and become more serious about my internet spaceships. I have missed little training time since then. (with the help of the newly implemented que)
From 2007-2010 I trained 5 mill SP. From 2010-now, I have trained almost an additional 30 mill SP.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
215
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Posted - 2012.09.12 16:49:00 -
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Bane Loppknow wrote:Thor Kerrigan wrote:Does not matter; we will all end up with all skills to level 5 in ~19 years Actually it takes closer to 30 years to get all skills to 5. Might be able to shave off a few years with remaps and whatnot.
My reference was max skill training rate possible (remaps) and the 450 mil sp clone.
gobbybobby wrote:
And they will add more skills over time so people can not even come close to learning everything in the game.
I have a dream... -MLK |
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