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Dretzle Omega Caldari Ozeki Corp.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:02:00 - [61] Edited by: Dretzle Omega on 21/06/2011 20:07:12 Originally by: Loney Originally by: Dretzle Omega Often, one can call a harsher "scam" even when it is only necessary to point out when and why someone would be high risk to invest in. True, and good luck working for the next 5 years in Eve with your investments and still never getting the the level im at Gotta love making the "rich and powerful" and all around "better than me" players feel the need to stoop to insulting me. Length of play time and numbers displayed by your pixels do not make you smarter. Clearly, from this thread as evidence, they make you dumber. Originally by: Loney Originally by: Dretzle Omega Or: the OP is stupid enough not to realize the stupidity of the collateral chosen This too has ben covered... I know, and we're going with stupidity of the OP... My point was too simple, perhaps, that you did not understand it. I was just pointing out that in cases like this investment is simpler than "scam" or "be more clear on returns", we can simply look at intelligence of the investee. When it is extremely low, such as is the case here, it's an easy option not to invest, whatever the points of interest. Originally by: Loney Originally by: Dretzle Omega because he is dense enough not to realize that 100 Bil ISK collateral makes no sense for a 100 Bil ISK bond. Im sure we covered this several times, good job on being orginal... Though it might not be obvious why i didn't that its 100% ovbious i didn't do it for ISK! Actually, you didn't cover it much more than "Hey, it's still collateral. Get over it." Hence my emphasis on your intelligence since you cannot even realize how pointless it is (or even detrimental to yourself) an ISK collateral for ISK is and using that measure to clue us in to not invest. EDIT: Just noticed recent response to RAW, written after my previous post, where you finally agree how odd it is to have ISK for ISK collateral, which may point to a slightly higher intelligence than this post first postulated at. Originally by: Akita T BTW, if you see God when you're clutching for your chest due to sudden realization you have no chance to get out of this with your wallet intact tell him he still owes me money
RAW23	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:03:00 - [62] Originally by: Tutskii To be honest, I don't understand the antipathy towards this bond. I think the unwillingness to offer more precision on expected returns has turned quite a few people off as it currently looks like a 1% bond with the possibility of a bonus. And even with Chribba's name attached, 1% is pretty low (8.333r years of return needed per scam).
Dretzle Omega Caldari Ozeki Corp.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:06:00 - [63] Originally by: Loney This bond had produced several investors and raised 20B isk and i am 110% fine with that.[/pink] 20B ISK from 100B collateral. Wow. Originally by: Akita T BTW, if you see God when you're clutching for your chest due to sudden realization you have no chance to get out of this with your wallet intact tell him he still owes me money
Dretzle Omega Caldari Ozeki Corp.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:09:00 - [64] Originally by: Tutskii It is 100% backed by collateral so it is impossible to lose isk on it, and it is unlikely that doing it for money is Loney's objective. But he could for instance be looking for publicity for his capital business (see all those pretty sigs?), or for himself. IF this is the goal it has succeeded splendidly, I went from having no idea of who Loney was, to knowing that CyberDyne RD is a capital ship manufacturer close to Jita that produces most capital ships and fittings for them. And also, of regular lotteries held by himself. Good publicity? I'd think twice, myself, about doing business with someone doing an ISK collateral for ISK loan, but maybe that's just me. Oh, you didn't say Good publicity. My bad. Originally by: Akita T BTW, if you see God when you're clutching for your chest due to sudden realization you have no chance to get out of this with your wallet intact tell him he still owes me money
Tutskii	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:12:00 - [65] Originally by: RAW23 Originally by: Tutskii To be honest, I don't understand the antipathy towards this bond. I think the unwillingness to offer more precision on expected returns has turned quite a few people off as it currently looks like a 1% bond with the possibility of a bonus. And even with Chribba's name attached, 1% is pretty low (8.333r years of return needed per scam). Well, I am sort of new, but I failed to see a lot of changes one could profit off in the notes this time around. That, coupled with the timing of this bond launch would maybe indicate that there was no expected returns at any point (speculation wise, anyway) and that he just expects to pay whatever from his own pocket. If that was the case, then I'd stay with the marketing hypothesis and say that that is pretty good returns for 1 billion isk (for himself!). Although, since he would likely not have wished to be seen as incompetent I'd have guessed it would likely have been.. quite a bit higher. Either way, if Chribba holds 100 b of his in his wallet, or 20, its obvious Loney didn't need or want the isk for the period. But this is all theorycrafting born of the extended downtime cutting off my playtime so don't take me too seriously. http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1516147 mcvs!
Enoch Schuldenberg	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:17:00 - [66] Quote: What loss? It is collerateralized 100% incase I get negetive returns (not likly to happen btw). And you can pull your ISK out after 30day with 1% profit if you have fear (or could have if you invested) You aren't acquainted with a concept of time value of money, are you? Having 1% of profits in half a year is essentially a loss because of a) inflation (and don't tell me there is no inflation in EVE) b) unrealized profit - from directing funds into something more profitable. And btw, you can probably get higher returns simply by occasionally doing some casual hauling / station trading. So what's the big fuss about some cunning investment plan. And that's actually the thing - this thing is very different from your previous undertakings. You even dubbed them IPOs (in relation to the starting point). And then this: Quote: If i wanted increased funds then i would not have used RAW ISK act as collerteral. Making profit should be the same with 10m isk or 10b isk unless you are "trying" to minipulate the market, but for this it is not necessary. It has nothing to do with manipulating the market. It's plain simple scaling up.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.22 03:35:00 - [67] you probably could have higher profits if you didn't acquire 100b+ technetium in one go with a buy order noticeably above market price but hey, thanks for the free isk!
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.06.22 04:53:00 - [68] Edited by: Loney on 22/06/2011 04:53:43 Originally by: Dretzle Omega Gotta love making the "rich and powerful" and all around "better than me" players feel the need to stoop to insulting me. It wasn't meant as an insult... it was meant as a risk to reward compairison... you can make low risk returns all day long and spend years getting rich or you can take high risks (with the right people) and make big returns. Though im having fun and all repying to your pointless threads, since you obvously don't read any replys or understand them for that matter... i have better things to do. . Sales - CDRD
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.06.22 04:58:00 - [69] Originally by: Tutskii Well, I am sort of new, but I failed to see a lot of changes one could profit off in the notes this time around. That, coupled with the timing of this bond launch would maybe indicate that there was no expected returns at any point (speculation wise, anyway) and that he just expects to pay whatever from his own pocket. Not the case at all. Just because ther are no noticle changes in the market dose not mean on can't speculate about market items preformance over then next 6 months. Originally by: Tutskii If that was the case, then I'd stay with the marketing hypothesis and say that that is pretty good returns for 1 billion isk (for himself!). Although, since he would likely not have wished to be seen as incompetent I'd have guessed it would likely have been.. quite a bit higher. Profits will be way more then 1% that is just the guarentee amount i was offering as opposed to NOHTHING at all! . Sales - CDRD
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.06.22 05:02:00 - [70] Originally by: Enoch Schuldenberg You aren't acquainted with a concept of time value of money, are you? Having 1% of profits in half a year is essentially a loss. You aren't acquainted with the concept of read comprehension? 6 months the profit could be 100% and every month a vote will be case to cashout with x% profit, or you can cashout anytime with forfieting your profits and only geting 1% profit!!!! . Sales - CDRD

Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.06.22 05:07:00 - [71] Originally by: Weaselior you probably could have higher profits if you didn't acquire 100b+ technetium in one go with a buy order noticeably above market price It was considerabally more ten 100b... I had pleanty of buy orders up but they were not filling fast enough so i took a slight hit on my personal profits as that buy order had nothing to do with this BOND. Originally by: Weaselior but hey, thanks for the free isk! Your welcome I always love making other people money... even when im not trying. . Sales - CDRD

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.06.22 15:55:00 - [72] Originally by: Loney Edited by: Loney on 21/06/2011 17:23:06 Investors Information 20 BONDS Total 1 - CyberStar 15 - Chu Ran 3 - Xhondo Dhoru 1 - stonewall ironwill You information has been recorded and verrified. Confirmed. And also that the 80B that were not reserved is being sent back, thus leaving 20B in my hands as collateral should Loney fail to pay, go missing or other ways end this venture. /c Secure 3rd party service \| in-game 'Holy Veldspar' Now /w voice

Jerry Pepridge	Posted - 2011.06.29 23:08:00 - [73] This is where your bond money is being spent. Scrub is Scrub. nice monocle bra _________________________________________________ Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone.
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.06.30 03:04:00 - [74] Originally by: Jerry Pepridge nice monocle bra Don't be jealous... If you were nice I would have bought you one... just like the ther 4 I have handed out in Jita this week! . Sales - CDRD
Xhondo Dhoru	Posted - 2011.07.28 06:13:00 - [75] Bumping this topic. Curious about status of investment.
Chu Ran Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.07.28 14:36:00 - [76] Originally by: Xhondo Dhoru Bumping this topic. Curious about status of investment. Investment, what investment?!?! Mwahahaha, you have all been cheated out of, let me calculate, 20-15 = 5 billion ISK by this elaborate scam that I've pulled off with Chribba!!! On a more serious note, I'd also like an update if available. I'm actually more curious about what item(s) you were thinking about pre and post-patching (please don't tell me it's monocles.... pretty please...).
Loney CyberDyne R-D	Posted - 2011.07.31 08:38:00 - [77] July 2011 Report Share Value: 1,160,750,000 Month Profit: 3,215,000,000 Month ROI: 16.08% Total Value: 23,215,000,000 Total ROI: 16.08% Liquid ISK: 215,000,000 Items Stock: 23,000,000,000 . Sales - CDRD


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