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Angela Spears
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:21:00 -
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I've got a problem and I know it's probably just me but I want to see if anyone out there is the same as me in this aspect. I've finished the tutorial missions and for the Sisters of Eve arc, I want to fly an Amarr cruiser so I started training for it. I know I can start the missions using my Punisher frig, but since I want a Maller or Omen for those missions, I find myself wanting to wait to get the cruiser, fit it, and train the necesary skills to fly it decently for the story line.
Anyways,it's been 3 days since I've played because all I'm doing is waiting on skills. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, what do you do?
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:26:00 -
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It can seem hard at first when you are keen to jump into those bigger shiny ships you see everyone flying but you will soon learn that there is plenty you can do in even the humblest of frigates.
If you spend all your time waiting for the right skills then you are going to be holding yourself back for the rest of your time spent playing Eve.
Chill, fit what you can with the skills you have and get out there and do something!
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:26:00 -
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You were "doing things" before you started training to fly you nice new shiny ship. Why not do those same thing?
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Judicator Saturnius
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:27:00 -
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I tend to explore when i'm bored or otherwise waiting on a new "critical skill," to train (which doesn't happen much anymore). Can't recall what I did prior to having astrometric skills, probably complexes or something.
vOv
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:28:00 -
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Ooh, simulpost with Lady Spank. Does that mean we have to makeout or something?
Hey Spank, do you like old guys?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 18/06/2011 06:35:37
Play the game? Learning the basic skills for an activity is very fast. Usually new ships and skills just let you do the same thing you already do a little more efficiently. Point being you do what you like and train the absolute basics to do it. After that you continue playing while you train for those additional goals that allow you to do more of the same. Having an attitude where you do nothing while waiting for an arbitrary training goal is just silly. You'll end up sucking at the game, being a very passive player in general and propably aren't going to enjoy your time all that much.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Kesshisan
Ooh, simulpost with Lady Spank. Does that mean we have to makeout or something?
Hey Spank, do you like old guys?
My Mum told me not to talk to strangers.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:38:00 -
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Winning EVE is hard work, you need to remember to log at the right times or your queue may finish with no skills to train. Other than that just go outside and do they things you wanted to do even if you don't have the right ship. You may discover it was not worth the wait after all and move to 0.0 space to shoot people in the face instead. |
Angela Spears
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:40:00 -
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Thank you for the advice. I'm determined to get my Cruiser (Omen or Maller, which is better for mission running?) before starting the Sisters of Eve arc, which will be tomorrow. Once I get that I will just start training the recommended skills whilst I am mission running. Since I haven't been doing much in Eve I was just curious who else was like me and decided to ask.
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Im Super Gay
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:41:00 -
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Play a different game
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:45:00 -
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Maller is better, Omen looks cooler. Either way you can't go wrong 
Originally by: Xenuria
I don't need a LICENSE to take a photoshooped image and lay it on top of the game client and make pretend my character is naked.
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Rykuss
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:45:00 -
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So fly a frig in the SoE epic arc, lots of people beat it this way. Best case scenario, you'll lose a frig or two in the process. Worst case scenario, you'll lose that shiney cruiser you waited a week to fly. That cruiser won't necessarily guarantee you success as many a newcomer to this game can probably tell you. If you simply must have a cruiser for it, then run level 1 missions in the meantime. You were given the necessary ships to do those in the tutorials.
Can we has a t-shirt that says "I survived teh lulz" for our avatars please? I'd totally effin' buy that!
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Ganagati
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.06.18 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: Angela Spears
Thank you for the advice. I'm determined to get my Cruiser (Omen or Maller, which is better for mission running?) before starting the Sisters of Eve arc, which will be tomorrow. Once I get that I will just start training the recommended skills whilst I am mission running. Since I haven't been doing much in Eve I was just curious who else was like me and decided to ask.
When I first started I had the same problem. Eventually it does go away, though, especially when you hit the 20-30 mil mark. Once you are there you basically either are flying whatever you want to and are just maxing out various skills or you are going hog wild and working your way through a titan (Im the former. :-P I don't even want to sit behind the wheel of a capital or larger :-P To much $$$$ to be blown up 0_o).
I wish that new characters started off with SP to play around with. The average SP in the game has got to be at least 30 mil by this point, considering how long the game has been out, so giving new players 500,000-1,000,000 SP to just put wherever they want surely couldn't break the game too much. However, usually when I say that I get flamed to hell and back so I suppose it's only an idea that sounds good to me lol. But, I digress, they improved the start for new characters by leaps and bounds when they dumped learning skills. I am appreciative of that as I see the subscription numbers increase.
I was the same way, when I started. I noticed a ship that I loved the look of and simply HAD to have it before I did anything else. What did I do? Play another game. Look at stuff in EVE once in a while to keep myself interested. Do I recommend this? No. I strongly suggest making due with whatever and making some money, learning how to blow stuff up, etc. I promise that you'll lose that first ship in a heartbeat if you don't at least get SOME experience putting around.
I love EVE, but getting past that first month or two is miserable. lol. Would be faster to just buy a pair of plex, hit up the char bazaar and snag a 1 mil sp toon. lol
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VKhaun Vex
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Posted - 2011.06.18 08:01:00 -
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I'm the same.
I don't want to fly some random hodge-podge of T1/T2 equipment in some middle step ship I don't care about.
I guess the problem is I think along the lines of other MMO's where my ship takes the place of my 'character' instead of focusing on my pod/pilot. I don't want to play as some random low end ship. I want to pick the ship for me and then watch it get better. If I can't fly the ship I like with T1 gear, I'm not playing. Flame away, but that's how it is.
So my answer to 'what do you do' is I train navigation skills. They have a unique attribute combination that will mess up your remaps later if you suddenly decide/need to up them, yet it has a low number of skills and many of them only apply to stealth/black ops etc.
I've experimented enough in-game, shot a few people down, done a few missions. By the time my nav skills are all 5 I'll have picked my favorite ship, queue the basic fly/fit requirements, and then I'll play when those are done.
Until them I'm on RIFT... because WoW clones are a nerd's solitaire.
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Tarpedo
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Posted - 2011.06.18 08:11:00 -
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Alt account or alt game - something completely different. Like miner, logist or king of carebearity - rune keeper in Lord of the Rings Online.
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San Severina
Minmatar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.06.18 08:17:00 -
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You play the game 
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.06.18 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Angela Spears
I've got a problem and I know it's probably just me but I want to see if anyone out there is the same as me in this aspect. I've finished the tutorial missions and for the Sisters of Eve arc, I want to fly an Amarr cruiser so I started training for it. I know I can start the missions using my Punisher frig, but since I want a Maller or Omen for those missions, I find myself wanting to wait to get the cruiser, fit it, and train the necesary skills to fly it decently for the story line.
Anyways,it's been 3 days since I've played because all I'm doing is waiting on skills. Does anyone else have this problem? If so, what do you do?
I often find myself doing things to stuff.
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Craven Aleros
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:00:00 -
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Do some belt ratting, level 1 missions, mining, wormhole exploration, ore stealing or salvaging.
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P42ALPHA
Gallente
DeadOn.
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:05:00 -
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While waiting for those big fancy ships, fit a destroyer, look at the map. Find a really quiet lowsec spot, and go rat battle ships. You will be able to afford the shiny ship when u can fly it, and some more!! I find that destroyers are best for this, cheap, and kill really fast. Just fit a after burner onto it, and never fly strait at the bs, or away from it. You can kill 900k bs's in about 3 mins, with ok skills. And if for some reason, you get attacked by someone, you have the ability to get out quick, or shake of a cheap loss.
Run lvl 2 missions over and over, to get some nice implants for that larger ship. Or if u can, run lvl 3's.
If you like pvp, fit a nasty little rifter, and go pick a fight.
If you like to salvage, get a destroyer, and probe down some mission runners, and steal there salvage.
These are some of the most basic ways to kill some time in eve, and there are a million other basic ways to do it "right".
Also remember, this is a sandbox game, there is very little direction. Just find what you like to do, and do it. Even if you are not the best at it to start. You have to begin somewhere.
Just avoid 95% of the corps in the recruitment channel, you will either end up in a dead or dieing corp. Or end up mining with 4 guys, and might get the idea all of Eve is like that:P
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:16:00 -
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Been training, trade, social and leadership skills mainly in that order.
Whilst those are training, I've either been on the forums or playing Ultimate Edition Dragon Age Origins.
Unfortunately Dragon Age Origins is easy even at nightmare skill level.
Only partially challenging thing in the Ultimate Edition is 'The Golems of Amgarrak' a stand alone quest line.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 18/06/2011 09:21:17
Originally by: Angela Spears
Thank you for the advice. I'm determined to get my Cruiser (Omen or Maller, which is better for mission running?) before starting the Sisters of Eve arc, which will be tomorrow.
The Sisters arc consists of 50-ish missions (some are branches, but, meh), the first 90% of which can easily be completed in a frigate or destroyer.
In fact, the only missions where you would want a cruiser is the mission before the last one, and that just to kill ONE NPC. If you get one or two others around to help you, it's quite doable even in frigs.
Could be very well that training for the cruiser will take less time than actually going through the frigate-focused missions.
So, basically, not really worth waiting on the sidelines.
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Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:21:00 -
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You will spend all your EVE time waiting for skills. If you get into EVE, you'll grab an alt account or two to wait on their skills.
Play other games until you unlock new hulls/equipment. Play with those. When you get bored of that, play other games.
Take solace in the fact that new skills aren't on the horizon for the next 3 years.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Mutant Caldari
Caldari
Percussive Diplomacy
The Phoenix. Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.18 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Im Super Gay
Play a different game
Yeah I am a pirate. What are you gonna do about it?
Killboard link is not allowed to be used in a signature.Applebabe
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:03:00 -
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I mine and run missions.
For as much as mining is criticized, it IS free isk.
Missions add variety when mining gets dull and they help with standings progression.
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Jim Tudeski
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
For as much as mining is criticized, it IS free isk.
It is quite funny that people actually still believe that. Unless you are botting, it is in no way "free" ISK.
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JibbaJabbas
Minmatar
MOIL
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:08:00 -
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Mostly play warcraft/cod/mw2 etc
Just keep myself busy
My Views Are On My Own, I do Not Represent My Corp In Any Way When I am Trolling, I Am In Butt Head Mode Whislt Trollling
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Tudeski
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
For as much as mining is criticized, it IS free isk.
It is quite funny that people actually still believe that. Unless you are botting, it is in no way "free" ISK.
Then you are doing it wrong.
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Bubbles Udan
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:11:00 -
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Cybersex.
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Shiloh Technologies
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Cybersex.
But I'm not on all the time, who else are you doing it with *cries*
Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons |
Sarina Berghil
Minmatar
New Zion Judge Advocate
Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.18 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: VKhaun Vex
I guess the problem is I think along the lines of other MMO's where my ship takes the place of my 'character' instead of focusing on my pod/pilot. I don't want to play as some random low end ship. I want to pick the ship for me and then watch it get better. If I can't fly the ship I like with T1 gear, I'm not playing. Flame away, but that's how it is.
I think a lot of new players think like that. In practice it's better to think of the collection of ships as a toolbox. You need the right tool for the job, not necessarily the bigger one.
The Sister's of Eve arc is designed for frigs and destroyers, a cruiser might not work very well except for a few of the final chapters.
I did most of it in frigate, and switched to a destroyer along the way.
Waiting for a skill to finish is a bit silly when you are well suited for doing it now.
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