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Yama Orius
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:49:00 -
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After some looking over all the light/med drones. I've come to several conclusions. And what I want to ask is if these conclusions are correct.
Minmitar Drones: Hands down the best of the 4 race's drones in pvp, only being slightly lower dps and tank than gallente. King of pvp.
Gallente Drones: King of PVE. Best damage and tank. Only suffering from speed and tracking, so not as good at pvp as minmitar.
Caldari Drones: Decent specs at everything, but best at nothing. Not used much outside some pve.
Amarr Drones: Worthless. Lowest dps by a large margin, and second best or worse at everything else. Not good for pve or pvp. Almost never used.
Reason I made this post as mentioned above is to confirm this is correct. And to possibly (Ok, almost no chance in hell realistically.) to get a response from a Dev as to why only two of the 4 drones ever get used in my experience. And why they didn't give each racial drone at least one thing they were better than the others at, rather than give two of them uses and the other two a shelf to collect dust on.
This isn't a troll by any means. If I'm wrong on any of the above points, call me on it. But please provide the reason why. As the above has been taken statistically from the drone's stats themselves.
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Cataca
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:50:00 -
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Actually, due to how 90% of the omni tanks are set up, therm is the single best damage type you can do, so gallente drones reign supreme in most cases. I'd generally say that the different specs for drones are overall useless, sentries beeing the exception.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.06.20 06:56:00 -
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I still think that CCP inadvertently switched the amarrian and minmatar damage multipliers, and this particularly oversight has been perpetuated by a vast matari conspiracy...
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cataca Actually, due to how 90% of the omni tanks are set up, therm is the single best damage type you can do, so gallente drones reign supreme in most cases. I'd generally say that the different specs for drones are overall useless, sentries beeing the exception.
Mostly true but needs some expansion to say that the minmatar Warrior II's, speed and tracking, lend themselves to being 'better' (nasty word) at fighting frigates especially inti's. This isnt so much of a problem if you have a web ect blah blah but if they kite blagh lala but then if you ... la la... more stuff ect... ect... titans .... bagh la ect .... can i have your stuff? |
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:10:00 -
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There was this thread I read once which compared the damage, tracking, speed and tank of all 4 racial drones. Everything seemed to be following a pattern, and logically be balanced out. However, it seemed that the Minmatar drones had received the damage of what Amarr drones had been predicted to have, and vice versa. Typo in balance?
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Naomi Knight
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:12:00 -
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told u that matar is op and dev team is biased
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Ineka
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ineka on 20/06/2011 11:35:49
Originally by: Cataca Actually, due to how 90% of the omni tanks are set up, therm is the single best damage type you can do, so gallente drones reign supreme in most cases. I'd generally say that the different specs for drones are overall useless, sentries beeing the exception.
Warriors II is the exception, you must have those for their incredible tracking and speed above all others.
Meds depending where you mission I'd say Caldari vs Gallente is 50/50 since Caldari drones shoot from far than gallente ones and have better tracking where Gallente ones will be able to miserably miss targets of size like cruisers.
Heavy drones, well you can't seriously say they have bad dps, there are few situations and ships where those shine and OC you want a drones boat perfectly rigged with drones mobs and assist drones dps/support. For heavy set I'd choose Ogres II and "forgot the fcking name of matar ones", set of lights dps and set of lights remote shield/armour to rep drones while they dps, mwd mods x2 to make those ogres eat space gravel like bikers eat moskitoes and tracking link faction oc. Rigs, has I don't have T2 sentry and not planing on soon I don't rigg for that purpose but yeah think it must be something awesome with t2 sentry's
Same stuff about sentry, except that sentry's are terribad, really really terribad for T1 models under lvl4 sentry skill and lvl5 drones interfacing, even there I choose Ogres. So, it's skill intensive has drone to deliver his best but the time spent on them is really worthy imho. (T2's -are completely different and better than T1's every one using them will tell you that)
Essentially you'll see small hobgobs+warriors med hammers or vespas, heavy ogres or heavy ogres, and sentry's are little bit more spread since it seems caldary/minmatar ones are pretty awesome thx to distance dmg application and better tracking than gallente ones but well, even gallente sentry's use blasters so it's not like we could expect something new from those
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Yama Orius
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:52:00 -
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Well thank you for the replies. I'm concluding that my finding were correct then. I'd post a bug report about this to CCP. But I doubt they would fix it. (I'm sure "someone" else has pointed this out to them over the past several years.)
And as someone else mentioned, it would make sense they switched the multipliers. Guess we'll never know. :(
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Halbert Vector
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Yama Orius
Caldari Drones: Decent specs at everything, but best at nothing. Not used much outside some pve.
That depends on whether you're counting ewar drones.
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slightly sillydude
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:35:00 -
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Generally true. Gallente drones have nice damage type (the ships with absurd therm resist are t2 caldari which you don't see much of). Minmatar light are the only ones that can run down interceptors, minmatar medium are more damage and still ok against frigs. Caldari are decent, use if you want kinetic damage, which there are occasions to want. Amarr are inexplicably awful.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Halbert Vector
Originally by: Yama Orius
Caldari Drones: Decent specs at everything, but best at nothing. Not used much outside some pve.
That depends on whether you're counting ewar drones.
Quite. However, it's worth noting that neither ewar nor sentry drones benefit from the drone specialization skills.
This means that there is quite literally no reason whatsoever to train Amarr drone specialization. (For the ultra-carebear, Caldari drones can outperform Gallente on specific factions.)
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.06.20 20:42:00 -
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Caldari drones also have the sometimes-useful benefit of stronger shields rather than armor. So if/when they do get shot up, they are more likely to be able to make it back to rep themselves up later.
But yeah, that's pretty much just a PvE benefit.
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Concubinia Scarlett
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Posted - 2011.06.20 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ineka Same stuff about sentry, sic So, it's skill intensive has drone to deliver his best but the time spent on them is really worthy imho. (T2's -are completely different and better than T1's every one using them will tell you that)
Also training sentry drone interfacing to lvl V gets you access to all four racial types of T2 sentry drones, which is pretty awesome and well worth the training time. The different types of sentry drones do have a valid use in PVE, as they have vastly different ranges, e.g. caldari sentry drones have an optimal of 60km iirc and can be very useful for sniping stuff that is miles away from a mission warp-in, but garde IIs are the gold standard for PVP due to their excellent damage & tracking and their optimal being roughly the same as T2 point range.
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