Ok...but more importantly did they say anything about completely changing that awful hull of the Moa?

or it was you who confused those ships

Nope.

Caracal has never been particularly fast, and it can't kite very well. It was always better at lobbing missiles from a safe distance.
Moa has typically been used with blasters to fight close range.

So CCP has ignored the way people actually use these ships.

Also, how the hell do you expect me to believe the Thorax is a lighter cruiser than a Vexor?

So a ship that "lob missile from safe distance" is more a brawler than one using blaster at close range?

Because the Moa has to go faster. Therefore the Moa is the fast attack cruiser.

Nope.

Caracal has never been particularly fast, and it can't kite very well. It was always better at lobbing missiles from a safe distance.
Moa has typically been used with blasters to fight close range.

So CCP has ignored the way people actually use these ships.

Also, how the hell do you expect me to believe the Thorax is a lighter cruiser than a Vexor?

He's also the brawler. They mostly just applied a false label on the Caracal. Going in the thick of battle is brawling. Thats what the Moa does. The Caracal in a brawl is a soon to be lost ship.

But the Caracal is not fast.
It is not agile.

How the hell do we get away with calling it a Fast Attack Cruiser?! The moa is a much better choice here.

Caracal is faster than the Moa. Caracal is more agile than the Moa. THAT is how they get away with calling it an Attack Cruiser.

Moa is slower. Moa is less agile. Moa has a shield resist bonus. THAT is how they get away with calling it a Combat Cruiser.

Understand now?

If you do, don't say anything and just let this terrible thread die.

If you don't, obvious troll is obvious and you should still let this terrible thread die.

Which one is actually faster then? He seems to say Moa and you say Caracal. Is this whole thread stupid because the OP could not get the right data?

In the recent dev blog it says that the Caracal is going to be a fast attack cruiser and the moa a brawler.....

These roles are backwards Caracal should be the brawler and Moa the attack cruiser.

You guys also seem to have the Vexor and Throax confused.

Re-read your own post.

Future tense <> present tense

All your confusion about Fast Attack Cruisers aside, the future is what CCP makes of it.

it can't kite very well. It was always better at lobbing missiles from a safe distance

Ok...but more importantly did they say anything about completely changing that awful hull of the Moa?

You don't know what kiting is, do you?

Since when has a Caracal done anything but lob missiles from a distance?

And since when has a Moa done anything but fit Blasters and get all close and personal?

Like others have said, it is you who is mistaken

Which one is actually faster then? He seems to say Moa and you say Caracal. Is this whole thread stupid because the OP could not get the right data?

Base speed + 10mn mwd gets the Caracal to 1387m/s and Moa to 1354m/s.

But the Moa has twice as many low slots, so the Moa has a higher top speed.

If the moa already has a higher top speed, why is the Caracal becoming the fast attack cruiser?

Caracal is actually faster, despite the OP's protestations and bad math.



But they both have 3 rig slots which means the Caracal has a higher top speed. You've heard of stacking penalties, I presume?



Again, it doesn't. The Caracal has a higher top speed. Your math is terrible and you should feel terrible.

EFT says Moa has an absolute advantage in top speed. Fill all slots and rigs with speed stuff.

No, they called it sleek though.