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bobby builders
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:29:00 -
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Every day in Alliance chat Xetic folks have the same conversation at least twice while I am on, ôwhen will Stain attack?ö This is quite possibly the coolest situtation IÆve ever seen. Politics and reactions just like in RL.
Consider when PaulAtradies (thundercats) recently blasted a Xetic member running through HED. Immediately everyone assumed, ôoh the warmongering Stain guys are at war with usö and people started mobilizing talking about where there assets were and how we should respond to StainÆs aggression (see anymore everyone just assumes Stain is attacking rather than a mistake was made).
Every day someone says things like:
[ 2005.02.18 15:07:25 ] ***** > im being told stain are going to attack xetic soon
and I mean everyday this happens about 2-3 times. Xetic is really jumpy and waiting for stain to cross the line, everyone is all riled up. You might ask why but we all know the reason (FIX) and what is so awesome about his is Stain did basically a pirate action which has permanently ruined their reputation, and it has strained XeticÆs relationship so badly that the general Xetic person is just waiting for them to strike (many called for a removal of NAP). There is actually a political climate with cause and effect!!! It is really interesting and adds a dynamic level to the game I really appreciate.
Just wanted to point this out, donÆt want a flame fest, Stain have a lot of cool players and so does Xetic and many are friends. They either shot them selves in the foot or are the road to interstellar conquest, only time will tell. I'm just saying how cool it is on a game level that diplomacy and reputation have an effect.
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Arzuanne
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:33:00 -
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lol
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:35:00 -
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Lol
Tick tick
hello fix alt.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
bobby builders
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Chowdown
Lol
Tick tick
hello fix alt.
If i'm a FIX alt how am i in Xetic allaince chat? I'm a Xetic alt but I don't want to bring heat on my corp but at the same time i want to point out how cool this is. seriously.
If you were in the Xetic allance chat you'd know what I'm talking about. This is a prime exsample of politics on EVE and reall the only case I've seen with such backlash, its freaking awesome!!! |
Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:39:00 -
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sorry chowdown..
you should know us far better,
we don t use alt for forum
when we have to say something, we do
we are proud to be FIX ! we claim it, as higth we can
we aren t like some other , the kind of peopple that are hiding under false name
Carbide industries.
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Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Chowdown on 18/02/2005 15:42:01
Edited by: Chowdown on 18/02/2005 15:39:27
Originally by: bobby builders
Originally by: Chowdown
Lol
Tick tick
hello fix alt.
If i'm a FIX alt how am i in Xetic allaince chat? I'm a Xetic alt but I don't want to bring heat on my corp but at the same time i want to point out how cool this is. seriously.
If you were in the Xetic allance chat you'd know what I'm talking about. This is a prime exsample of politics on EVE and reall the only case I've seen with such backlash, its freaking awesome!!!
Yes cause it is really hard to get into XETIC.
But that is irrelevant, as you are not in there chat, otherwise you would know how close XETIC and SE are, and that your attempts to take some of the heat off your alliance are futile.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Chowdown
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Axia Firehead
sorry chowdown..
you should know us far better,
we don t use alt for forum
when we have to say something, we do
we are proud to be FIX ! we claim it, as higth we can
we aren t like some other , the kind of peopple that are hiding under false name
Never discount the stupid uninformed member that just lost a hauler to a stain inty. 
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |
Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:44:00 -
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even ours haulers are ready to defend themselves, or, at least,should be.
Carbide industries.
Combat director |
Weebear
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Weebear on 18/02/2005 15:44:18
So errrr whats everyones favourite co.cktails to go with those ummmm sandwiches?
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Honor and Serve!
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:48:00 -
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Edited by: MadGaz on 18/02/2005 15:50:25
[ 2005.02.18 15:42:25 ] ***** > im being told that FIX alts are trying to get us at war with Stain?
Oh look another chat log from xetic alliance chat, I'm a xetic alt honestly.
-edit- Hmmm seems that this alt was on about JQA stuff in his last posts, hard to say who's alt he is.
Probably not fix so I apologise to fix members 
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Axia Firehead
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:49:00 -
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if bobby builder is a alt from us, then, action willbe taken against him.
it s not in our way to spread this kind of feeble political maneuver, and we cannot accept this in our rank.
Carbide industries.
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rhumbline
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Posted - 2005.02.18 15:56:00 -
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just to let you know, i was there when the xetic guy got popped in hed. it was a mess-up with standings. nothing more and very regrettable.
stain wont go to war with xetic. friends are what they are, and friends they will stay.
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xenorx
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:02:00 -
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Bobby I totally agree. The political winds in this game are facinating to see. Personaly, I dont think it is a matter of "If" SE will attack. It is more a matter of "When". Those "accidental" shootings will become more and more common. The NAP you guys have is not worth squat. FIX learned this. SE is currently trigger happy and love to shoot their neighbors.
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:04:00 -
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I've been curious about this alt posting. As a political hack, I can see someone's need to discuss something that truly interestes them - politics - without trying to bring heat on their own corp.
I've read the original posters thread about 8 times now, and I get no sense whatsoever he is trying to stir the pot. I see it more as "observation - want to discuss without getting friends/corp in crap - post with alt"
This comes with a huge caveat that I have issues with flame bait alt threads. I just don't get that sense here. No names mentioned, talking in generalities, possible slight against Stain, or perhaps better phrasing in future if you want a better discussion. IE - Instead of Stain ruining their reputation, could have said "actions taken by Stain may have jeopardised their reputation". Let the Eve community decide, not you. They're smart folks and will draw their own conclusions for one way or another.
Anyways, my whole point of this post if someone wants to discuss generalities without getting their corp/friends in heat, how do they do it then without alts?
CJ
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Diala
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:07:00 -
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Edited by: Diala on 18/02/2005 16:07:17
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Celticjim
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:08:00 -
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Quote:
Consider when PaulAtradies (thundercats) recently blasted a Xetic member running through HED. Immediately everyone assumed, ôoh the warmongering Stain guys are at war with usö and people started mobilizing talking about where there assets were and how we should respond to StainÆs aggression (see anymore everyone just assumes Stain is attacking rather than a mistake was made).
Gah..I'm an idiot. I completely missed this even after reading so many times. Mr Alt, I take it back. Started to defend you, but now realize you are stirring pot. Use your main and grab some cajoles(cajones? can't remember word)
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: bobby builders
Originally by: Chowdown
Lol
Tick tick
hello fix alt.
If i'm a FIX alt how am i in Xetic allaince chat? I'm a Xetic alt but I don't want to bring heat on my corp but at the same time i want to point out how cool this is. seriously.
If you were in the Xetic allance chat you'd know what I'm talking about. This is a prime exsample of politics on EVE and reall the only case I've seen with such backlash, its freaking awesome!!!
This is the best proof for something since the Chewbacca defense
"I am a member of this alliance because I typed this here: "xxx > stain will attack xif" <- see omg I am in Xetic"
Sometimes I wish CCP implemented a feature to the forums so every person who posted would have all his other character's names listed under the name of the one he's using at that time. It wouldn't solve the alts posting scandals problem completely but it would kick the problem well and firmly in the nuts 
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: xenorx
Bobby I totally agree. The political winds in this game are facinating to see. Personaly, I dont think it is a matter of "If" SE will attack. It is more a matter of "When". Those "accidental" shootings will become more and more common. The NAP you guys have is not worth squat. FIX learned this. SE is currently trigger happy and love to shoot their neighbors.
Mr. nobody, we don't just have a "nap" with Xif, we have a MDP (Mutual Defense Pact) and that makes them our most trusted allies.
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Crass Spektakel
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:19:00 -
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XETIC is recently plagued by several pre-teen alts running around in alliance-channels and trying to stear up war with almost everyone in the universe.
We simply are to cool to make much of a deal about them. With an average membership-age of below one week they have not even enough access rights to mine Veldspar in Yulai so you might also ignore them. I do.
Crass Spektakel
life is short and in most cases it ends with death
but my tombstone will carry the hiscore
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: AvanCade on 18/02/2005 16:39:40
I'd give stain the space, the more space they get, the less far away their downfall is. (Roman empire, etc...)
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rhumbline
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Crass Spektakel
XETIC is recently plagued by several pre-teen alts running around in alliance-channels and trying to stear up war with almost everyone in the universe.
We simply are to cool to make much of a deal about them. With an average membership-age of below one week they have not even enough access rights to mine Veldspar in Yulai so you might also ignore them. I do.
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xenorx
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: xenorx
Bobby I totally agree. The political winds in this game are facinating to see. Personaly, I dont think it is a matter of "If" SE will attack. It is more a matter of "When". Those "accidental" shootings will become more and more common. The NAP you guys have is not worth squat. FIX learned this. SE is currently trigger happy and love to shoot their neighbors.
Mr. nobody, we don't just have a "nap" with Xif, we have a MDP (Mutual Defense Pact) and that makes them our most trusted allies.
LOL! Of course FIX had a NAP with SE as well. When SE broke it a great many SE "nobodies" jumped into these forums trying to justify it as not convenient or benificial to SE anymore. So I stand by what I said. Anyone with a NAP or any other agreement with SE cannot count on it. It might not be convienent or benificial for SE if they get board and need someone to shoot at for entertainment.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:41:00 -
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Xetic <-> Stain is not a NAP. They are allied. Allies go further then not shooting on eachother.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:42:00 -
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ohhh STFU please if i see one more thread about SE being ebil im gonna cry... u ever thought we might have just been bored we were prieraly a military alliance with nothing to shoot fix were handy.. i could be wrong but just top moaning please im sorry fix carnt mine there veldspar in peace no i rally am.
MASS_Nick Curso
Military Commander
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:46:00 -
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FIX Folks
There's no need for any of us to justify or be involved with this thread. If at all possible let us, as a group, focus our attention on other threads (ones that involve FIX). Relations between Xetic and SE are not the concern of FIX and we have no input into those relations.
Not sure who the original poster was, but I don't recognize the verbiage used to be that of any FIX member (not to say it couldn't be, just that it likely isn't one of our more prominent members).
Thanks all!
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Damajink
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Damajink on 18/02/2005 17:37:43
nevermind
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Sternburg Export
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: bobby builders
Every day in Alliance chat Xetic folks have the same conversation at least twice while I am on, ôwhen will Stain attack?ö This is quite possibly the coolest situtation IÆve ever seen. Politics and reactions just like in RL.
Consider when PaulAtradies (thundercats) recently blasted a Xetic member running through HED. Immediately everyone assumed, ôoh the warmongering Stain guys are at war with usö and people started mobilizing talking about where there assets were and how we should respond to StainÆs aggression (see anymore everyone just assumes Stain is attacking rather than a mistake was made).
Every day someone says things like:
[ 2005.02.18 15:07:25 ] ***** > im being told stain are going to attack xetic soon
and I mean everyday this happens about 2-3 times. Xetic is really jumpy and waiting for stain to cross the line, everyone is all riled up. You might ask why but we all know the reason (FIX) and what is so awesome about his is Stain did basically a pirate action which has permanently ruined their reputation, and it has strained XeticÆs relationship so badly that the general Xetic person is just waiting for them to strike (many called for a removal of NAP). There is actually a political climate with cause and effect!!! It is really interesting and adds a dynamic level to the game I really appreciate.
Just wanted to point this out, donÆt want a flame fest, Stain have a lot of cool players and so does Xetic and many are friends. They either shot them selves in the foot or are the road to interstellar conquest, only time will tell. I'm just saying how cool it is on a game level that diplomacy and reputation have an effect.
LoL
Stain and XF are allies...
This post is totaly Bull****...
And if fix want war between, XF and SE.. i can tell u this...
Personaly i¦ll shoot at fix people if needed, before i fire a shot at SE...
and i¦m sure a few people in XF would shoot fix before they shoot SE ;)
And now...
go and do something usefull 
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[ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
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Synthemesc
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:48:00 -
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There is nothing but <3 and respect between SE and Xetic. This ploy isn't going to work no matter how many times it's tried. Thanks for the light comedy relief though
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Andromedus
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:54:00 -
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The day SE goes to war with Xetic is the day EVE goes offline forever.
The action Stain took with setting Fix to kos was not piratical in any way and had full justification on our part.
SE stands by it¦s true friends, and we count Xetic as a true friend.
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: olyyyyy on 18/02/2005 17:55:27
awww... for a second I thought I was on comedy boards
What Andromedus said otherwise. XF and SE are not only allies, they are friends.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Jehnr Exec
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Posted - 2005.02.18 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jehnr Exec on 18/02/2005 18:23:13
Edited by: Jehnr Exec on 18/02/2005 18:09:48
Originally by: Andromedus
The action Stain took with setting Fix to kos was not piratical in any way and had full justification on our part.
SE stands by it¦s true friends, and we count Xetic as a true friend.
S3vyn as an official FIX diplomat has stated this has nothing to do with FIX whatsoever, we dont know who this bobby builder person is. FIX is not interested in the SE/XF relationship, and there is no need to state over and over again what "true friends" you are to Xetic and mention us in the same paragraph. However, you couldnt just let it be, you have to drag FIX into it ... /emote shakes head........
You had no justification whatsoever to attack FIX, and you have already stated in other posts that a lot of what is happening in the south is because "the pvpers need something to shoot at" .. that does not qualify as justification, SE broke the NAP with FIX cause they felt like it/bored/needed something to shoot at/felt the urge to control the south entirely, that is the truth.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.02.18 18:22:00 -
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I find this very unlikely, but it would be fun to see the two biggest alliances going at each other!
But the carebears rule alliances unfortunatly.
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Avec Freedom
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Posted - 2005.02.18 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Avec Freedom on 19/02/2005 03:06:51
Originally by: Jehnr Exec
Edited by: Jehnr Exec on 18/02/2005 18:09:48
Originally by: Andromedus
The action Stain took with setting Fix to kos was not piratical in any way and had full justification on our part.
SE stands by it¦s true friends, and we count Xetic as a true friend.
S3vyn as an official FIX diplomat has stated this has nothing to do with FIX whatsoever, we dont know who this bobby builder person is. FIX is not interested in the SE/XF relationship, and there is no need to state it over and over again and mention us in the same paragraph. However, you couldnt just let it be, you have to drag FIX into it ... /emote shakes head........
You had no justification whatsoever to attack FIX, and you have already stated in other posts that a lot of what is happening in the south is because "the pvpers need something to shoot at" .. that does not qualify as justification, SE broke the NAP with FIX cause they felt like it/bored/needed something to shoot at/felt the urge to control the south entirely, that is the truth.
Yea and if you Remember he also said to not post in this topic but Apparently you dont listen very well! Always have to put in your 1.5 cents dont you jehnr exec.
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Andromedus
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Posted - 2005.02.18 18:58:00 -
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Edited by: Andromedus on 18/02/2005 18:58:34
Originally by: Jehnr Exec
Edited by: Jehnr Exec on 18/02/2005 18:23:13
Edited by: Jehnr Exec on 18/02/2005 18:09:48
Originally by: Andromedus
The action Stain took with setting Fix to kos was not piratical in any way and had full justification on our part.
SE stands by it¦s true friends, and we count Xetic as a true friend.
S3vyn as an official FIX diplomat has stated this has nothing to do with FIX whatsoever, we dont know who this bobby builder person is. FIX is not interested in the SE/XF relationship, and there is no need to state over and over again what "true friends" you are to Xetic and mention us in the same paragraph. However, you couldnt just let it be, you have to drag FIX into it ... /emote shakes head........
You had no justification whatsoever to attack FIX, and you have already stated in other posts that a lot of what is happening in the south is because "the pvpers need something to shoot at" .. that does not qualify as justification, SE broke the NAP with FIX cause they felt like it/bored/needed something to shoot at/felt the urge to control the south entirely, that is the truth.
only responding to what this bobby persoin said.
as to you, you can stop posting bull**** aswell as you arent informed at all about
what transpired, not my job to inform you either..
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batloard
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Posted - 2005.02.18 19:24:00 -
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ok ok im tired of hearing about how se attacked fix .
fix get over it they attacked you get your butts in a ship go out and attack se.sitting in 9cg hopeing they will go away because there board.if some 1 came in to my home i would kick there a** all the way back to there home.
by the way thats what we are doing
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seanb29
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: seanb29 on 18/02/2005 20:15:39
Edited by: seanb29 on 18/02/2005 20:14:06
hmmm i just like to reply to what this bobby person said it strange am a xetic and i never seen any post made in allaince chat about what u say was said,and se+xetic dont have a nap. stain is our ally and friend and if u was really a xetic member u would know that so before u come here and try to start crap between us and stain plz get your facts right
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xenorx
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso
ohhh STFU please if i see one more thread about SE being ebil im gonna cry... u ever thought we might have just been bored we were prieraly a military alliance with nothing to shoot fix were handy.. i could be wrong but just top moaning please im sorry fix carnt mine there veldspar in peace no i rally am.
MASS_Nick Curso
Military Commander
Thank you Nick for your honest post. You have confirmed my point and I rest my case.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:21:00 -
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ell oh ell.
This one time, in Xetic Alliance chat, I stuck a flute in my *****.
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Booju
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: NAFnist
I find this very unlikely, but it would be fun to see the two biggest alliances going at each other!
But the carebears rule alliances unfortunatly.
Certainly wouldn't happen with XETIC, they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Heck, a 5-man alt corp is currently kicking their arses. You should see their Alliance chat light up when SAS ganks one of their haulers.
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seanb29
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:55:00 -
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roflmao booju it seems to me that 5 man corp is really a 9 man corp fyi:P and they mostly been either docking or logging off mostly and the most i have seen from that corp on at one time was 4 members so stfu like i said before get your facts right before u post
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Booju
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Posted - 2005.02.18 21:08:00 -
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Oh whoops! Sorry, that totally changes everything. So rather than fighting 900 to 1 odds they're only fighting 500 to 1, that's such an even fight.
Still, the mighty (*snicker*) XETIC fleet has been unable to remove them, doesn't that say much for the PVP capabilities of XETIC?
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.02.18 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Booju
Originally by: NAFnist
I find this very unlikely, but it would be fun to see the two biggest alliances going at each other!
But the carebears rule alliances unfortunatly.
Certainly wouldn't happen with XETIC, they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Heck, a 5-man alt corp is currently kicking their arses. You should see their Alliance chat light up when SAS ganks one of their haulers.
I have to admit that killing our haulers = kicking our asses
But well, if ganking a few XF pilots in empire helps you to feel important...
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.02.18 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Booju
Oh whoops! Sorry, that totally changes everything. So rather than fighting 900 to 1 odds they're only fighting 500 to 1, that's such an even fight.
They declared the war. They brought it upon themselves.
Originally by: Booju
Still, the mighty (*snicker*) XETIC fleet has been unable to remove them, doesn't that say much for the PVP capabilities of XETIC?
You're absolutly right. We have been completely unable to remove them from their stations and safespots.
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Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2005.02.18 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Darrin Tobruk
Originally by: Booju
Oh whoops! Sorry, that totally changes everything. So rather than fighting 900 to 1 odds they're only fighting 500 to 1, that's such an even fight.
They declared the war. They brought it upon themselves.
Originally by: Booju
Still, the mighty (*snicker*) XETIC fleet has been unable to remove them, doesn't that say much for the PVP capabilities of XETIC?
You're absolutly right. We have been completely unable to remove them from their stations and safespots.
Don't forget that we are unable to stop them from logging off too...
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.02.18 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jehnr Exec
You had no justification whatsoever to attack FIX, and you have already stated in other posts that a lot of what is happening in the south is because "the pvpers need something to shoot at" .. that does not qualify as justification, SE broke the NAP with FIX cause they felt like it/bored/needed something to shoot at/felt the urge to control the south entirely, that is the truth.
Let me say this AGAIN for like the 4th time. Fix was warned about shooting SEÆs allies (ATUK, EVOL) and ignored the warning. SE did not start the hostilities. They responded to FIXÆs hostilities toured us. And if you think that this is misinformation, we have logs of the conversation between Stan and FIXÆs diplomats. ItÆs posted on out forums for all of ATUK to see what went on. We asked for passage thru A2 and were declined. SE warned FIX not to shoot us and were ignored. Again. DonÆt blame anyone but FIXÆs diplomats for the hostilities toured FIX.
The truth will set you free
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cayote XIII
Originally by: Darrin Tobruk
Originally by: Booju
Oh whoops! Sorry, that totally changes everything. So rather than fighting 900 to 1 odds they're only fighting 500 to 1, that's such an even fight.
They declared the war. They brought it upon themselves.
Originally by: Booju
Still, the mighty (*snicker*) XETIC fleet has been unable to remove them, doesn't that say much for the PVP capabilities of XETIC?
You're absolutly right. We have been completely unable to remove them from their stations and safespots.
Don't forget that we are unable to stop them from logging off too...
Damn, we really suck... 
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Aeleva
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:33:00 -
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Similar to real life, OMG the americans killes some british troops in a war zone!!111oneone Lets OMGWTF pwn them!!!
Load of bull tbh, considering the member base of both alliances combined is around 6000-8000 you can expect this sorta thing to happen some times. Every alliance is plagued with morons who jump to conclusions far too quickly and think they are the best and can take on the whole universe. Luckily there are enough leaders around to quash this sorta crap before it gets out of control.
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Booju
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:39:00 -
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Yes, very droll. I think the replies here just go to show why XETIC are regarded as the assclowns of EVE. Exactly how many SAS have you killed and how many XF ships have they killed? I think the ratio is still very much in their favour. It was the same story with Company of Wolves and Shadow Squadron. XF are a bunch of smack-talking nublets who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. No wonder all the pirate corps declare on XF when they want to blow stuff up, XF are soft.
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Booju
Yes, very droll. I think the replies here just go to show why XETIC are regarded as the assclowns of EVE. Exactly how many SAS have you killed and how many XF ships have they killed? I think the ratio is still very much in their favour. It was the same story with Company of Wolves and Shadow Squadron. XF are a bunch of smack-talking nublets who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. No wonder all the pirate corps declare on XF when they want to blow stuff up, XF are soft.
Of course you don't know a thing about smack-talk do you? Hmm you obviously didn't train your alt in that skill did you.
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.02.19 00:06:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Booju
Yes, very droll. I think the replies here just go to show why XETIC are regarded as the assclowns of EVE. Exactly how many SAS have you killed and how many XF ships have they killed? I think the ratio is still very much in their favour. It was the same story with Company of Wolves and Shadow Squadron. XF are a bunch of smack-talking nublets who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. No wonder all the pirate corps declare on XF when they want to blow stuff up, XF are soft.
They probably do. Why? The plan is quite simple: Hit indies, miners, and solo travellers then run to the station or safespot when any organized resistance shows up. They might have more kills, but how many are quality kills.
BTW, post with your main. I'm tired of trading words with a stupid alt.
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Booju
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Posted - 2005.02.19 00:08:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Larno
Originally by: Booju
Yes, very droll. I think the replies here just go to show why XETIC are regarded as the assclowns of EVE. Exactly how many SAS have you killed and how many XF ships have they killed? I think the ratio is still very much in their favour. It was the same story with Company of Wolves and Shadow Squadron. XF are a bunch of smack-talking nublets who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. No wonder all the pirate corps declare on XF when they want to blow stuff up, XF are soft.
Of course you don't know a thing about smack-talk do you? Hmm you obviously didn't train your alt in that skill did you.
You can't train skills of two characters on one acount :< Got just about enough skillpoints to fly a suicide kestrel. My main (who's in XF, actually) is the character with the Lvl5 in smack :P
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.02.19 00:21:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Booju
My main (who's in XF, actually) is the character with the Lvl5 in smack :P
omg! Olyyyy???
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Primer Xenius
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Posted - 2005.02.19 01:11:00 -
[53]
The defense pact and current relationship between SE and XETIC came from a much more troubled time. In the time of CA, both our alliances, at first, worked on their own and at times suffered heavily for it. The realization came that if SE and XETIC maintain good working relations, its very likely they will hold their homeland against any threat.
As with any close union of 8000+ pilots (inc alts), there are opinions and differences over various issues. However, the fundamental importance of this pact to both sides has never come into doubt.
"we all know CA planned to attack Xetic "when the time was right" from day1" - Lallante
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Eenkie
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Posted - 2005.02.19 01:13:00 -
[54]
Summation:
XF is not FIX. This fact has not escaped SE.
mmmkay.
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Nathan Voughn
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Posted - 2005.02.19 03:13:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Nathan Voughn on 19/02/2005 03:14:22
Edited by: Nathan Voughn on 19/02/2005 03:13:52
Originally by: Metal Dude
Let me say this AGAIN for like the 4th time. Fix was warned about shooting SEÆs allies (ATUK, EVOL) and ignored the warning. SE did not start the hostilities. They responded to FIXÆs hostilities toured us. And if you think that this is misinformation, we have logs of the conversation between Stan and FIXÆs diplomats. ItÆs posted on out forums for all of ATUK to see what went on. We asked for passage thru A2 and were declined. SE warned FIX not to shoot us and were ignored. Again. DonÆt blame anyone but FIXÆs diplomats for the hostilities toured FIX.
Hey Metal Dude, do me a favore: dont fall for self created propaganda, doesnt suit you.
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.02.19 04:03:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Booju
Originally by: Larno
Originally by: Booju
Yes, very droll. I think the replies here just go to show why XETIC are regarded as the assclowns of EVE. Exactly how many SAS have you killed and how many XF ships have they killed? I think the ratio is still very much in their favour. It was the same story with Company of Wolves and Shadow Squadron. XF are a bunch of smack-talking nublets who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. No wonder all the pirate corps declare on XF when they want to blow stuff up, XF are soft.
Of course you don't know a thing about smack-talk do you? Hmm you obviously didn't train your alt in that skill did you.
You can't train skills of two characters on one acount :< Got just about enough skillpoints to fly a suicide kestrel. My main (who's in XF, actually) is the character with the Lvl5 in smack :P
Not going to answer my question? Oh well...
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GodEmperor
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Posted - 2005.02.19 05:25:00 -
[57]
nananananananananan ALTMAN!!!!!
To the Altmobile! ! ! ! !
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angelcon
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Posted - 2005.02.19 06:10:00 -
[58]
maby you dident know SE and xf are well f*** buddies they have mass orgyes xf = lil SE umk |
Morela
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Posted - 2005.02.19 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: angelcon
maby you dident know SE and xf are well f*** buddies they have mass orgyes xf = lil SE umk
Lies, all those pictures were destroyed!!
Err. wait a sec. there were never any pictures.. ya.. thats it..
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.02.19 08:43:00 -
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Quote:
Let me say this AGAIN for like the 4th time. Fix was warned about shooting SEÆs allies (ATUK, EVOL) and ignored the warning. SE did not start the hostilities. They responded to FIXÆs hostilities toured us. And if you think that this is misinformation, we have logs of the conversation between Stan and FIXÆs diplomats. ItÆs posted on out forums for all of ATUK to see what went on. We asked for passage thru A2 and were declined. SE warned FIX not to shoot us and were ignored. Again. DonÆt blame anyone but FIXÆs diplomats for the hostilities toured FIX.
hehehe
"We brake for nobody"
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Booju
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Posted - 2005.02.19 10:13:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Booju on 19/02/2005 10:15:30
Originally by: Darrin Tobruk
Originally by: Booju
Originally by: Larno
Originally by: Booju
Yes, very droll. I think the replies here just go to show why XETIC are regarded as the assclowns of EVE. Exactly how many SAS have you killed and how many XF ships have they killed? I think the ratio is still very much in their favour. It was the same story with Company of Wolves and Shadow Squadron. XF are a bunch of smack-talking nublets who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. No wonder all the pirate corps declare on XF when they want to blow stuff up, XF are soft.
Of course you don't know a thing about smack-talk do you? Hmm you obviously didn't train your alt in that skill did you.
You can't train skills of two characters on one acount :< Got just about enough skillpoints to fly a suicide kestrel. My main (who's in XF, actually) is the character with the Lvl5 in smack :P
Not going to answer my question? Oh well...
Ah, quality kills, there's a stupid term. Quite a few really if you look at their eve-kills stats, they've downed a couple of battleships. It's not all about the kills though, it's the disruption. Can you do business effectively with a bunch of pirates cate-sniping you in the Yulai region?
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2005.02.19 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: PaulAtreides on 19/02/2005 11:17:54
Originally by: bobby builders
Consider when PaulAtreides (Thundercats) recently blasted a Xetic member running through HED. Immediately everyone assumed, ôoh the warmongering Stain guys are at war with usö and people started mobilizing talking about where there assets were and how we should respond to StainÆs aggression (see anymore everyone just assumes Stain is attacking rather than a mistake was made).
I would just like to clarify this situation and clear any grievances that this might cause (even though I have cleared this up before).. (  )
1. I shot, but did not kill.
2. That was a new corp to xetic and my corps standings had not yet been set.
3. It's hard to keep up with all the new corps in xetic.. you guys get like 500 more players every month!
4. I took steps to ensure that I got an up to date corp list from Xetic which I relayed to the SE forums.
Edit: Oh and it was in SV5, not HED.
Trust me when I say... SE really love and appreciate Xetic. You guys are a ray of light on dark times. SE has been framed as "ebil" by many corps and individuals who have ulterior motives at heart. Trust not your enemies and have faith in your allies. We certainly do in you.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2005.02.19 11:37:00 -
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Quote:
You guys are a ray of light on dark times
How sweet. You are my sunshine, my only sunshine..
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2005.02.19 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan
Quote:
You guys are a ray of light on dark times
How sweet. You are my sunshine, my only sunshine..
OMGU2!!
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Byarne
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Posted - 2005.02.19 12:24:00 -
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Xetic is Stain's empire long lost brother... we will not attack Xetic. at any point. unless paying them back there loss ;). Stain Empire looks at Xetic as there own and hope like wise from them.
SE will not attack Xetic. <- offical respons from Stain Empire.
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2005.02.19 12:27:00 -
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Edited by: OMGWTFHAX on 19/02/2005 12:28:07
Originally by: AvanCade
Edited by: AvanCade on 18/02/2005 16:39:40
I'd give stain the space, the more space they get, the less far away their downfall is. (Roman empire, etc...)
actually the roman empire died because it had too much land for its military to defend, this combined with barbarian hordes migrating into their lands and wanting to be like romans, and adapted to roman way of fighting, and with roman army decreasing in effectivness, caused the downfall.
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olyyyyy
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Posted - 2005.02.19 12:33:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Krapz
Originally by: Booju
My main (who's in XF, actually) is the character with the Lvl5 in smack :P
omg! Olyyyy???
I do not recognize paternity for this alt o,o;;
Will check my accounts again tho to see if I can delete him :P Would be nice 
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.02.19 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: bobby builders
You might ask why but we all know the reason (FIX) and what is so awesome about his is Stain did basically a pirate action which has permanently ruined their reputation, and it has strained XeticÆs relationship so badly that the general Xetic person is just waiting for them to strike (many called for a removal of NAP).
this just proved your an fix alt
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.02.19 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Voughn
Edited by: Nathan Voughn on 19/02/2005 03:14:22
Edited by: Nathan Voughn on 19/02/2005 03:13:52
Originally by: Metal Dude
Let me say this AGAIN for like the 4th time. Fix was warned about shooting SEÆs allies (ATUK, EVOL) and ignored the warning. SE did not start the hostilities. They responded to FIXÆs hostilities toured us. And if you think that this is misinformation, we have logs of the conversation between Stan and FIXÆs diplomats. ItÆs posted on out forums for all of ATUK to see what went on. We asked for passage thru A2 and were declined. SE warned FIX not to shoot us and were ignored. Again. DonÆt blame anyone but FIXÆs diplomats for the hostilities toured FIX.
Hey Metal Dude, do me a favore: dont fall for self created propaganda, doesnt suit you.
Which part donÆt you believe and call propaganda? Do I have to go and search for past posts of SE warning EVERYONE about shooting their allies listing ATUK and EVOL? I think everyone read it. If you didnÆt, you are not informed very well and you should not be questioning a known fact.
Were you involved in the negotiations between ATUK and FIX at the beginning of the dispute? Have you seen the logs that IÆm talking about between Stan, Trigger and FIX diplomat, Droewa? If not, then what gives you the right to call me a liar? I donÆt appreciate that. IÆm no politician and I donÆt lie. You should know better than that being my ex corpmate.
Propaganda my ass. ItÆs the truth. Just because FIX wants to spin it like they are the innocent in this and we are the bad guys, IÆm not going to let them. Why is it so hard to admit that they stuck with their allies, the FA instead of Stain? Why is it so wrong for Stain to support theirs allies and stick with us? Why? Because they are trying to wedge a rift between SE and Xetic and everyone knows it.
Propaganda is coming from their side, not ours. Just look at the topic of this tread. Do you think this is out alt that started this thread? Looks like you are the one whoÆs falling for propaganda. IÆm just here to set the facts strait. Either way, it does not matter anyways. ItÆs the guns that are doing the talking now.
The truth will set you free
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2005.02.19 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 19/02/2005 20:35:14
Double post 
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |
Harry Voyager
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Posted - 2005.02.19 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Booju
Edited by: Booju on 19/02/2005 10:15:30
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Ah, quality kills, there's a stupid term. Quite a few really if you look at their eve-kills stats, they've downed a couple of battleships. It's not all about the kills though, it's the disruption. Can you do business effectively with a bunch of pirates cate-sniping you in the Yulai region?
As little love as I have for Xetic (well documented on the forums and chatlogs), I'll have to agree with them on this issue. 9 pilots popping the occational unaware indy in Empire are about as significant as a mild itching sensation on your big toe.
We caused them more grief in a single ghost fleet, than you guys have caused them in your entire war, and likely will cause them even if the war lasts for as long as Eve Online exists.
Harry Voyager.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2005.02.19 17:54:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Nathan Voughn
Edited by: Nathan Voughn on 19/02/2005 03:14:22
Edited by: Nathan Voughn on 19/02/2005 03:13:52
Originally by: Metal Dude
Let me say this AGAIN for like the 4th time. Fix was warned about shooting SEÆs allies (ATUK, EVOL) and ignored the warning. SE did not start the hostilities. They responded to FIXÆs hostilities toured us. And if you think that this is misinformation, we have logs of the conversation between Stan and FIXÆs diplomats. ItÆs posted on out forums for all of ATUK to see what went on. We asked for passage thru A2 and were declined. SE warned FIX not to shoot us and were ignored. Again. DonÆt blame anyone but FIXÆs diplomats for the hostilities toured FIX.
Hey Metal Dude, do me a favore: dont fall for self created propaganda, doesnt suit you.
Which part donÆt you believe and call propaganda? Do I have to go and search for past posts of SE warning EVERYONE about shooting their allies listing ATUK and EVOL? I think everyone read it. If you didnÆt, you are not informed very well and you should not be questioning a known fact.
Were you involved in the negotiations between ATUK and FIX at the beginning of the dispute? Have you seen the logs that IÆm talking about between Stan, Trigger and FIX diplomat, Droewa? If not, then what gives you the right to call me a liar? I donÆt appreciate that. IÆm no politician and I donÆt lie. You should know better than that being my ex corpmate.
Propaganda my ass. ItÆs the truth. Just because FIX wants to spin it like they are the innocent in this and we are the bad guys, IÆm not going to let them. Why is it so hard to admit that they stuck with their allies, the FA instead of Stain? Why is it so wrong for Stain to support theirs allies and stick with us? Why? Because they are trying to wedge a rift between SE and Xetic and everyone knows it.
Propaganda is coming from their side, not ours. Just look at the topic of this tread. Do you think this is out alt that started this thread? Looks like you are the one whoÆs falling for propaganda. IÆm just here to set the facts strait. Either way, it does not matter anyways. ItÆs the guns that are doing the talking now.
Hold on there. You weren't involved either, so you must not know everything either.
We have the logs too, but your silly ass wants to go and bring names into it. Great job, you're a credit to nubtastic political wannabes everywhere.
How about this, you post your logs and I'll post every one that preceded it where your illustrious, self-proclaimed "political dude" claimed he pulled the strings of SE AND BoB. I'll also post the one where our Diplomat requested access to discuss this with someone else in ATUK, then I'll post the ones where we tried to negotiate the deal ATUK wanted, then I'll post the ones where ATUK threatened to declare war if we didn't give them what they wanted. Then I'll post the ones where FIX told them "ya, so" and then I'll post the ones where ATUK cried to SE....
Quit being a nublar.
The reasons for the war are many, diverse and for the most part politically impotent. The reasons for NOT reaching a resolution are the most disturbing AND the ones that are of most concern to those who are involved, which you are not. So please don't pretend to be in the know because of what you have been SHOWN second hand.
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Elgin Marble
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Posted - 2005.02.19 19:11:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Byarne
Xetic is Stain's empire long lost brother... we will not attack Xetic. at any point. unless paying them back there loss ;). Stain Empire looks at Xetic as there own and hope like wise from them.
SE will not attack Xetic. <- offical respons from Stain Empire.
Lol, no, but MASS will
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.02.19 19:41:00 -
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I had to wonder what Metal Dude was referring to in his first post. He mentioned talks with Stan, I assumed you meant Stan Bowman, CEO of Shadow Company, current members of SE. To my knowledge, none of our diplomats had talked to Stan, but I wasn't positive, so I asked our own guys before coming here to reply to that.
So of our five diplomats, I got confirmation from three of the others, only having one I haven't heard back from yet. In the past, Avariel of BA pretty much headed up the diplomacy for the local corporations in the region before FIX was formed, and Shadow Company had always been on good relations with the local corporations here. When Shadow Company joined in on the attacks on FIX I thought it was a bit surprising, but left it at that.
It seems that Stan Bowman, is also Stizum Hildii. Now that does come as a surprise to us, since Stizum was the diplomatic representative of ATUK to FIX.
One final thing worth mentioning. For the conversation that took place between Trigger, Stizum, and FIX; it wasn't a FIX diplomat as you suggest that was talking there. Besides myself, the diplomats for FIX are:
S3VYN, Mrissa, Gritt Pebbledasher, Nez Perces.
I'm not claiming that what occured in that talk didn't happen, obviously it did. If you want to post it, go ahead.
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Byarne
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Posted - 2005.02.19 20:06:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Byarne on 19/02/2005 20:06:34
Originally by: Elgin Marble
Originally by: Byarne
Xetic is Stain's empire long lost brother... we will not attack Xetic. at any point. unless paying them back there loss ;). Stain Empire looks at Xetic as there own and hope like wise from them.
SE will not attack Xetic. <- offical respons from Stain Empire.
Lol, no, but MASS will
Lost a big chunk of your empire today Byarne. Be careful with what you wish for, it may just come true.
ohhh noeessss SE has known about MASS leaving for some time... and there resons etc...
what did i wish for? if stupid comment from u... it came true...
Your right your so right...
Trigger leaves SE to attack Xetic. ding ding ding.. i think he would just attack if he wanted without leaving...
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2005.02.19 22:56:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Booju
Ah, quality kills, there's a stupid term.
Not really. It tells how effective you are against your enemy.
Originally by: Booju
Quite a few really if you look at their eve-kills stats, they've downed a couple of battleships.
A couple? Trust me, if this is true, they've already been replaced including setups.
Originally by: Booju
It's not all about the kills though, it's the disruption.
What disruption?
Originally by: Booju
Can you do business effectively with a bunch of pirates cate-sniping you in the Yulai region?
Yes, because they run at the first sign of any form of organized resistance.
Next alt, please...
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Evegirl
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Posted - 2005.02.20 16:59:00 -
[77]
I think we all know why some SE corps started shooting @ FIX and why were those corps kicked from SE... 
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Icarus100
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Posted - 2005.02.20 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Icarus100 on 20/02/2005 18:08:02
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Lameth
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Posted - 2005.02.20 20:10:00 -
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Regarding the "you xetic guys can't even kill 5 pirates har har" thing;
A few pilots in whatever setup they have VS thousands upon thousands of ppl = alot of dead Xetic.
BUT 5 xetic dead VS 5 Pirates = 0.05% and 100% killed.
WOOT XETIC IS ACTUALLY WINNING! what? wouldn't have guessed?
I bet my furry little aSS Xetic have killed these guys more then a few times.
You are in the lead by atleast 700% the attacking corps size.
THIS is how you calculate succes if you are only looking at numbers.
If you are out to disrupt the enemy, you actually have to go into their home and disrupt their operations. This can be done.
Outkilling an alliance can't be done.
THis is what everyone in SE thought Celes would be doing to us, a few kills because they are good pvpers.
Turned out the bastards can blob aswell lol.
Persistance is the key word here.
And yes, SE like Xetic. Much lub and inbreeding
"reallife.dll not found"
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2005.02.20 20:18:00 -
[80]
Originally by: rhumbline
Originally by: Crass Spektakel
XETIC is recently plagued by several pre-teen alts running around in alliance-channels and trying to stear up war with almost everyone in the universe.
We simply are to cool to make much of a deal about them. With an average membership-age of below one week they have not even enough access rights to mine Veldspar in Yulai so you might also ignore them. I do.
omg long time no see
The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
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Morela
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Posted - 2005.02.20 21:48:00 -
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Xetic is our hero.. and the wind beneath our wings..
http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif |
Sundri Elaption
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Posted - 2005.02.20 21:59:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Sundri Elaption on 20/02/2005 21:59:49
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Koth Krakenworth
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Posted - 2005.02.20 22:32:00 -
[83]
Quote:
WOOT XETIC IS ACTUALLY WINNING! what? wouldn't have guessed?
I bet my furry little aSS Xetic have killed these guys more then a few times.
From what I've heard, S.A.S has gained loads from their war so far. Some of the ships they destroyed even had some extreme modules worth hundreds of millions. Even though they don't really pose a threat to the alliance as whole, it certainly should be a noticable thorn in Xetic's side. And since they've most likely earned a lot more then what they've lost, I can't see why they are loosing. I'm pretty sure they've got exactly what they wanted out of this war.
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes."
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