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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:20:00 -
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does anyone have any expirience with this card and eve and could give some advice if to buy it or not?
Thx
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Haratu
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:33:00 -
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Radeon 9600 series appears to work fine with me.
I have heard of a few bugs around, but i believe they were sorted out with simple driver upgrade.
ALWAYS check your drivers for latest upgrades.
If you do have problems then there are many computer part suppliers who are happy to exchange the card back for store credit or total refund.
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Billy Lajambe
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:37:00 -
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If you wanted a geforce solution a geforce FX 5500 OC 256 meg is a bit cheaper and still a nice card. (for eve i run max all settings with it)
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 16:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Billy Lajambe
If you wanted a geforce solution a geforce FX 5500 OC 256 meg is a bit cheaper and still a nice card. (for eve i run max all settings with it)
thx for the replies guys,
this is the other 2 i`ve been looking at:
GeForce FX5700LE 256 MB DDR $116
Nvidia EN6600TD,256Mb TV-out,DVI, PCIX $162
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Billy Lajambe
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:04:00 -
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Edited by: Billy Lajambe on 18/02/2005 17:04:44
Dotn even joke. The 5700 is about 4 times WORSE then the 6600. If it is on your list get it now. That is an amazing price. (american??) sill good cause here is it 350 canadian. (but u need to make sure it is the slot u have either agp or pci - e
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Eraza
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:08:00 -
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i have an ati radeon 9600XT in one of my comps, besides the fact that eve dosnt reset the gamma setting on this card(resulting in silly gamma values if the last game you played before starting eve up, was doom3 for excample) but a reboot fixes it easily...
besides that it's an awesome card, and eve runs very smoothly on it :)
i dont know anything about the LE 256 mb version though..
i also own a gf fx 5200,(sitting on a shelf atm), i must say, that card sucks big time, my old ti 4200 128mb outperformed it by quite a bit, so i swapped back :)
5700 i havent tried, but after the 5200, and some bad things i hear about the fx cards in general, i dont really want to try them :)
i have heard good things about the series the 6600 card is in, but never seen in in action myself
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:09:00 -
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I know 3 people with 9600 Radeons. All of them are experiencing frequent CTDs in Eve and other games.
Just my experience.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 18/02/2005 17:12:49
my bad, the $ should be euro`s (don`t know the sign :s)
could get the 6600 then and see how it behaves as a tv out is allways handy 
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Billy Lajambe
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:16:00 -
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its not even a soubt the 6600 is way better then anyother card u listed.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:19:00 -
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9600LE is junk--its a gimped 9600. Which is already gimped enough.
And 256MB is pointless with that card. If you're really short on cash, a TI4200 64MB is about 50-60% faster.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 18/02/2005 17:24:51
Edited by: Tenashi on 18/02/2005 17:24:21
Originally by: Dark Shikari
9600LE is junk--its a gimped 9600. Which is already gimped enough.
guess that`s why it`s on sale then for 89 euro 
the 6600 it`s gonna be then, the poor gf2 deperetly needs retirement 
thanks for the replies&advice, best part i like about eve 
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Aleksey Azameen
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:29:00 -
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Just make sure that you get the version that has the correct slot. The one you listed is a Pci-Express version, so you'll need a PCI-ex slot on your motherboard.
This was already mentioned, but I'm just re-emphasizing it .
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Droidster
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Droidster on 18/02/2005 17:45:48
This really goes in the hardware/support forum, but anyway...
I used a 9600 SE for about 10 months and had no problems but it got fried in power surge last week. I have changed to the Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT and would recommend that preferentially over the 9600 series. The reasons are:
1) Nvidia's driver system is much simpler than ATI's Catalyst system. In general you will probably have an easier time installing and using an Nvidia.
2) Radeons are more likely to cause you support problems. For example, when I first got the 9600 SE it did not work out of the box and I had to do massive driver downloads to get it to work.
Also, if you go with Nvidia I would recommend going with the 6600 series (or the 4000s), not the 5500s. The reason is that the 5500 series was brought to market too fast (in reaction to Radeon's 6600) and there were a lot of bugs. In the 6600 series the bugs have been worked out. If you need to save money you can use 4000s but these cards are kind of dated now.
Another important issue is cooling. One of the reason I originally picked the 9600 SE was because it did not have a fan which obviously adds complexity and bulk and noise. However, this may have been a mistake because the card probably ran hot. If the power surge had not gotten it, heat stroke probably would have killed it eventually.
In general Radeons run hotter than the GeForce 6600s which means that they probably will fail sooner.
Another reason for choosing Nvidia is that they have a reputation for have a far superior dual monitor system than ATI's cards so if you ever plan to run a dual monitor that is key factor.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:52:00 -
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The new Radeon series far out performs the 9000 series cards. Get an ATI X700.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2005.02.18 17:58:00 -
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One reason to buy ATI over Nvidia is Microsofts partnership with ATI. Specific features are being built on all new MS software products to boost performance when using an ATI card (read as - the new graghics engine being built for the new 64bit version of Windows known as "Longhorn" are being designed with ATI cards in mind). Most of Nvidias cards are also OEM so good luck with support. Not to mention they get outperformed by ATI cards in every recognized benchmark test.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.18 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/02/2005 18:41:22
Originally by: Demarcus
The new Radeon series far out performs the 9000 series cards. Get an ATI X700.
The 6600GT is quite a bit faster than the x700. While ATI completely OMGWTFPWNED nVidia in the last generation, nVidia has won the low end (6200 vs x300 is a joke--the 6200 in some cases can outperform a 9800 Pro, while the x300 is as bad as an FX5200, nVidia has won the medium end (the 6600GT beats the x700 Pro hands down, and the x700XT is currently vaporware), and nVidia has about tied the high end (x800 is about tied with 6800, about 5-10% performacne difference).
No retail cards are sold as OEMs--and ATI has more of a quality problem with that--their "Built By ATI" cards are made by PCPartner, which has a "reputation"...  . And any card you get with an OEM PC will be OEM, meaning you have to call up Dell/etc anyways. Which is another reason you don't get a Dell.
ATI is not in bed with microsoft any more than nVidia is. For the price range he's looking at, nVidia is light years ahead of ATI. ATI only becomes a competitor at the top ranges (at least this generation)--the x800XT is a great card.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 19:09:00 -
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fate desided that it would be an 9800 pro (atlantis?) as my old trusty workhorse does not have 8x AGP but it is still better then an gf3 ti200
never used ati sooooo hope it will start after a reboot
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.18 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/02/2005 19:17:34
Originally by: Tenashi
fate desided that it would be an 9800 pro (atlantis?) as my old trusty workhorse does not have 8x AGP but it is still better then an gf3 ti200
never used ati sooooo hope it will start after a reboot
9800 Pro is a great card for the price--not as good as the 6600GT but nearly as fast. And 8x AGP means nothing at all--modern cards hardly utilize 4x, meaning that 8x gives basically zero boost.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2005.02.18 19:27:00 -
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I can recommend 9800 Pro 256MB. Great cards, very stable and a great bang for the buck.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/02/2005 19:17:34
Originally by: Tenashi
fate desided that it would be an 9800 pro (atlantis?) as my old trusty workhorse does not have 8x AGP but it is still better then an gf3 ti200
never used ati sooooo hope it will start after a reboot
9800 Pro is a great card for the price--not as good as the 6600GT but nearly as fast. And 8x AGP means nothing at all--modern cards hardly utilize 4x, meaning that 8x gives basically zero boost.
wouldn`t know, just saw the technical requierments that u need an free 8x agp port with no support for 4x (what ever? :), wich i don`t have and didn`t want to get any problems with this old board, was even cheaper so not complaining till next major hardware upgrade
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tenashi
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/02/2005 19:17:34
Originally by: Tenashi
fate desided that it would be an 9800 pro (atlantis?) as my old trusty workhorse does not have 8x AGP but it is still better then an gf3 ti200
never used ati sooooo hope it will start after a reboot
9800 Pro is a great card for the price--not as good as the 6600GT but nearly as fast. And 8x AGP means nothing at all--modern cards hardly utilize 4x, meaning that 8x gives basically zero boost.
wouldn`t know, just saw the technical requierments that u need an free 8x agp port with no support for 4x (what ever? :), wich i don`t have and didn`t want to get any problems with this old board, was even cheaper so not complaining till next major hardware upgrade
An 8x card works on 8x and 4x ports. A 4x card works on 4x and 2x. A 2x works on 2x and 1x ports.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 18/02/2005 20:25:20
only have 1 word then and it is:
crap 
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.02.18 21:23:00 -
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Never buy an ATI card with the LE suffex.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Never buy an ATI card with the LE suffex.
Or SE, or any FX series card.
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2005.02.18 23:18:00 -
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did some mining with the 9800 pro with added 512mb ram and must say it didn`t show any lag with 2 clients with other programs open (nice change)
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Judas Marr
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Posted - 2005.02.19 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Judas Marr on 19/02/2005 03:40:22
I'm using a 6600 and I love it. Had a few CTD problems with EVE (only), but they disappeared after I updated my drivers.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2005.02.19 04:05:00 -
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I have a 9600pro 256 and I've never had any problems with EVE or any other game.
I got it cos I'm unemployed and only had ú70 to spend, nice choice tbh
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.02.19 04:19:00 -
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9600pro is a good card..
i got a 9700pro right now and i love it.. no problems with eve
in the same pricerange, 6600gt is a good cart. should check them out
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