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Apocryphal Noise
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:37:00 -
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Obviously I must have missed this somewhere, but I can no longer play EVE as of Incarna 1.0, with the error 'outdated videocard' and it's lack of shader model 3.0 support. I only have a several year old laptop to play on while at college, (played everything up to Incarna fine, including large fleet fights) so I can only conclude that the new fangled CQ is to blame for the requirement.
My question is, is there anyway to trick the client into thinking I have shader model 3.0, and then choosing the 'don't load station environment' so I don't encounter any issues, or is it something more complex than that, and thus, unfixable.
Oh, and grats CCP, your broom cupboard that added literally no functionality to the game just took a dump on my internet spaceships. **** you.
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Dante6
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:40:00 -
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exact same problem here think the only solution looks like upgrading 
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Daenna Chrysi
Amarr
Omega Foundry Unit
Shadows Of Betrayal
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:44:00 -
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yeah looks like the only real purpose of this patch was to force people to upgrade, to high end gear that they will make obsolete in a year, and to get rid of those who cannot afford to upgrade. What a nice thing to do...
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Starwolf Omega
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:19:00 -
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so basically anyone who was scammed into buying a eve account before the incarnea cut us off should be entitled to a refund seeing as tho we didnt recaive the product we paid for and werent notifyed during the purchase of any softwere changes
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Nice Nicholas
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:25:00 -
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Hi is anyone from Eve going answer this question I have the same problem, did I miss something we all knew that some hardware would not work on the last major update but I donÆt remember seeing this mentioned anywhere????? Is there a work round?
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Skulker Darkon
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Posted - 2011.06.22 08:53:00 -
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same problem here, they should had at least mention it in a newsletter or smth. like this...
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Princess Anatola
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:10:00 -
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Same deal here.
I could deal with not being able to tattoo my character's face (even though I could mysteriously see everyone else's tattoo...)
However, I now have two subbed accounts and a couple bil isk-worth of plex bought directly from CCP that I can no longer access. To say I'm ****ed is an understatement.
I don't want Captain's Quarters; I don't need Captain's Quarters; if I wanted to play a Play Station game I'd go buy one.
What I paid for was to fly around in space -- and the hilariously infuriating part is that apparently if you can get in-game you can turn the awful "feature" off.
What's even cooler is that my corp is now left without a CEO and a COO.
Either fix this or give me my money back.
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Kagumichan
Degenerate Corp
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:28:00 -
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The silly thing is (for those of us who can get on and have noticed) shader model 3.0 doesn't look any different from shader model 2.0. I spent an extensive amount of time in the character customiser before Incarna and it still looks the same, in fact, it actually runs slower and crashes often. Why bother putting shader model 3.0 in at all? Seems kinda odd. It's nice to have a beautifull game with some of the best looking graphics rendering there is, but when it's causing more harm than good, there should at least be a way to turn the advanced graphics off.
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galadrea zenallast
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:38:00 -
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please CCP save my eve
I just applied 2 plex to my account three days ago, im going afk all summer but now i cant even set skills.
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:45:00 -
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CCP notified over a year ago they were going to drop support for Shader Model 2.0. At the same time they were going to drop Shader Model 1.0 in the next patch. They also mentioned it I think twice more since then.
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The system issues man. |
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Skulker Darkon
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Lork Niffle
CCP notified over a year ago they were going to drop support for Shader Model 2.0. At the same time they were going to drop Shader Model 1.0 in the next patch. They also mentioned it I think twice more since then.
err, i started playing a few months ago... and i`m pretty sure the offical system requirements stated that shader 2.0 is ok for minium requirements
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
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Posted - 2011.06.22 09:56:00 -
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The requirements were stated for the time they existed. CCP released system requirements for Incarna a while ago and it mentioned after a year of saying it in devblogs and announcements that Shader Model 3.0 was going to be a requirement for this patch.
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The system issues man. |
Oyoban Kidimaru
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:29:00 -
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Any official word yet as to what we can do for a work-around for not having SM3? If not a work-around, how about an official statement to let those of us who cannot play now know we're being left out?
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Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
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Posted - 2011.06.22 10:40:00 -
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They have made statements already. You have to acquire a Shader Model 3.0 capable video card. This is the only supported solution.
There is also a program called 3D-Analyze that is used to emulate games on older/newer hardware that is incapable of running it. This is unsupported but some players had it working when Shader Model 1.0 was dropped.
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Meeshan Bathana
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:01:00 -
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Shader model 3.0 is not high end gear.
A geforce 210 which is considered a business graphics card can run it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130605
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Apocryphal Noise
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:13:00 -
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Oh ok they mentioned it 3-4 times in the past year, must have been busy those days -_-
As far as upgrading, it's a laptop, and an old one at that, so that isn't an option. And, being a college student taking 18 hours and thus no job, I don't really have the money either.
Meh. -$30 for your stupid closet CCP.
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Kagumichan
Degenerate Corp
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Meeshan Bathana
Shader model 3.0 is not high end gear.
A geforce 210 which is considered a business graphics card can run it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130605
I'm running on a Geforce 210, can't say I have any problems, apart from it getting a tad jumpy sometimes if I go mad with the settings, can even switch it between VGA and HD mode, and it only cost ú40, so the choice is:
On pay-day, do we buy Duke Nukem Forever, or the ability to play Eve?
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marivn goldfox
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:21:00 -
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Minimum System Requirements:
OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7
CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1,5 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2
RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB
HD space: 20Gb Free Space
Network:DSL connection or faster
Video:ATI X1600 or NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM*
Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers
DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required.
*Note that older graphics cards such as the Nvidia 6000 series may work but is not officially supported
from the minimum spec for eve. cant see anything about shader levels.
Also now can no longer play on a 2 Year old device and as everything is inbuilt would have to replace rather than upgrade. not a happy camper
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Kagumichan
Degenerate Corp
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: marivn goldfox
Minimum System Requirements:
OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7
CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1,5 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2
RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB
HD space: 20Gb Free Space
Network:DSL connection or faster
Video:ATI X1600 or NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT or higher with 128 MB of Video RAM*
Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers
DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required.
*Note that older graphics cards such as the Nvidia 6000 series may work but is not officially supported
from the minimum spec for eve. cant see anything about shader levels.
Also now can no longer play on a 2 Year old device and as everything is inbuilt would have to replace rather than upgrade. not a happy camper
All graphics cards from Ati x1600+ and Geforce 7300gt+ use Shader Model 3.0, so it's not required to mention it in the minimum specs, because it's default. The minimum specs basically say "if your graphics card is older than either of these two models, it may work, it may not." That's why they're called MINIMUM specs.
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Meeshan Bathana
Amarr
Tie Fighters
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kagumichan
Originally by: Meeshan Bathana
Shader model 3.0 is not high end gear.
A geforce 210 which is considered a business graphics card can run it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130605
I'm running on a Geforce 210, can't say I have any problems, apart from it getting a tad jumpy sometimes if I go mad with the settings, can even switch it between VGA and HD mode, and it only cost ú40, so the choice is:
On pay-day, do we buy Duke Nukem Forever, or the ability to play Eve?
Yeah I run three eve clients on my 210 worked fine all of last night. I even picked one up for my work computer for the times I jump on to see the corp chatter and check in.
As far as the laptop goes, I'm sorry. My laptop is now fail after incarna, good news is now I have a real reason to upgrade to a new laptop?
For anyone else you can usually put together a cheap gaming computer for eve for a couple hundred bucks check out DIY area of newegg and tigerdirect although I do prefer newegg.
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Verocity
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:32:00 -
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SM 3.0 has been around for 5 years now. It's not like they are dumping some new tech on you that came out only 6 months to a year ago. Any video card you buy, even sub $100, will have this feature. Sorry if some folks are mad because they are trying to update a good game with technology from half a decade ago.
MMOs change and, surprisingly, so do their system requirements.
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marivn goldfox
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 13:59:00 -
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OK, so did a bit of digging, and found the official announcement.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=882
appreciate that we were told, but for me it's very annoying to have bought a new machine that doesn't support the latest standards! not into all the technology behind all this so wouldn't know that it's not supported on my current chip set.
looks like several years of happy flying are over until i can afford new kit. well at least the wife will be happy!
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Apocryphal Noise
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Posted - 2011.06.22 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Verocity
SM 3.0 has been around for 5 years now. It's not like they are dumping some new tech on you that came out only 6 months to a year ago. Any video card you buy, even sub $100, will have this feature. Sorry if some folks are mad because they are trying to update a good game with technology from half a decade ago.
MMOs change and, surprisingly, so do their system requirements.
Lol, they didn't add SM 3.0 support, they removed SM 2.0 support.
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penifSMASH
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:04:00 -
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I'm about to buy a cheapo laptop. How can I tell if the graphics card (most likely an integrated one) can run Shader 3.0?
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Kagumichan
Degenerate Corp
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: penifSMASH
I'm about to buy a cheapo laptop. How can I tell if the graphics card (most likely an integrated one) can run Shader 3.0?
Best way probably would be to see if you can find out what graphics chipset (the laptop equivalent of a graphics card) it has in it then google the chipset to try and find the specs for it.
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Cathleia
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cathleia on 22/06/2011 16:15:34
Originally by: penifSMASH
I'm about to buy a cheapo laptop. How can I tell if the graphics card (most likely an integrated one) can run Shader 3.0?
As Kagumi said above me, google the GPU.
If the laptop is 'badly informed' as in 'HD Graphics!' without mentioning the chip it most likely isn't and will never be worth your money.
edit: I see this a lot with big stores as Carrefour in Europe, which is similar to Walmart in the US. I also see this quite often by small local 'scamming' PC stores.
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Demy Slade
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:13:00 -
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Shader 3.0 or not and be advised i do have a shader 4.0 able card it doesn't matter if the new features overload the GPU and Ram of the Card that epic that you can't have the CQ running and preview one of the great funny items. without sticking your ram into an infinte loop. Great Coding on CCP's Part.
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Xander Hunt
Minmatar
Dead Rats Tell No Tales
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Posted - 2011.06.22 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: marivn goldfox
OK, so did a bit of digging, and found the official announcement.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=882
appreciate that we were told, but for me it's very annoying to have bought a new machine that doesn't support the latest standards! not into all the technology behind all this so wouldn't know that it's not supported on my current chip set.
looks like several years of happy flying are over until i can afford new kit. well at least the wife will be happy!
If you bought a new machine, and it doesn't have Shader 3, you got screwed. I hope its a used but "New to me" machine, otherwise, sorry 'bout your luck.
Little late now, but, some advice...
If you're going to be playing a graphical game, such as EVE, WoW, Need For Speed, whatever... Don't penny pinch on the video card. That device will make or break a machine when it comes to gaming, period. Skimp on the CPU and memory, sink money into the motherboard and video.
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Princess Anatola
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Posted - 2011.06.22 17:55:00 -
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"Please note that although we are discontinuing support of Shader Model 2 we will not actively block those cards from running the client. It is therefore possible that players with that hardware will be able to run EVE for some time afterward."
1st not everyone reads the devblogs every single day -- and 2nd I don't recall getting an email telling me they were going to now actively block my card from running the client.
I did, however, get a pop-up warning in-game telling me that I couldn't tattoo my character due to my shader model 2. At that point and shrugged and said heck, I didn't want a tattoo anyway.
Would it have killed them to also state in the pop-up "...and anyone running Shader Model 2 will not be able to run the game PERIOD once the Incarna Expansion is live" ?
At that point I would have planned my subscriptions and plex purchases accordingly -- as my laptop (which is only 2 years old) can't be upgraded.
I can understand the dev's wish to put in content that older players totally hate in order to pander to the 13 year olds who can't quite make the transition from WoW to EvE.
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Ladrial
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Posted - 2011.06.22 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ladrial on 22/06/2011 18:04:53
Im joining this club as well cant play at all so thanks for that, cant upgrade my current card either as was vgp not pci or whatever, pretty ****ed of this was always a game that didn't need a new pc one of the reasons I have plaid it so long.
Just would have been nice to run in really crap graphics mode while I got this sorted, there were hints that this would be the case but NEVER a categoric "you wont be able to play" got to admit fairly pi**ed off!!!!
Going to put account on hold may never return....
(oh well as the poster above suggests I will have to look around for another grown up game and hand this over to the 12yr olds)
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